(04-26-2013 12:21 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 04:06 AM)Dawg06 Wrote:  You wonder why the Sunbelt hates LaTech?

LaTech is...
44-33-6 vs. ULL (LaTech won 6 in a row)
30-13 vs. ULM (LaTech won 8 in a row)
25-12 vs. ArkSt (LaTech won 9 of last 10)
8-4 vs. New Mexico State (LaTech won 6 in a row)
6-5 vs. North Texas (LaTech won 6 of last 7)
6-2 vs. Idaho (LaTech won 5 of last 6)
3-1 vs. Middle Tennessee
2-1 vs. WKU
1-0 vs. Texas State
Never played FIU, FAU, Troy, USA, GaSt, GaSo, AppSt

LaTech has pretty much dominated all of them that we've played.

I doubt that the Sun Belt hates Tech. Some Belt posters may hate some Tech posters but that's a individual thing.

Mostly ULM, ULL, Troy, and Arky State fans that are mad that non one wants them.

(04-24-2013 05:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Most ECU wanted out of C-USA years ago, as far as Appy goes many favored them for the 3 FCS national titles vs zero history in football. We felt we should have gone to the BE in 2005

WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.

(04-24-2013 06:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  I started the thread in response to a Charlotte fan talking trash about SBC schools not having any value to CUSA. I really was interested in finding out why unc- Charlotte thought they were so much above everyone else, being a small school(commuter) with no football history. Thought I was missing some information. Didn't know app st and GaSo had a lot of dislike towards them.

Still didn't get my answer in all of that threads trash talk.

Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

(04-26-2013 12:48 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 05:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Most ECU wanted out of C-USA years ago, as far as Appy goes many favored them for the 3 FCS national titles vs zero history in football. We felt we should have gone to the BE in 2005

WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.

(04-24-2013 06:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  I started the thread in response to a Charlotte fan talking trash about SBC schools not having any value to CUSA. I really was interested in finding out why unc- Charlotte thought they were so much above everyone else, being a small school(commuter) with no football history. Thought I was missing some information. Didn't know app st and GaSo had a lot of dislike towards them.

Still didn't get my answer in all of that threads trash talk.

Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

Nobody has a clue as to how any of these programs will turn out. It's all potential right now. Around 2017 we can have this discussion again.

(04-26-2013 12:48 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 05:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Most ECU wanted out of C-USA years ago, as far as Appy goes many favored them for the 3 FCS national titles vs zero history in football. We felt we should have gone to the BE in 2005

WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.

(04-24-2013 06:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  I started the thread in response to a Charlotte fan talking trash about SBC schools not having any value to CUSA. I really was interested in finding out why unc- Charlotte thought they were so much above everyone else, being a small school(commuter) with no football history. Thought I was missing some information. Didn't know app st and GaSo had a lot of dislike towards them.

Still didn't get my answer in all of that threads trash talk.

Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

We will have to discuss this matter concerning Texas State after these teams finally field a team. It easy for some of them to talk crap when they have not suited up for a real game yet. Besides some of these teams have a cupcake schedule.

Potential has not always proved a team can compete. Let's see who proves it on the field not only this year but the following years. I have faith that Texas State will be better than advertised.

(04-26-2013 12:48 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 05:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Most ECU wanted out of C-USA years ago, as far as Appy goes many favored them for the 3 FCS national titles vs zero history in football. We felt we should have gone to the BE in 2005

WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.

(04-24-2013 06:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  I started the thread in response to a Charlotte fan talking trash about SBC schools not having any value to CUSA. I really was interested in finding out why unc- Charlotte thought they were so much above everyone else, being a small school(commuter) with no football history. Thought I was missing some information. Didn't know app st and GaSo had a lot of dislike towards them.

Still didn't get my answer in all of that threads trash talk.

Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

I don't know enough about odu or unc-Charlotte to say you won't be a good football program eventually. All I know is the cream puff schedule won't prepare you for a full fbs schedule. Utsa had an easy schedule the last 2 years and this year will be the first real fbs schedule and it most likely will be a reality check. From the three of you I would put my money on utsa having the most potential. To many reasons to list why I think they will be better.

I really didn't know about app st and GaSo not liking y'all. I don't know anything about east coast schools I've never heard of until now. I'm sure eastern schools could say the same about schools west of the Mississippi who aren't in the big conferences.

