I'd have responded sooner, but I had to take a shower after reading that swill. "Those damn Catholics can't be trusted"? Really? In 2013 we're still talking like this?

You won't catch me defending the SEC very often, but this comment was also especially reprehensible:

Quote:You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing

The only reason most people have forgotten about the Ohio State (B1G) football scandal is the gargantuan size of the Penn State (B1G) sex abuse scandal.

I'm glad Louisville's now important enough to be included in a tantrum like this one.

Rick Pitino's reaction:


http://www.whas.com/player/?station=WHAS...d=23279434

(05-30-2013 04:16 PM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 04:08 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 02:56 PM)krux Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

I ******* hate this guy. lol Seriously, have you ever posted anything nice about anyone in the ACC, ever? Why are you even here?

Pobrecito.

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I don't see why UL or UK have any reason to be upset. He didn't insult either school. Neither school's academics are Big Ten-caliber. That's just the truth. However, ND and Catholics in general have a right to be upset.

A University President should have more class than this than to publicly ridicule schools. What did Louisville do to piss in his Wheaties? Nothing. This guy is nothing but a clown.

Clown or not, appropriate for a university president to say or not, he did not say anything that was untrue about UL or UK.

(05-30-2013 08:06 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 04:16 PM)L1C4 Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 04:08 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 02:56 PM)krux Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

I ******* hate this guy. lol Seriously, have you ever posted anything nice about anyone in the ACC, ever? Why are you even here?

Pobrecito.

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I don't see why UL or UK have any reason to be upset. He didn't insult either school. Neither school's academics are Big Ten-caliber. That's just the truth. However, ND and Catholics in general have a right to be upset.

A University President should have more class than this than to publicly ridicule schools. What did Louisville do to piss in his Wheaties? Nothing. This guy is nothing but a clown.

Clown or not, appropriate for a university president to say or not, he did not say anything that was untrue about UL or UK.

Kinda like it's inappropriate for us to say we hate you but it's still true?

(05-30-2013 03:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

The CUSA Board is thatta way-----^

Take your sh!tshow there.

Going by that logic, TerryD, mattsarz (or whatever his name is) etc shouldn't be here either. They didn't go to ND or Syracuse. There are probably many more like them too. I was probably pulling for FSU when a lot of you were in Pampers.

(05-30-2013 04:31 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  .......It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

There is a recording, so intent can be gauged. If the derogatory Catholic comments were a play to the audience, well, that is more a commentary on the audience than the speaker. If you think that the majority of the ACC wanted UConn then you are ignorant of the facts.

And the recording had laughter and then the comment on the Catholics built into it. He was clearly just joking around like many of us do. The difference is that a President of a college should know that nothing is off the record. But most of you have said worse while joking around with people at a gathering as well too. It isn't bigotry. It's just ESPN stirring it up with OSU yet again . They wouldn't bring up a comment like this from fricken December unless it was OSU.

(05-30-2013 08:29 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 03:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

The CUSA Board is thatta way-----^

Take your sh!tshow there.

Going by that logic, TerryD, mattsarz (or whatever his name is) etc shouldn't be here either. They didn't go to ND or Syracuse. There are probably many more like them too. I was probably pulling for FSU when a lot of you were in Pampers.

Difference is they're civil and add to discussion. Unlike, you and Marge.

(05-30-2013 08:33 PM)krux Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 08:29 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 03:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

The CUSA Board is thatta way-----^

Take your sh!tshow there.

Going by that logic, TerryD, mattsarz (or whatever his name is) etc shouldn't be here either. They didn't go to ND or Syracuse. There are probably many more like them too. I was probably pulling for FSU when a lot of you were in Pampers.

Difference is they're civil and add to discussion. Unlike, you and Marge.

Difference is they don't ever slam the ACC and a lot of you guys just like people that slobber over the conference constantly. If people bring up points against it, you don't like.

Well guess what? Tough. You don't like it then ignore it. I have had people say stuff against me personally a lot more than I have said stuff about you or anyone else personally. Different viewpoints are part of life and if you can't accept them then you shouldn't be posting on a public forum.

