I don't care if they stay at 10 or add Tulsa. But some of u need to seriously ask yourself this question. Who out there, that is available for the BE to take, is better than Tulsa? No one. So it's either Tulsa or no one.

We will win the nBE in our first year.

(01-20-2013 05:40 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  We will win the nBE in our first year.

You'll probably be on NCAA probation your first year.

(01-20-2013 05:40 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  We will win the nBE in our first year.

Only if UC and UConn are gone....

(01-20-2013 05:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:40 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  We will win the nBE in our first year.

You'll probably be on NCAA probation your first year.

probably

i hope our next ad pisses all over his office in a blackout ambien rage

uconn sucks

we would crush cinncy. your little commuter school isnt going anywhere.

Oh please. Your little high school sized school is not even getting in unless UC and UCONN decide to add you. You forget who has all the votes right now.

we will dominate the nBE just like we dominated cusa 2.0

its not like the level of competition is going up with powerhouses like a tuberville coached cinncy team in the league

I'm OK with this. Two things though:

They have to stop calling themselves "TU"

Panicstriken is ******* annoying.

(01-20-2013 05:52 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  uconn sucks

we would crush cinncy. your little commuter school isnt going anywhere.

The worst part of having Tulsa join is this guy

(01-20-2013 05:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Oh please. Your little high school sized school is not even getting in unless UC and UCONN decide to add you. You forget who has all the votes right now.

You don't represent Cincy or UConn...you're just a fan...Tulsa will get the next invite should one be issued.

These comments are funny. Tulsa is a decent school, but no one has been able to justify why they would ADD VALUE to our TV deal.

University of Tulsa:
Students 4,352
Undergraduates 3,174
Postgraduates 1,178
Region Population 946,962

Let's compare that to a few random nBE members.

University of Houston:
Students 40,747
Undergraduates 31,367
Postgraduates 9,380
Region Population 6,086,538

UCF:
Students 59,767
Undergraduates 50,968
Postgraduates 8,522
Region Population 2,171,360

Tulane:
Students 13,359
Undergraduates 8,338
Postgraduates 5,021
Region Population 1,191,089

Tulsa is half the size of our smallest school and has a metro of 300,000 less than that school. Let's look at some schools we've mentioned as expansion schools:

UNCC:
Students 25,277
Undergraduates 20,283
Postgraduates 4,994
Region Population 1,795,472

UMass:
Students 68,315 (in system)
Amherst 21,370
Region Population 4,591,112


In no way am I saying Tulsa is a bad school, but I'm pointing out that they don't have the fan base, school size, or region that is as large as current schools and the potential schools. I just don't see the VALUE that they bring to the TV deal.

(01-20-2013 06:18 PM)Wavebacker Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:52 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  uconn sucks

we would crush cinncy. your little commuter school isnt going anywhere.

The worst part of having Tulsa join is this guy

Almost, there is another...

(01-20-2013 06:23 PM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  These comments are funny. Tulsa is a decent school, but no one has been able to justify why they would ADD VALUE to our TV deal.

University of Tulsa:
Students 4,352
Undergraduates 3,174
Postgraduates 1,178
Region Population 946,962

Let's compare that to a few random nBE members.

University of Houston:
Students 40,747
Undergraduates 31,367
Postgraduates 9,380
Region Population 6,086,538

UCF:
Students 59,767
Undergraduates 50,968
Postgraduates 8,522
Region Population 2,171,360

Tulane:
Students 13,359
Undergraduates 8,338
Postgraduates 5,021
Region Population 1,191,089

Tulsa is half the size of our smallest school and has a metro of 300,000 less than that school. Let's look at some schools we've mentioned as expansion schools:

UNCC:
Students 25,277
Undergraduates 20,283
Postgraduates 4,994
Region Population 1,795,472

UMass:
Students 68,315 (in system)
Amherst 21,370
Region Population 4,591,112


In no way am I saying Tulsa is a bad school, but I'm pointing out that they don't have the fan base, school size, or region that is as large as current schools and the potential schools. I just don't see the VALUE that they bring to the TV deal.

Let me point out one more school to compare against Tulsa:

Villanova University:
Students 10,482
Undergraduates 6,394
Postgraduates 3,200

Villanova is twice the size of Tulsa, and people on this board ripped the plan of them adding a football team because of their turnout would be low and they just didn't have the financial tools to take their sports to the level that most of our schools are able to do.