My only beef is with fans whose teams have no history(football) are talking down other schools who've at least played fcs. Right now it's pure smack talk. I know some will bring up other sports, but football is what matters most. If it didn't your schools wouldn't even be starting a program. Stadiums wouldn't be built, upgraded, or expanded.

(04-26-2013 01:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 12:48 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 05:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Most ECU wanted out of C-USA years ago, as far as Appy goes many favored them for the 3 FCS national titles vs zero history in football. We felt we should have gone to the BE in 2005

WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.

(04-24-2013 06:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  I started the thread in response to a Charlotte fan talking trash about SBC schools not having any value to CUSA. I really was interested in finding out why unc- Charlotte thought they were so much above everyone else, being a small school(commuter) with no football history. Thought I was missing some information. Didn't know app st and GaSo had a lot of dislike towards them.

Still didn't get my answer in all of that threads trash talk.

Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

I don't know enough about odu or unc-Charlotte to say you won't be a good football program eventually. All I know is the cream puff schedule won't prepare you for a full fbs schedule. Utsa had an easy schedule the last 2 years and this year will be the first real fbs schedule and it most likely will be a reality check. From the three of you I would put my money on utsa having the most potential. To many reasons to list why I think they will be better.

I really didn't know about app st and GaSo not liking y'all. I don't know anything about east coast schools I've never heard of until now. I'm sure eastern schools could say the same about schools west of the Mississippi who aren't in the big conferences.

My only beef is with fans whose teams have no history(football) are talking down other schools who've at least played fcs. Right now it's pure smack talk. I know some will bring up other sports, but football is what matters most. If it didn't your schools wouldn't even be starting a program. Stadiums wouldn't be built, upgraded, or expanded.

I'd argue that ODU is already a better program than TX State.

What matters most depends on the school. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at everything except football (or at everything including football), they'll say football matters the most. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at football but excels at basketball, they're going to say basketball.

You think KU, UK, Cuse, or UNC fans are going to say football is more important? Hell no.

They've built themselves into some of the most recognizable names in college sports not because of football, but because every year they're a threat to win a national championship in basketball.

At the level of SBC or CUSA, basketball is more likely to actually turn a profit than football. The problem is, a lot of people don't really consider a school a real university unless they have a football program, which is absurd.

Who cares?

(04-26-2013 01:54 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 01:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 12:48 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 05:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Most ECU wanted out of C-USA years ago, as far as Appy goes many favored them for the 3 FCS national titles vs zero history in football. We felt we should have gone to the BE in 2005

WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.

(04-24-2013 06:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  I started the thread in response to a Charlotte fan talking trash about SBC schools not having any value to CUSA. I really was interested in finding out why unc- Charlotte thought they were so much above everyone else, being a small school(commuter) with no football history. Thought I was missing some information. Didn't know app st and GaSo had a lot of dislike towards them.

Still didn't get my answer in all of that threads trash talk.

Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

I don't know enough about odu or unc-Charlotte to say you won't be a good football program eventually. All I know is the cream puff schedule won't prepare you for a full fbs schedule. Utsa had an easy schedule the last 2 years and this year will be the first real fbs schedule and it most likely will be a reality check. From the three of you I would put my money on utsa having the most potential. To many reasons to list why I think they will be better.

I really didn't know about app st and GaSo not liking y'all. I don't know anything about east coast schools I've never heard of until now. I'm sure eastern schools could say the same about schools west of the Mississippi who aren't in the big conferences.

My only beef is with fans whose teams have no history(football) are talking down other schools who've at least played fcs. Right now it's pure smack talk. I know some will bring up other sports, but football is what matters most. If it didn't your schools wouldn't even be starting a program. Stadiums wouldn't be built, upgraded, or expanded.

I'd argue that ODU is already a better program than TX State.

What matters most depends on the school. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at everything except football (or at everything including football), they'll say football matters the most. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at football but excels at basketball, they're going to say basketball.

You think KU, UK, Cuse, or UNC fans are going to say football is more important? Hell no.

They've built themselves into some of the most recognizable names in college sports not because of football, but because every year they're a threat to win a national championship in basketball.

At the level of SBC or CUSA, basketball is more likely to actually turn a profit than football. The problem is, a lot of people don't really consider a school a real university unless they have a football program, which is absurd.

ODU better-Doubtful

The WAC had three football teams in the top 25 of FBS at one time or another last season. ODU did not have anyone in FCS on their schedule at that level. period.

