airbornepirate
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 03:03 PM)Jacque Wrote: (11-25-2013 02:49 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (11-25-2013 02:18 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: Your life story sounds super interesting. Please tell us more about it!
(11-25-2013 02:07 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (11-25-2013 01:58 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: Someone from Middle Tennessee commenting on the ability to get into ECU is laughable…I am sure you do not want to compare acceptance rates and institutional rankings. ECU is no damn Top Tier University by any means but I find it laughable that someone from a University that has a higher acceptance rate and is not even classified as a National University would take an academic shot at ECU.
Just the facts
Average ACT ECU = 22
Average ACT MT = 22
You are wrong. We are classified as a national university. A little fact checking ahead of time will save you a lot of embarrassment.
If you want to compare one-on-one bring it on. I went undergrad to UT. Accepted to Vanderbilt, Harvard, Penn and Yale but family couldn't afford and they made just enough I couldn't get grants. I refused to sell myself out to student loans the rest of my life. Wasn't worth it. MT did just fine by me for my MBA.
So consider challenge accepted if you want to go one-on-one from an academic intelligence perspective.
Shoot me your phone number and I will be happy to go into more detail.
It is interesting how when one ECU fan's insult of your university is shot down, two other ECU mouth-breathers come in with sarcasm. When your facts cannot be disproven, the other side resorts to witticisms and insults. Textbook.
And before any ECU fans pull out the time-honored KY in-bred, toothless hillbilly comments, I was born and raised in FL so there are no toothless, in-bred hillbillies in my family tree.
Boy, a WKU fan coming to the defense of 3ibL. What is the world coming to?
Actually, I wasn't going to get in to an academic discussion on a football message board, but...
SAT (which most ECU applicants use and MTSU applicants don't)
ECU - 1580
MTSU - 1500
ACT (Which most MTSU applicants use and ECU applicants don't)
22 - Each
4 year grad rate (both ugly, just one is way uglier)-
30% - ECU
16% - MTSU
Acceptance rates -
60% - ECU (-9% from 2011)
67% - MTSU (-4% from 2011)
National rankings
ECU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
MTSU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
And look I didn't need to call anyone a hillbilly, toothless, or a mouth breather. For the record it was a MTSU guy that started the whose university's member is bigger argument...not an ECU guy, Mr. acceptance rate of 92.3% WKU.
Either way I think I am going to have to turn down your offer for a personal call Three. Maybe it will be on the NYT bestseller list some day.
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ECUGrad07
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
AirbornePirate... I definitely respect your love for ECU...
But for the love of God, post your responses BELOW the quote and not above. lol Driving me nuts.
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11-25-2013 03:33 PM |
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airbornepirate
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 03:33 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: AirbornePirate... I definitely respect your love for ECU...
But for the love of God, post your responses BELOW the quote and not above. lol Driving me nuts.
My bad...
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11-25-2013 03:35 PM |
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ECUGrad07
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 03:35 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 03:33 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: AirbornePirate... I definitely respect your love for ECU...
But for the love of God, post your responses BELOW the quote and not above. lol Driving me nuts.
My bad...
Haha no worries... you just get so used to looking at something the same way for 2 years, and then someone does it differently. Hurt my eyes.
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ThreeifbyLightning
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 03:29 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 03:03 PM)Jacque Wrote: (11-25-2013 02:49 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (11-25-2013 02:18 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: Your life story sounds super interesting. Please tell us more about it!
(11-25-2013 02:07 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: Just the facts
Average ACT ECU = 22
Average ACT MT = 22
You are wrong. We are classified as a national university. A little fact checking ahead of time will save you a lot of embarrassment.
If you want to compare one-on-one bring it on. I went undergrad to UT. Accepted to Vanderbilt, Harvard, Penn and Yale but family couldn't afford and they made just enough I couldn't get grants. I refused to sell myself out to student loans the rest of my life. Wasn't worth it. MT did just fine by me for my MBA.
So consider challenge accepted if you want to go one-on-one from an academic intelligence perspective.
Shoot me your phone number and I will be happy to go into more detail.
It is interesting how when one ECU fan's insult of your university is shot down, two other ECU mouth-breathers come in with sarcasm. When your facts cannot be disproven, the other side resorts to witticisms and insults. Textbook.
And before any ECU fans pull out the time-honored KY in-bred, toothless hillbilly comments, I was born and raised in FL so there are no toothless, in-bred hillbillies in my family tree.
