OdinFrigg
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(06-06-2020 05:00 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: ECU is about to be back to the NC football school. Watch out. Taking on SC the next two years home and away. SC has always schedule is well, when Clemson won’t give us the light of day.
The motives differ.
Clemson plays NC State and Wake Forest in the ACC Atlantic Divion each season. Duke and UNC in the Coastal appear on Clemson's fb schedule as rotation dictates. GT is Clemson's permanent cross-division rival. There isn't a need to add an ooc FCS school from NC to Clemson's schedule. The game with SC is yearly. There is another short series that has been scheduled with nearby Georgia.
South Carolina doesn't have any yearly game with one particular NC school. When Spurrier was coach, the decision was to play at least one school from NC yearly. Recruiting, media coverage in NC, interest, proximity, and lower travel costs, are the motivations to do so.. SC hasn't played Wake since leaving the ACC, and a game with Duke hasn't been played in many years. Games with UNC, NCSU, ECU, and Appalachian State are scheduled by mini-series or as a single game agreement to play in Charlotte.
Since SC left the ACC, playing ECU has been fairly frequent, but not yearly. ECU has been a good opponent for USC through the years. ECU's nice upgrades in facilities certainly makes them more attractive as a host.
One can understand ECU's desire to schedule a substantive amount of power schools from the greater mid-Atlantic area. The AAC being so spread-out, makes choice regional games even more important.
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CoastalJuan
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(06-07-2020 02:19 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote: (06-06-2020 05:00 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: ECU is about to be back to the NC football school. Watch out. Taking on SC the next two years home and away. SC has always schedule is well, when Clemson won’t give us the light of day.
The motives differ.
Clemson plays NC State and Wake Forest in the ACC Atlantic Divion each season. Duke and UNC in the Coastal appear on Clemson's fb schedule as rotation dictates. GT is Clemson's permanent cross-division rival. There isn't a need to add an ooc FCS school from NC to Clemson's schedule. The game with SC is yearly. There is another short series that has been scheduled with nearby Georgia.
South Carolina doesn't have any yearly game with one particular NC school. When Spurrier was coach, the decision was to play at least one school from NC yearly. Recruiting, media coverage in NC, interest, proximity, and lower travel costs, are the motivations to do so.. SC hasn't played Wake since leaving the ACC, and a game with Duke hasn't been played in many years. Games with UNC, NCSU, ECU, and Appalachian State are scheduled by mini-series or as a single game agreement to play in Charlotte.
Since SC left the ACC, playing ECU has been fairly frequent, but not yearly. ECU has been a good opponent for USC through the years. ECU's nice upgrades in facilities certainly makes them more attractive as a host.
One can understand ECU's desire to schedule a substantive amount of power schools from the greater mid-Atlantic area. The AAC being so spread-out, makes choice regional games even more important.
Clemson usually plays their FCS game against another SC school, so I agree that they wouldn't have a need to schedule any of the NC FCS schools. From an FBS standpoint, you're right they they play enough conference games in NC to have to play ECU OOC.
I do, however, wish that we could renew the series with SC to continue after our 2021 game. Would also like to get Kentucky or Georgia on the schedule, since they are two of the SEC states that we don't travel to in conference.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(06-11-2020 10:03 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: (06-07-2020 02:19 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote: (06-06-2020 05:00 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: ECU is about to be back to the NC football school. Watch out. Taking on SC the next two years home and away. SC has always schedule is well, when Clemson won’t give us the light of day.
The motives differ.
Clemson plays NC State and Wake Forest in the ACC Atlantic Divion each season. Duke and UNC in the Coastal appear on Clemson's fb schedule as rotation dictates. GT is Clemson's permanent cross-division rival. There isn't a need to add an ooc FCS school from NC to Clemson's schedule. The game with SC is yearly. There is another short series that has been scheduled with nearby Georgia.
South Carolina doesn't have any yearly game with one particular NC school. When Spurrier was coach, the decision was to play at least one school from NC yearly. Recruiting, media coverage in NC, interest, proximity, and lower travel costs, are the motivations to do so.. SC hasn't played Wake since leaving the ACC, and a game with Duke hasn't been played in many years. Games with UNC, NCSU, ECU, and Appalachian State are scheduled by mini-series or as a single game agreement to play in Charlotte.
Since SC left the ACC, playing ECU has been fairly frequent, but not yearly. ECU has been a good opponent for USC through the years. ECU's nice upgrades in facilities certainly makes them more attractive as a host.
One can understand ECU's desire to schedule a substantive amount of power schools from the greater mid-Atlantic area. The AAC being so spread-out, makes choice regional games even more important.