(04-26-2013 02:09 PM)Cat79 Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 01:54 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 01:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 12:48 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 05:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Most ECU wanted out of C-USA years ago, as far as Appy goes many favored them for the 3 FCS national titles vs zero history in football. We felt we should have gone to the BE in 2005

WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.

(04-24-2013 06:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  I started the thread in response to a Charlotte fan talking trash about SBC schools not having any value to CUSA. I really was interested in finding out why unc- Charlotte thought they were so much above everyone else, being a small school(commuter) with no football history. Thought I was missing some information. Didn't know app st and GaSo had a lot of dislike towards them.

Still didn't get my answer in all of that threads trash talk.

Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

I don't know enough about odu or unc-Charlotte to say you won't be a good football program eventually. All I know is the cream puff schedule won't prepare you for a full fbs schedule. Utsa had an easy schedule the last 2 years and this year will be the first real fbs schedule and it most likely will be a reality check. From the three of you I would put my money on utsa having the most potential. To many reasons to list why I think they will be better.

I really didn't know about app st and GaSo not liking y'all. I don't know anything about east coast schools I've never heard of until now. I'm sure eastern schools could say the same about schools west of the Mississippi who aren't in the big conferences.

My only beef is with fans whose teams have no history(football) are talking down other schools who've at least played fcs. Right now it's pure smack talk. I know some will bring up other sports, but football is what matters most. If it didn't your schools wouldn't even be starting a program. Stadiums wouldn't be built, upgraded, or expanded.

I'd argue that ODU is already a better program than TX State.

What matters most depends on the school. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at everything except football (or at everything including football), they'll say football matters the most. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at football but excels at basketball, they're going to say basketball.

You think KU, UK, Cuse, or UNC fans are going to say football is more important? Hell no.

They've built themselves into some of the most recognizable names in college sports not because of football, but because every year they're a threat to win a national championship in basketball.

At the level of SBC or CUSA, basketball is more likely to actually turn a profit than football. The problem is, a lot of people don't really consider a school a real university unless they have a football program, which is absurd.

ODU better-Doubtful

The WAC had three football teams in the top 25 of FBS at one time or another last season. ODU did not have anyone in FCS on their schedule at that level. period.

I'm not 100% sure if you're talking about Top 25 FCS or Top 25 FBS teams on ODU's schedule. If it's FBS...you're right. We played a full FCS schedule last year. If it's FCS...you're wrong. We won the CAA in our 2nd year of league competition, and the CAA alone had about 5 teams in the Top 25 of FCS.

I realize that there's a world of difference between FBS and FCS, but we've been told since Day 1 that it would take ODU years...if not decades...to become competitive in FB. It took us 3 years.

We'll see how far we've come (and how far we have to go) next year after playing a mixed schedule of FBS/FCS teams, including ECU, Maryland, Pitt and UNC. The homer in me says we'll do well. The realist in me is...well, a realist...and hopes we're competitive. In any event, don't discount us so easily. We're not just going through the motions at ODU.

Quote:I'd argue that ODU is already a better program than TX State.

What matters most depends on the school. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at everything except football (or at everything including football), they'll say football matters the most. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at football but excels at basketball, they're going to say basketball.

You think KU, UK, Cuse, or UNC fans are going to say football is more important? Hell no.

They've built themselves into some of the most recognizable names in college sports not because of football, but because every year they're a threat to win a national championship in basketball.

At the level of SBC or CUSA, basketball is more likely to actually turn a profit than football. The problem is, a lot of people don't really consider a school a real university unless they have a football program, which is absurd.

I guess for odu that may be true.

I found this on wiki:"The school's best-known sports team is the Lady Monarchs basketball team, which has won three national championships in 1979 (AIAW), 1980 (AIAW) and 1985 (NCAA)."

Those are school's who've established themselves on basketball. None of CUSA/SBC schools are on that level for basketball. These two conferences have other sports, but the primary fan following is football. I bet over 90% of the threads are related to football or evolve into a football thread.

Tell me what sport has the most seats in any of the schools here and the largest following... Tv deals may include other sports, but for CUSA/SBC their just an add on. Football is king in college sports overall. It is what it is. If you're just looking at dollars then yeah, basketball does have a lot more games.

As far as odu being a better program than TXST. I'll give you basketball without looking because of how bad we are. Football, well your talking FCS schedule vs. FBS schedule. No real good comparison. Baseball/softball we're always good at except this year and I'm not going to waste any more time comparing our programs since we don't play each other.