Boy, a WKU fan coming to the defense of 3ibL. What is the world coming to?
Actually, I wasn't going to get in to an academic discussion on a football message board, but...
SAT (which most ECU applicants use and MTSU applicants don't)
ECU - 1580
MTSU - 1500
ACT (Which most MTSU applicants use and ECU applicants don't)
22 - Each
4 year grad rate (both ugly, just one is way uglier)-
30% - ECU
16% - MTSU
Acceptance rates -
60% - ECU (-9% from 2011)
67% - MTSU (-4% from 2011)
National rankings
ECU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
MTSU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
And look I didn't need to call anyone a hillbilly, toothless, or a mouth breather. For the record it was a MTSU guy that started the whose university's member is bigger argument...not an ECU guy, Mr. acceptance rate of 92.3% WKU.
Either way I think I am going to have to turn down your offer for a personal call Three. Maybe it will be on the NYT bestseller list some day.
I'm not sure of the validity of those numbers. The univ doesn't track or release four year rates so whoever came up with those numbers guestimated. They track six year rates which is over 50%. Still not great as you said, but those others are not realistic. ECU's is slightly better.
http://www.murfreesboropost.com/inside-m...-cms-34473
Bottom line here is I was being goofy and you all got all serious about it and then acted like becasue I went to school in Tennessee that I am somehow automatically less qualified to have an intellectual discussion. I think I have debunked that.
I'll be standing by for that phone number.
Now, let's get back to the topic at hand. Your coach risking your all-everything QB by having him drop back in a game already decided was not smart. It is; therefore, a legitimate démarche or otherwise unfortunate countermove (since you ECU alums probably don't know what that means) on my part to issue as to question either the sanity or intelligence of the sheepish or perhaps we should say "Herd-like" ( )support for such flawed decision-making by your program's leadership. Just sayin!
Damn, how many hours til Friday??
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11-25-2013 04:23 PM |
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airbornepirate
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 04:23 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (11-25-2013 03:29 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 03:03 PM)Jacque Wrote: (11-25-2013 02:49 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (11-25-2013 02:18 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: Your life story sounds super interesting. Please tell us more about it!
Shoot me your phone number and I will be happy to go into more detail.
It is interesting how when one ECU fan's insult of your university is shot down, two other ECU mouth-breathers come in with sarcasm. When your facts cannot be disproven, the other side resorts to witticisms and insults. Textbook.
And before any ECU fans pull out the time-honored KY in-bred, toothless hillbilly comments, I was born and raised in FL so there are no toothless, in-bred hillbillies in my family tree.
Boy, a WKU fan coming to the defense of 3ibL. What is the world coming to?
Actually, I wasn't going to get in to an academic discussion on a football message board, but...
SAT (which most ECU applicants use and MTSU applicants don't)
ECU - 1580
MTSU - 1500
ACT (Which most MTSU applicants use and ECU applicants don't)
22 - Each
4 year grad rate (both ugly, just one is way uglier)-
30% - ECU
16% - MTSU
Acceptance rates -
60% - ECU (-9% from 2011)
67% - MTSU (-4% from 2011)
National rankings
ECU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
MTSU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
And look I didn't need to call anyone a hillbilly, toothless, or a mouth breather. For the record it was a MTSU guy that started the whose university's member is bigger argument...not an ECU guy, Mr. acceptance rate of 92.3% WKU.
Either way I think I am going to have to turn down your offer for a personal call Three. Maybe it will be on the NYT bestseller list some day.
I'm not sure of the validity of those numbers. The univ doesn't track or release four year rates so whoever came up with those numbers guestimated. They track six year rates which is over 50%. Still not great as you said, but those others are not realistic. ECU's is slightly better.
http://www.murfreesboropost.com/inside-m...-cms-34473
Bottom line here is I was being goofy and you all got all serious about it and then acted like becasue I went to school in Tennessee that I am somehow automatically less qualified to have an intellectual discussion. I think I have debunked that.
I'll be standing by for that phone number.
Now, let's get back to the topic at hand. Your coach risking your all-everything QB by having him drop back in a game already decided was not smart. It is; therefore, a legititmate démarche or otherwise unfortunate countermove (since you ECU alums probably don't know what that means) on my part to question either the sanity or intelligence of the sheepish or perhaps we should say "Herd-like" ( )support for such flawed decision-making by your program's leadership. Just sayin!
Damn, how many hours til Friday??