We get smashed on all the other boards. This is the one place we all come to share in enthusiasm. If you don't like it, go post on the AAC board or the Conference Realignment board. You can talk trash about the ACC for days there. To act surprised that we don't want **** started in our safe haven is mind blowing.

(05-30-2013 08:29 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 03:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

The CUSA Board is thatta way-----^

Take your sh!tshow there.

Going by that logic, TerryD, mattsarz (or whatever his name is) etc shouldn't be here either. They didn't go to ND or Syracuse. There are probably many more like them too. I was probably pulling for FSU when a lot of you were in Pampers.

TerryD did attend ND and is plainly a fan of ND. He makes no bones about it.

Mattsarz generally does not get into squabbles and usually limits his postings to provide television information and a little cheering of his alma mater, Syracuse.

I agree that the remark was an attempt at humor, but attempts are not always humorous. He may have gotten some laughs as his audience in front of him understand the B1G/ND history. However, people on Gee's position are ALWAYS speaking to much larger audiences than the group in front of them. He was wrong and needs to make things right.

For the record, I understand the "joke". The former Michigan AD way back when blocked ND from joining the Big Ten because they were Catholic and he was a die hard protestant.

The irony here is that the B1G footprint has some very large Catholic populations.

If you can't handle the truth on Louisville then tough. I wanted them and WVU in the conference. WVU was turned down. Louisville got in largely because FSU/Clemson pushed for them to get in. If you think there aren't academic snob schools in this conference that wanted a school like UConn more, you have your head in the sand. Like I said, the ACC is just as snobby as the Big 10. A few of the schools probably top any Big 10 school in that category.

But my main point as I said before is that ESPN made this a huge story because they hate OSU. Had this been another school, they wouldn't have given it the time of day. Anyone watching how they covered the OSU scandal compared to Miami (which was a million times worse) can see the bias in their reporting.

(05-30-2013 08:44 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 08:29 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 03:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

The CUSA Board is thatta way-----^

Take your sh!tshow there.

Going by that logic, TerryD, mattsarz (or whatever his name is) etc shouldn't be here either. They didn't go to ND or Syracuse. There are probably many more like them too. I was probably pulling for FSU when a lot of you were in Pampers.

TerryD did attend ND and is plainly a fan of ND. He makes no bones about it.

Mattsarz generally does not get into squabbles and usually limits his postings to provide television information and a little cheering of his alma mater, Syracuse.

I agree that the remark was an attempt at humor, but attempts are not always humorous. He may have gotten some laughs as his audience in front of him understand the B1G/ND history. However, people on Gee's position are ALWAYS speaking to much larger audiences than the group in front of them. He was wrong and needs to make things right.

For the record, I understand the "joke". The former Michigan AD way back when blocked ND from joining the Big Ten because they were Catholic and he was a die hard protestant.

The irony here is that the B1G footprint has some very large Catholic populations.

I thought Matt just said he went to Canisius? And I thought Terry didn't go to ND. Regardless if they did or not, there are plenty of fans that never went to the school. And I am sick of dumb asses on here bringing that up all the time when I probably have cheered for FSU when you guys were infants.

Also I am Catholic and just laughed it off. The liberal media needs to change their tampons and stop being PC all the time.

This could well be a double slap at Louisville. The City of Louisville has the oldest inland archdiocese in the country. It is 2nd only in size to the Archdiocese of Boston. I would venture to guess that a good portion of UofL's fan base is catholic.

As for Gee's comments, consider the source. The guy is an embarrassment to his profession and his university. Given time he will say something that will get him fired.
CJ

Well, I guess we don't have to worry about ND jumping to the B1G....

I think the point everyone seems to be missing is this; If you are the President of a prestigious institution of higher education you are expected to make public comments above what is generally heard on AM Sports Talk Radio. His attempt at humor missed the target. If this were a bowling tournament banquet then he would get a pass. And yes I am Catholic; yet while not offended by his comments I just ask why make them. Louisville fans should see if Jurich can get Ohio State on a home and home for football!!!

(05-30-2013 09:55 PM)texasorange Wrote:  I think the point everyone seems to be missing is this; If you are the President of a prestigious institution of higher education you are expected to make public comments above what is generally heard on AM Sports Talk Radio. His attempt at humor missed the target. If this were a bowling tournament banquet then he would get a pass. And yes I am Catholic; yet while not offended by his comments I just ask why make them. Louisville fans should see if Jurich can get Ohio State on a home and home for football!!!