Clemson usually plays their FCS game against another SC school, so I agree that they wouldn't have a need to schedule any of the NC FCS schools. From an FBS standpoint, you're right they they play enough conference games in NC to have to play ECU OOC.
I do, however, wish that we could renew the series with SC to continue after our 2021 game. Would also like to get Kentucky or Georgia on the schedule, since they are two of the SEC states that we don't travel to in conference.
ECU has been a pretty frequent opponent for us over the years. I'd be willing to bet some decent money another contract gets signed at some point. I know the school has been trying to find a second annual P5 out of conference game, but that still leaves room for one game each year with a G5 school.
Just looking at some future schedules, if I was a betting man I'd think we'd try to pick it up again in 2026 or 2028
(This post was last modified: 06-23-2020 08:19 AM by Gamecock.)
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CoastalJuan
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(06-23-2020 08:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote: (06-11-2020 10:03 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: (06-07-2020 02:19 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote: (06-06-2020 05:00 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: ECU is about to be back to the NC football school. Watch out. Taking on SC the next two years home and away. SC has always schedule is well, when Clemson won’t give us the light of day.
The motives differ.
Clemson plays NC State and Wake Forest in the ACC Atlantic Divion each season. Duke and UNC in the Coastal appear on Clemson's fb schedule as rotation dictates. GT is Clemson's permanent cross-division rival. There isn't a need to add an ooc FCS school from NC to Clemson's schedule. The game with SC is yearly. There is another short series that has been scheduled with nearby Georgia.
South Carolina doesn't have any yearly game with one particular NC school. When Spurrier was coach, the decision was to play at least one school from NC yearly. Recruiting, media coverage in NC, interest, proximity, and lower travel costs, are the motivations to do so.. SC hasn't played Wake since leaving the ACC, and a game with Duke hasn't been played in many years. Games with UNC, NCSU, ECU, and Appalachian State are scheduled by mini-series or as a single game agreement to play in Charlotte.
Since SC left the ACC, playing ECU has been fairly frequent, but not yearly. ECU has been a good opponent for USC through the years. ECU's nice upgrades in facilities certainly makes them more attractive as a host.
One can understand ECU's desire to schedule a substantive amount of power schools from the greater mid-Atlantic area. The AAC being so spread-out, makes choice regional games even more important.
Clemson usually plays their FCS game against another SC school, so I agree that they wouldn't have a need to schedule any of the NC FCS schools. From an FBS standpoint, you're right they they play enough conference games in NC to have to play ECU OOC.
I do, however, wish that we could renew the series with SC to continue after our 2021 game. Would also like to get Kentucky or Georgia on the schedule, since they are two of the SEC states that we don't travel to in conference.
ECU has been a pretty frequent opponent for us over the years. I'd be willing to bet some decent money another contract gets signed at some point. I know the school has been trying to find a second annual P5 out of conference game, but that still leaves room for one game each year with a G5 school.
Just looking at some future schedules, if I was a betting man I'd think we'd try to pick it up again in 2026 or 2028
You tailgating in Greenville this year?
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NoQuarterBrigade
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RE: ECU and the SEC
Have we been invited yet?
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08-11-2021 12:28 AM |
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Gamecock
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(02-15-2021 09:01 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote: (06-23-2020 08:16 AM)Gamecock Wrote: (06-11-2020 10:03 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: (06-07-2020 02:19 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote: (06-06-2020 05:00 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: ECU is about to be back to the NC football school. Watch out. Taking on SC the next two years home and away. SC has always schedule is well, when Clemson won’t give us the light of day.
The motives differ.
Clemson plays NC State and Wake Forest in the ACC Atlantic Divion each season. Duke and UNC in the Coastal appear on Clemson's fb schedule as rotation dictates. GT is Clemson's permanent cross-division rival. There isn't a need to add an ooc FCS school from NC to Clemson's schedule. The game with SC is yearly. There is another short series that has been scheduled with nearby Georgia.
South Carolina doesn't have any yearly game with one particular NC school. When Spurrier was coach, the decision was to play at least one school from NC yearly. Recruiting, media coverage in NC, interest, proximity, and lower travel costs, are the motivations to do so.. SC hasn't played Wake since leaving the ACC, and a game with Duke hasn't been played in many years. Games with UNC, NCSU, ECU, and Appalachian State are scheduled by mini-series or as a single game agreement to play in Charlotte.