Yet again -- i'm not ripping Tulsa. I'm just pointing out the facts. And wondering where the value is and how are they going to benefit this league LONG TERM without the school size and region to support our needs as a conference.

(01-20-2013 06:28 PM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  Let me point out one more school to compare against Tulsa:

Villanova University:
Students 10,482
Undergraduates 6,394
Postgraduates 3,200

Villanova is twice the size of Tulsa, and people on this board ripped the plan of them adding a football team because of their turnout would be low and they just didn't have the financial tools to take their sports to the level that most of our schools are able to do.

Yet again -- i'm not ripping Tulsa. I'm just pointing out the facts. And wondering where the value is and how are they going to benefit this league LONG TERM without the school size and region to support our needs as a conference.

Tulsa more than held their own while competing against six other schools in the nBe, to me, adding them is more about competitive balance than anything.

(01-20-2013 06:28 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:18 PM)Wavebacker Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:52 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  uconn sucks

we would crush cinncy. your little commuter school isnt going anywhere.

The worst part of having Tulsa join is this guy

Almost, there is another...

Shortweeds?

(01-20-2013 06:28 PM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:23 PM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  These comments are funny. Tulsa is a decent school, but no one has been able to justify why they would ADD VALUE to our TV deal.

University of Tulsa:
Students 4,352
Undergraduates 3,174
Postgraduates 1,178
Region Population 946,962

Let's compare that to a few random nBE members.

University of Houston:
Students 40,747
Undergraduates 31,367
Postgraduates 9,380
Region Population 6,086,538

UCF:
Students 59,767
Undergraduates 50,968
Postgraduates 8,522
Region Population 2,171,360

Tulane:
Students 13,359
Undergraduates 8,338
Postgraduates 5,021
Region Population 1,191,089

Tulsa is half the size of our smallest school and has a metro of 300,000 less than that school. Let's look at some schools we've mentioned as expansion schools:

UNCC:
Students 25,277
Undergraduates 20,283
Postgraduates 4,994
Region Population 1,795,472

UMass:
Students 68,315 (in system)
Amherst 21,370
Region Population 4,591,112


In no way am I saying Tulsa is a bad school, but I'm pointing out that they don't have the fan base, school size, or region that is as large as current schools and the potential schools. I just don't see the VALUE that they bring to the TV deal.

Let me point out one more school to compare against Tulsa:

Villanova University:
Students 10,482
Undergraduates 6,394
Postgraduates 3,200

Villanova is twice the size of Tulsa, and people on this board ripped the plan of them adding a football team because of their turnout would be low and they just didn't have the financial tools to take their sports to the level that most of our schools are able to do.

Yet again -- i'm not ripping Tulsa. I'm just pointing out the facts. And wondering where the value is and how are they going to benefit this league LONG TERM without the school size and region to support our needs as a conference.

They've proven they have a sustainable football program...and a tradition rich hoops program.

(01-20-2013 06:32 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:28 PM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  Let me point out one more school to compare against Tulsa:

Villanova University:
Students 10,482
Undergraduates 6,394
Postgraduates 3,200

Villanova is twice the size of Tulsa, and people on this board ripped the plan of them adding a football team because of their turnout would be low and they just didn't have the financial tools to take their sports to the level that most of our schools are able to do.

Yet again -- i'm not ripping Tulsa. I'm just pointing out the facts. And wondering where the value is and how are they going to benefit this league LONG TERM without the school size and region to support our needs as a conference.

Tulsa more than held their own while competing against six other schools in the nBe, to me, adding them is more about competitive balance than anything.

And you expect those six schools in the nBE to stay at the same level? Because I expect all of us to follow the blueprint of UL and UC. And as we improve, what kind of competitive balance can a small school with no fan base in a small region provide us? They add NO VALUE over the long run to this conference.

(01-20-2013 06:35 PM)TigerLogic Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:28 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:18 PM)Wavebacker Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:52 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  uconn sucks

we would crush cinncy. your little commuter school isnt going anywhere.

The worst part of having Tulsa join is this guy

Almost, there is another...

Shortweeds?

Aye, his mania is borderline comedy though

I get it. You have a crush. This is not about play on the field or your school would not be getting in either. It's about heightened value. Tulsa is a pipsqueak in that regard. Try offer little.