(04-26-2013 02:17 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 02:09 PM)Cat79 Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 01:54 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 01:39 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 12:48 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, ECU didn't make the cut in 2005, and then Blew the BE up when invited. ECU will be just like Memphis and UNLV out west. You will always be on the outside looking in, the red headed step child.


Still the fact is most Texas State fans thought they should have been invited to CUSA before UTSA, Charlotte and ODU. When all 3 have a ton more potential than Texas State.

Thats BS you had seen Appy and GA Southern fans had already dismissed Charlotte before. Its not that hard to find there are a few Appy fans find a way to do it in almost every post.

I don't know enough about odu or unc-Charlotte to say you won't be a good football program eventually. All I know is the cream puff schedule won't prepare you for a full fbs schedule. Utsa had an easy schedule the last 2 years and this year will be the first real fbs schedule and it most likely will be a reality check. From the three of you I would put my money on utsa having the most potential. To many reasons to list why I think they will be better.

I really didn't know about app st and GaSo not liking y'all. I don't know anything about east coast schools I've never heard of until now. I'm sure eastern schools could say the same about schools west of the Mississippi who aren't in the big conferences.

My only beef is with fans whose teams have no history(football) are talking down other schools who've at least played fcs. Right now it's pure smack talk. I know some will bring up other sports, but football is what matters most. If it didn't your schools wouldn't even be starting a program. Stadiums wouldn't be built, upgraded, or expanded.

I'd argue that ODU is already a better program than TX State.

What matters most depends on the school. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at everything except football (or at everything including football), they'll say football matters the most. If you ask a fan of a school that sucks at football but excels at basketball, they're going to say basketball.

You think KU, UK, Cuse, or UNC fans are going to say football is more important? Hell no.

They've built themselves into some of the most recognizable names in college sports not because of football, but because every year they're a threat to win a national championship in basketball.

At the level of SBC or CUSA, basketball is more likely to actually turn a profit than football. The problem is, a lot of people don't really consider a school a real university unless they have a football program, which is absurd.

ODU better-Doubtful

The WAC had three football teams in the top 25 of FBS at one time or another last season. ODU did not have anyone in FCS on their schedule at that level. period.

I'm not 100% sure if you're talking about Top 25 FCS or Top 25 FBS teams on ODU's schedule. If it's FBS...you're right. We played a full FCS schedule last year. If it's FCS...you're wrong. We won the CAA in our 2nd year of league competition, and the CAA alone had about 5 teams in the Top 25 of FCS.

I realize that there's a world of difference between FBS and FCS, but we've been told since Day 1 that it would take ODU years...if not decades...to become competitive in FB. It took us 3 years.

We'll see how far we've come (and how far we have to go) next year after playing a mixed schedule of FBS/FCS teams, including ECU, Maryland, Pitt and UNC. The homer in me says we'll do well. The realist in me is...well, a realist...and hopes we're competitive. In any event, don't discount us so easily. We're not just going through the motions at ODU.

Texas State had 10 FBS teams and 2 FCS (SFA and UTSA) on our 2012 schedule. We had a record of 4-8. We had wins over SFA, Idaho, New Mexico State and and surprising win in our first road game over CUSA University of Houston. Louisiana Tech, Utah State and San Jose State had been in the top 25 of FBS at one time or another in 2012. We had close games with Louisiana Tech, Nevada and San Jose State (two were top 25 in FBS at the time we played them).

The UTSA game was a rivalry game in San Antonio that we lost by 7. UTSA had earned the win but we still were in position in the 4th quarter to tie the game and send it to overtime but failed to make that happen.
We had losses to Navy, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas Tech. We were in most games except for New Mexico, Texas Tech and Utah State. Depth is the bigger issue when you play a full FBS schedule. We were down to 2nd and in some cases 3rd string players halfway thru the season in the O line and D line in particular. Not excuses just facts

Some of you are going to have to learn how to use the quote feature right. All you got to do is hit the Reply Button ^^^^ in the lower right of the post you want to quote. It does all the work for you.

(04-26-2013 04:46 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Some of you are going to have to learn how to use the quote feature right. All you got to do is hit the Reply Button ^^^^ in the lower right of the post you want to quote. It does all the work for you.

Why didn't you quote the people you were addressing?

(04-26-2013 05:29 PM)Dorrej Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 04:46 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Some of you are going to have to learn how to use the quote feature right. All you got to do is hit the Reply Button ^^^^ in the lower right of the post you want to quote. It does all the work for you.

Why didn't you quote the people you were addressing?

Better?