Since SC left the ACC, playing ECU has been fairly frequent, but not yearly. ECU has been a good opponent for USC through the years. ECU's nice upgrades in facilities certainly makes them more attractive as a host.
One can understand ECU's desire to schedule a substantive amount of power schools from the greater mid-Atlantic area. The AAC being so spread-out, makes choice regional games even more important.
Clemson usually plays their FCS game against another SC school, so I agree that they wouldn't have a need to schedule any of the NC FCS schools. From an FBS standpoint, you're right they they play enough conference games in NC to have to play ECU OOC.
I do, however, wish that we could renew the series with SC to continue after our 2021 game. Would also like to get Kentucky or Georgia on the schedule, since they are two of the SEC states that we don't travel to in conference.
ECU has been a pretty frequent opponent for us over the years. I'd be willing to bet some decent money another contract gets signed at some point. I know the school has been trying to find a second annual P5 out of conference game, but that still leaves room for one game each year with a G5 school.
Just looking at some future schedules, if I was a betting man I'd think we'd try to pick it up again in 2026 or 2028
You tailgating in Greenville this year?
Sorry, just seeing this about 7 months late. But yes, headed up next Friday. Should be a great time.
Any recommendations on places to tailgate, eat, etc?
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HeartOfDixie
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RE: ECU and the SEC
I quit posting a couple of years ago. I'm back now.
ECU still has no chance. The more things stay the same the more things stay the same.
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09-01-2021 06:03 PM |
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(09-01-2021 06:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I quit posting a couple of years ago. I'm back now.
ECU still has no chance. The more things stay the same the more things stay the same.
ECU & WVU will make 18.
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10-08-2021 02:23 PM |
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AubTiger16
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(10-08-2021 02:23 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (09-01-2021 06:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I quit posting a couple of years ago. I'm back now.
ECU still has no chance. The more things stay the same the more things stay the same.
ECU & WVU will make 18.
Why WVU?
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10-09-2021 01:07 PM |
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(10-08-2021 02:23 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (09-01-2021 06:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: I quit posting a couple of years ago. I'm back now.
ECU still has no chance. The more things stay the same the more things stay the same.
ECU & WVU will make 18.
3 x 6
East: East Carolina, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, West Virginia
South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi St
West: Arkansas, LSU, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M
They would just do division-less.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
ECU should go to the Sun Belt.
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11-07-2021 12:53 AM |
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(11-07-2021 12:53 AM)Porcine Wrote: ECU should go to the Sun Belt.
No way, only upward trajectory. That would be like Arkansas going to the Big 12. ECU makes 10x the money that Sun Belt teams do and will be one of the favorites to win the AAC next year and compete for a NY6. The worm has turned and everybody is coming back. ECU's defense is filled w/ freshman and sophomores and are playing much better now than the 1st half of the season. ECU has shut out opponents in 8 of the last 10 quarters. That includes the entire 2nd half @UH who has a pretty high powered offense. $EC here we come!
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(11-08-2021 07:17 PM)B easy Wrote: (11-07-2021 12:53 AM)Porcine Wrote: ECU should go to the Sun Belt.
No way, only upward trajectory. That would be like Arkansas going to the Big 12. ECU makes 10x the money that Sun Belt teams do and will be one of the favorites to win the AAC next year and compete for a NY6. The worm has turned and everybody is coming back. ECU's defense is filled w/ freshman and sophomores and are playing much better now than the 1st half of the season. ECU has shut out opponents in 8 of the last 10 quarters. That includes the entire 2nd half @UH who has a pretty high powered offense. $EC here we come!
The AAC is an island of misfit toys just like the CUSA. The Sun Belt has an identity and is run much better. Games against the SB east would much better draws than the AAC east, whoever they are.
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11-09-2021 05:15 PM |
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B easy
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(11-09-2021 05:15 PM)Porcine Wrote: (11-08-2021 07:17 PM)B easy Wrote: (11-07-2021 12:53 AM)Porcine Wrote: ECU should go to the Sun Belt.
No way, only upward trajectory. That would be like Arkansas going to the Big 12. ECU makes 10x the money that Sun Belt teams do and will be one of the favorites to win the AAC next year and compete for a NY6. The worm has turned and everybody is coming back. ECU's defense is filled w/ freshman and sophomores and are playing much better now than the 1st half of the season. ECU has shut out opponents in 8 of the last 10 quarters. That includes the entire 2nd half @UH who has a pretty high powered offense. $EC here we come!
The AAC is an island of misfit toys just like the CUSA. The Sun Belt has an identity and is run much better. Games against the SB east would much better draws than the AAC east, whoever they are.