There's only one way this can end right. Louisville must overcome a weak SOS by praying for a high early rankings and losses ahead of them. Ohio State must go undefeated. Louisville must win the last ever BCS National Championship and carry it into the ACC. Ohio State must feel our wrath. Vengeance...must...be ours.

(05-30-2013 08:47 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 08:44 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 08:29 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 03:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 01:01 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Keep in my mind that ESPN hates Ohio State. They are the main team from the Big 10 now and the Big 10 is probably leaving for Fox. Just look at people like Mark May who hates on them constantly. Also look at the Miami scandal which was a million times worse than OSU. THey talked about OSU every day for months. Barely even mentioned Miami after the first week. ESPN even made up stories about free cars at OSU. When that was proven false, they did not post a retraction (of course).

It was probably a joke at a convention and they are twisting it to be malicious. It isn't a big deal.

As for the Louisville/UK stuff, he is just speaking the truth. The ACC probably felt the same way before recently. Hate to break it Louisville fans but you are lucky that the realignment stuff and FSU/Clemson timing happened now. Because the majority of the ACC probably wanted UConn. Those 2 schools put pressure on the ACC to take Louisville and they had some leverage to leave. If you think the ACC was fully accepting of Louisville all along, well you are smoking some good stuff.

The CUSA Board is thatta way-----^

Take your sh!tshow there.

Going by that logic, TerryD, mattsarz (or whatever his name is) etc shouldn't be here either. They didn't go to ND or Syracuse. There are probably many more like them too. I was probably pulling for FSU when a lot of you were in Pampers.

TerryD did attend ND and is plainly a fan of ND. He makes no bones about it.

Mattsarz generally does not get into squabbles and usually limits his postings to provide television information and a little cheering of his alma mater, Syracuse.

I agree that the remark was an attempt at humor, but attempts are not always humorous. He may have gotten some laughs as his audience in front of him understand the B1G/ND history. However, people on Gee's position are ALWAYS speaking to much larger audiences than the group in front of them. He was wrong and needs to make things right.

For the record, I understand the "joke". The former Michigan AD way back when blocked ND from joining the Big Ten because they were Catholic and he was a die hard protestant.

The irony here is that the B1G footprint has some very large Catholic populations.

I thought Matt just said he went to Canisius? And I thought Terry didn't go to ND. Regardless if they did or not, there are plenty of fans that never went to the school. And I am sick of dumb asses on here bringing that up all the time when I probably have cheered for FSU when you guys were infants.

Also I am Catholic and just laughed it off. The liberal media needs to change their tampons and stop being PC all the time.

I am just a fan, not an alumnus. Ragu is correct.

I think that Gee is an ass. But, I found his comments more amusingly stupid than offensive. (I am Catholic, too).

I am not being too PC. Actually, I think the opposite. I think anti-Catholic bashing is probably one of the most accepted group bashing around.

I think if Gee mentioned some other religion or group the outcry would be much higher. I think if Father Jenkins had said something similar about Protestants the outcry would be higher as well.

But, no matter what, presidents of universities are not supposed to be this stupid.

I don't mind criticism of the ACC...but as Krux said this is a safe haven and a few FSU posters are constantly knocking down the ACC and were beating the drums to bolt the league.

BTW, I'm not a Cuse alumnus but most of my family is. My first Cuse game involved Larry Csonka...I've been attending games back to Archbold Stadium.

It's not just the Wvu partisans who want to pull the ACC apart, the B10 still has a desperate, whinging urge to get into the south-east, and as they see it their only avenue is the ACC. People associated w/ that conference continue to hint about expansion, though not sure where they are going to go at this juncture.

As noted, this is butthurt @ ND, ACC & SEC (for exposing their football weakness). Pretty funny stuff, really...

"The top goal of Big Ten presidents is to 'make certain that we have institutions of like-minded integrity' Gee said, 'so you won't see us adding the University of Louisville'".

Interesting quote coming from a man who was once president of West Virginia University. I wonder what Gee really thinks of the fine folks in Morgantown?