WAVEFAN98 Wrote:The Big 12 has already patented the name B14 and B16.

Do you have any proof of that? That would lead one to believe that they have at least discussed the possibilty of expanding to 14 or 16.

If the SEC expands Tulane will be in, you can put that in the bank. Memphis will be in as well.

Is it the same "sources" that told you that Notre Dame would be gone from the Big East by the end of the year?

It would be politically impossible for UT and Vandy to block another school from the state of Tennessee...it won't happen.

Really? If it was impossible Memphis would have been in by now.

Memphis will get their support both publically and behind the scenes.

LOL! :laugh:

The Big 12 has already patented the name B14 and B16. All this will emerge before 2010. The list I gave at the start of the thread is pretty close to what what will happen. Much of it is geography driven.

LOL! Did your psychic friends tell you this?

WAVEFAN98 Wrote:It would be politically impossible for UT and Vandy to block another school from the state of Tennessee...it won't happen.

It has already happened...twice.

"Memphis already averages over 40,000 per game in football, is in the top 10 IN THE COUNTRY in basketball attendance, and has a MUCH better basketball program than either USF or UCF. "


--No one is questoning Memphis's fan base....the only way you guys don't get in during the next round is if the BE decides to go the Army/Navy route because the league wants to say in the geographic footprint



Jackson

It has already happened...twice.

Come on Tiger, don't let facts get in the way of Wave's ramblings! lol! I wish his logic worked, if it did UC could have just applied for the Big Ten and forced Ohio State to let us in awhile ago. Sorry, things don't work that way. It does occasionally, but only in rare instances (like Baylor to the Big 12 and Virginia Tech to the ACC). And even then it's not a given. If it were TCU would have been in the Big 12 and Virginia would have been forced to petition for West Virginia to the ACC. None of those happened and will happen.

Cat, That ND would be gone by the end of the year was a guess on my part. They will be gone because of the decline in the appeal of NBE bowls. At some point the rose colored glasses have to come off. memphis is the perfect SEC addition and that is where they will end up at some point down the line. UT has never blocked Memphis from the SEC irrespective of what some Tennessee fans might say. In fact you will see Tennessee as one of the Memphis sponsors should the opportunity come up.

WAVEFAN98 Wrote:In fact you will see Tennessee as one of the Memphis sponsors should the opportunity come up.

No you wouldn't. Not unless something happened like happened in Virginia where the governor got involved. I just don't see that happening in Tennessee. Never.

Jackson, I normally agree with your posts but I dont like UCF on this one. Its not anything against their program, but I think adding UCF might water down USF's recruiting, which we all need for them to come on strong. I like ECU and Memphis as the next two members because I think they could actually swipe some of the other conference's recruits and make the Big East even better. Just a opinion....I could be wrong....lol.

Wavefan,
Since you obviously have some far reaching connections, I was wondering....
do you know where Hoffa is buried ? And since you know so much about Memphis, have you seen Elvis recently?
:laugh:
CJ

Jim, I find it interesting that posters on this board can engage in 'wild' speculation about splits, new members etc. That speculation is fine when it fits the program they would 'like to see' but otherwise it is not. Speculating that memphis will go to the sec is no more far fetched than that they will go to the Big East, you have no evidence either. Speculating that the ACC will expand to 14 is just as valid as speculating that the Big East or Big 12 will expand. Speculation is speculation, pure and simple.

WAVEFAN98 Wrote:Speculating that memphis will go to the sec is no more far fetched than that they will go to the Big East, you have no evidence either.

It is much more far fetched. For the following reasons.

1. The SEC is already at 12 football schools and they aren't expected to expand anytime soon.

2. The Big East has only 8 football schools and folks involved with the Big East have already publicly discussed the possibility of future expansion past 8.

3. The SEC already has the Memphis market covered. Memphis is in the heart of SEC territory and the SEC wouldn't gain anything by adding a member in Memphis.

4. The Big East could benefit by moving into another major market where they have no current presence.

5. The Big East just took three schools from a conference of which Memphis is a member, two of which (Louisville and Cincy) Memphis has been in the same conference with for decades.

CardinalJim Wrote:And since you know so much about Memphis, have you seen Elvis recently?