Dude, I wasn't really responding because of you...mostly that response was because of the WKU guy. Also, thoe rates you posted (which I just skimmed so it might have been in there) didn't state if that % was for 4 year grads. That % lined up with the over 5 year grad number on the sites I found. Anyways, I never once commented on your intelligence level. You did that. But while we are at it...wouldn you please learn me some more of them big fancy words?
As far as the decision... there was no other QB option. Let us also realize Carden was pretty safe during the UAB game. It isn't like they were facing the VT or Bama defense. Burning a shirt for the prospective heir would have been dumb.
But what do I know Ima just a dumb EZU gradjiat amirite?
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11-25-2013 04:30 PM |
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ThreeifbyLightning
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 04:30 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 04:23 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (11-25-2013 03:29 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 03:03 PM)Jacque Wrote: (11-25-2013 02:49 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: Shoot me your phone number and I will be happy to go into more detail.
It is interesting how when one ECU fan's insult of your university is shot down, two other ECU mouth-breathers come in with sarcasm. When your facts cannot be disproven, the other side resorts to witticisms and insults. Textbook.
And before any ECU fans pull out the time-honored KY in-bred, toothless hillbilly comments, I was born and raised in FL so there are no toothless, in-bred hillbillies in my family tree.
Boy, a WKU fan coming to the defense of 3ibL. What is the world coming to?
Actually, I wasn't going to get in to an academic discussion on a football message board, but...
SAT (which most ECU applicants use and MTSU applicants don't)
ECU - 1580
MTSU - 1500
ACT (Which most MTSU applicants use and ECU applicants don't)
22 - Each
4 year grad rate (both ugly, just one is way uglier)-
30% - ECU
16% - MTSU
Acceptance rates -
60% - ECU (-9% from 2011)
67% - MTSU (-4% from 2011)
National rankings
ECU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
MTSU - http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings
And look I didn't need to call anyone a hillbilly, toothless, or a mouth breather. For the record it was a MTSU guy that started the whose university's member is bigger argument...not an ECU guy, Mr. acceptance rate of 92.3% WKU.
Either way I think I am going to have to turn down your offer for a personal call Three. Maybe it will be on the NYT bestseller list some day.
I'm not sure of the validity of those numbers. The univ doesn't track or release four year rates so whoever came up with those numbers guestimated. They track six year rates which is over 50%. Still not great as you said, but those others are not realistic. ECU's is slightly better.
http://www.murfreesboropost.com/inside-m...-cms-34473
Bottom line here is I was being goofy and you all got all serious about it and then acted like becasue I went to school in Tennessee that I am somehow automatically less qualified to have an intellectual discussion. I think I have debunked that.
I'll be standing by for that phone number.
Now, let's get back to the topic at hand. Your coach risking your all-everything QB by having him drop back in a game already decided was not smart. It is; therefore, a legititmate démarche or otherwise unfortunate countermove (since you ECU alums probably don't know what that means) on my part to question either the sanity or intelligence of the sheepish or perhaps we should say "Herd-like" ( )support for such flawed decision-making by your program's leadership. Just sayin!
Damn, how many hours til Friday??
As far as the decision... there was no other QB option. Let us also realize
See, this just proves you guys still do not understand WTF we are saying.
Leaving him in the game is one thing. That's completely understandable considering the circumstances. Having him drop back was not worth the risk/reward, and I don't care if it was 3rd and 30. The game was over.
I can't get through on this. Too many thick ego skulls, so I'll just leave it there. Good luck when you lose a key contributor in the future to such a boneheaded decision. It will happen.
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11-25-2013 04:34 PM |
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airbornepirate
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 04:34 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: See, this just proves you guys still do not understand WTF we are saying.
Leaving him in the game is one thing. That's completely understandable considering the circumstances. Having him drop back was not worth the risk/reward, and I don't care if it was 3rd and 30. The game was over.
I can't get through on this. Too many thick ego skulls, so I'll just leave it there. Good luck when you lose a key contributor in the future to such a boneheaded decision. It will happen.
I fully understand your reasoning. However, short passes are equal to runs in this offense and the play call was either a run or a short pass. He checked the D and decided to throw long. That wasn't a coaching decision. That was a QB decision. The box was stacked and he saw an opening. Again, Carden made that decision. My ego doesn't give a crap about the decision for the record.
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11-25-2013 04:37 PM |
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ecumbh1999
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 04:37 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 04:34 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: See, this just proves you guys still do not understand WTF we are saying.