ECU has a much bigger and better fan base, stadium, facilities, academics, budget, etc. than Sunbelt schools do. I'd prefer to fly to NOLA, Memphis, Tampa, etc than drive to Boone or Conway, SC. Besides, ECU has just as close (drivable) games in Annapolis & Charlotte in the AAC. AAC makes more money, has more exposure, better quality athletics (particularly basketball even with the deflections) and gives ECU the best shot at the next wave of BIG 12 expansion. Honestly, we might not even be in the top 5 of expansion candidates at this exact point in time but with consistent top quality football and improvement in other areas we might make the cut. Hell, we've already got SEC/ BIG 12 quality baseball FWIW.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(11-10-2021 06:27 PM)B easy Wrote: (11-09-2021 05:15 PM)Porcine Wrote: (11-08-2021 07:17 PM)B easy Wrote: (11-07-2021 12:53 AM)Porcine Wrote: ECU should go to the Sun Belt.
No way, only upward trajectory. That would be like Arkansas going to the Big 12. ECU makes 10x the money that Sun Belt teams do and will be one of the favorites to win the AAC next year and compete for a NY6. The worm has turned and everybody is coming back. ECU's defense is filled w/ freshman and sophomores and are playing much better now than the 1st half of the season. ECU has shut out opponents in 8 of the last 10 quarters. That includes the entire 2nd half @UH who has a pretty high powered offense. $EC here we come!
The AAC is an island of misfit toys just like the CUSA. The Sun Belt has an identity and is run much better. Games against the SB east would much better draws than the AAC east, whoever they are.
ECU has a much bigger and better fan base, stadium, facilities, academics, budget, etc. than Sunbelt schools do. I'd prefer to fly to NOLA, Memphis, Tampa, etc than drive to Boone or Conway, SC. Besides, ECU has just as close (drivable) games in Annapolis & Charlotte in the AAC. AAC makes more money, has more exposure, better quality athletics (particularly basketball even with the deflections) and gives ECU the best shot at the next wave of BIG 12 expansion. Honestly, we might not even be in the top 5 of expansion candidates at this exact point in time but with consistent top quality football and improvement in other areas we might make the cut. Hell, we've already got SEC/ BIG 12 quality baseball FWIW.
If you want to keep ending up in CUSA under different names, go for it.
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11-11-2021 03:42 PM |
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B easy
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(11-11-2021 03:42 PM)Porcine Wrote: (11-10-2021 06:27 PM)B easy Wrote: (11-09-2021 05:15 PM)Porcine Wrote: (11-08-2021 07:17 PM)B easy Wrote: (11-07-2021 12:53 AM)Porcine Wrote: ECU should go to the Sun Belt.
No way, only upward trajectory. That would be like Arkansas going to the Big 12. ECU makes 10x the money that Sun Belt teams do and will be one of the favorites to win the AAC next year and compete for a NY6. The worm has turned and everybody is coming back. ECU's defense is filled w/ freshman and sophomores and are playing much better now than the 1st half of the season. ECU has shut out opponents in 8 of the last 10 quarters. That includes the entire 2nd half @UH who has a pretty high powered offense. $EC here we come!
The AAC is an island of misfit toys just like the CUSA. The Sun Belt has an identity and is run much better. Games against the SB east would much better draws than the AAC east, whoever they are.
ECU has a much bigger and better fan base, stadium, facilities, academics, budget, etc. than Sunbelt schools do. I'd prefer to fly to NOLA, Memphis, Tampa, etc than drive to Boone or Conway, SC. Besides, ECU has just as close (drivable) games in Annapolis & Charlotte in the AAC. AAC makes more money, has more exposure, better quality athletics (particularly basketball even with the deflections) and gives ECU the best shot at the next wave of BIG 12 expansion. Honestly, we might not even be in the top 5 of expansion candidates at this exact point in time but with consistent top quality football and improvement in other areas we might make the cut. Hell, we've already got SEC/ BIG 12 quality baseball FWIW.
If you want to keep ending up in CUSA under different names, go for it.
We want to be in the best football conference possible and make as much money as possible. A lot of it is out of our control but we seem to be trending in the right direction finally.
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11-14-2021 07:30 PM |
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JoeJag
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(06-17-2004 09:30 PM)pirate65 Wrote: SouthLink02 Wrote:Dude, we have no need for you nor does anyone want you
you might not want ECU......but you want that market(Tidewater 4+million) ......ECU will be an afiliate of the SEC within 10 years
You are very wrong. The SEC hardly knows if your school is in North or South Carolina. They do not need any school in North Carolina.
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