He's living in a cabin (with fake fur walls) in the woods in North Carolina! If you want to track him, follow the mass shiipments of bread, peanut butter, and bananas!

3601 Wrote:4. The Big East could benefit by moving into another major market where they have no current presence.

Or the BE could strengthen there presence and interest in the Northeast by adding teams that area is familiar with like Army and Navy.

Not saying Memphis isn't a fit athletic wise but geographic wise it just doesn't make any sense. Just like adding USF didn't make any sense but when you're trying to survive you do drastic things.

"Just like adding USF didn't make any sense but when you're trying to survive you do drastic things. "


--No one on the BE side is complaining about USF....the BE needed to develop another really solid football school and giving USF BCS access will do just that....take a look at USF's recruiting class from last yr....it was ranked about the same as West Virginia's and Pitt's....that is mighty impressive for a program that still has one more yr in CUSA


Jackson

Speculating that memphis will go to the sec is no more far fetched than that they will go to the Big East, you have no evidence either. Speculating that the ACC will expand to 14 is just as valid as speculating that the Big East or Big 12 will expand. Speculation is speculation, pure and simple.

You can't be this stupid. The Big East just said they were considering further expansion, the SEC, Big 12 and ACC have not mentioned expansion. Memphis has two allies in the Big East currently (UC, Louisville), they have no allies in the SEC, or at least powerful allies. Now you tell me how that is farfetched, them coming to the Big East?

Or the BE could strengthen there presence and interest in the Northeast by adding teams that area is familiar with like Army and Navy.

The Big East could still do that and add Memphis. Add Memphis and Navy and Army on a partial basis gives you 11 teams and 10 league games (Army and Navy splitting the schedule).

Not saying Memphis isn't a fit athletic wise but geographic wise it just doesn't make any sense. Just like adding USF didn't make any sense but when you're trying to survive you do drastic things.

Actually, geography could help Memphis this time around. The Big East is locking up markets all over the place, or at least attempting to. Maybe the Big East will decide they want to try and get a piece of the south and stick a foot in SEC/Tennessee area by adding Memphis and the Liberty Bowl.

WAVEFAN98 Wrote:Jim, I find it interesting that posters on this board can engage in 'wild' speculation about splits, new members etc. That speculation is fine when it fits the program they would 'like to see' but otherwise it is not. Speculating that memphis will go to the sec is no more far fetched than that they will go to the Big East, you have no evidence either. Speculating that the ACC will expand to 14 is just as valid as speculating that the Big East or Big 12 will expand. Speculation is speculation, pure and simple.

Speculation to promote discussion is one thing. Speculation to start a flame war on a BIG EAST board is something different. If a Louisville, Cincinnati, USF fan or fan from any other Big East school went to the CUSA board and started this type of thread they would be blasted by the USM and ECU idiots that monitor that board.
Simply take your opinion that Memphis will be joining the SEC over to the CUSA and discuss it there where it should be discussed.
Jim

Quote:Actually, geography could help Memphis this time around. The Big East is locking up markets all over the place, or at least attempting to. Maybe the Big East will decide they want to try and get a piece of the south and stick a foot in SEC/Tennessee area by adding Memphis and the Liberty Bowl.

Exactly...it would be very smart for the Big East to add us.

1) because memphis is a solid program

2) Because we are a natural fit with UL, UC.

3) we WOULD bring the Liberty Bowl.

4) Memphis is a great market that could be tapped.

5) i would love nothing more than to tell all my SEC loving buds to kiss my A$$!!!!

i just hope it happens soon...UofM...UL...UC are a package deal...and should be together.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

for the 10th and last time.........

Memphis and ECU WILL become the next two schools added to the Big East.

Thank You....

CardinalJim Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:The next round

Pitt
West Virginia
Syracuse
Uconn
Louisville
UC
USF
Rutgers
Memphis
UCF

-- a pretty solid league that could win national championships in football, mens bball, womens bball and baseball


                                        Jackson

Jackson,
I agree that would be a great league except for UCF. What would they bring to the Big East. They presently celebrate basketball victories over teams like Troy State and their football program doesn't even win the MAC.
I would replace the Knights with ECU for a stronger conference.
CJ

I agree Jim and ECU gives the Big East an additional TV market!