Leaving him in the game is one thing. That's completely understandable considering the circumstances. Having him drop back was not worth the risk/reward, and I don't care if it was 3rd and 30. The game was over.
I can't get through on this. Too many thick ego skulls, so I'll just leave it there. Good luck when you lose a key contributor in the future to such a boneheaded decision. It will happen.
I fully understand your reasoning. However, short passes are equal to runs in this offense and the play call was either a run or a short pass. He checked the D and decided to throw long. That wasn't a coaching decision. That was a QB decision. The box was stacked and he saw an opening. Again, Carden made that decision. My ego doesn't give a crap about the decision for the record.
See, first for him to understand why we aren't worried about, we get our offense and how it works. He doesn't.
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11-25-2013 07:11 PM |
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PurpleReigns
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 07:28 AM)Greg H Wrote: (11-25-2013 12:50 AM)TheEastisPurple Wrote: Our original backup is out for the season with an arm injury so our 3rd string true freshman who is redshirting is now the backup.
Sorry for the random thread, but I figured this was the easiest way to make it clear to the inevitable poster or 2 each week that accuses ECU of running up the score because we leave Carden in. If this doesn't apply to you please ignore and carry on.
I know you've officially gotten away with it...but was it really worth it to play Carden in cleanup time just to save that redshirt? Hell, an RB could just hand it off to make sure Carden didn't get hurt. All I know is I would have gotten Carden out whenever I could at just about any cost.
Funny you say that. There is a rumor going around that Carden had surgery on his non throwing hand. Ruff hasn't mentioned it nor any credible sources have ran a story on it though.
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11-25-2013 07:14 PM |
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Fo Shizzle
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
I can't believe this OP spawned 51 posts. We don't need to explain schit to anyone.
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11-25-2013 07:57 PM |
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TheEastisPurple
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 07:14 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote: (11-25-2013 07:28 AM)Greg H Wrote: (11-25-2013 12:50 AM)TheEastisPurple Wrote: Our original backup is out for the season with an arm injury so our 3rd string true freshman who is redshirting is now the backup.
Sorry for the random thread, but I figured this was the easiest way to make it clear to the inevitable poster or 2 each week that accuses ECU of running up the score because we leave Carden in. If this doesn't apply to you please ignore and carry on.
I know you've officially gotten away with it...but was it really worth it to play Carden in cleanup time just to save that redshirt? Hell, an RB could just hand it off to make sure Carden didn't get hurt. All I know is I would have gotten Carden out whenever I could at just about any cost.
Funny you say that. There is a rumor going around that Carden had surgery on his non throwing hand. Ruff hasn't mentioned it nor any credible sources have ran a story on it though.
If it happened it definitely didn't happen in garbage time.
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11-25-2013 08:05 PM |
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
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TheEastisPurple
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 07:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I can't believe this OP spawned 51 posts. We don't need to explain schit to anyone.
I know. I'm sorry. In my defense though how could I have anticipated academic smack coming from this?
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
So who is starting a QB for ECU on Friday?
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11-25-2013 08:44 PM |
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PurpleReigns
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 08:44 PM)dawgitall Wrote: So who is starting a QB for ECU on Friday?
Unless something official comes out to confirm the rumor, Carden.
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airbornepirate
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
I heard that instead of burning Benkert's shirt, Cooper and Hardy will be splitting time at QB.
(11-25-2013 09:07 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote: (11-25-2013 08:44 PM)dawgitall Wrote: So who is starting a QB for ECU on Friday?
Unless something official comes out to confirm the rumor, Carden.
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11-25-2013 09:37 PM |
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 08:44 PM)dawgitall Wrote: So who is starting a QB for ECU on Friday?
Pinkney with Pinkney backing up.
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11-25-2013 09:49 PM |
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airbornepirate
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 09:49 PM)PGPirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 08:44 PM)dawgitall Wrote: So who is starting a QB for ECU on Friday?
Pinkney with Pinkney backing up.
Hopefully Patrick stays out of Macy's between now and then.
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11-25-2013 10:11 PM |
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ecumbh1999
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RE: We are playing Carden in garbage time because our backup is redshirting
(11-25-2013 10:11 PM)airbornepirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 09:49 PM)PGPirate Wrote: (11-25-2013 08:44 PM)dawgitall Wrote: So who is starting a QB for ECU on Friday?
Pinkney with Pinkney backing up.
Hopefully Patrick stays out of Macy's between now and then.
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