(04-04-2014 12:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-04-2014 12:36 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Our campus had a few cases 3-4 years ago. One of them kissin diseases

Actually meningitis is much easier to get than other things. The contact doesn't have to be sexual or even bodily. It can spread like the flu.

Are women coming down with meningitis?

Quote:“I think the important thing to understand is this is not an epidemic,” Bolan said. “But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.”

That's from the article.. I think it's basically saying, hey you can get it from this and this, but if you're into dudes, and you bang.. You just upped your chances a smidge.. Also if one of you are HIV positive, the chances just shot through the roof.

Just saying that as the article says

Quote:It can spread like the flu.

women should be getting it as well which I do believe it is not the case here. It's all men?

(04-05-2014 12:32 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

Quote:“I think the important thing to understand is this is not an epidemic,” Bolan said. “But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.”

That's from the article.. I think it's basically saying, hey you can get it from this and this, but if you're into dudes, and you bang.. You just upped your chances a smidge.. Also if one of you are HIV positive, the chances just shot through the roof.

Actually, it doesn't say that. It could be related to other, coincidental issues. I think it would be more interesting if we knew more about where the authorities think the disease was transmitted.

Meningitis doesn't have a long incubation period. So outbreaks tend to not travel well.

meningitis should be called upon to resign immediately. the bigoted, hate filled bastard!

I've heard of men in tights but never of meningitis. By the way, what's a gitis?

(04-05-2014 02:12 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Just saying that as the article says

Quote:It can spread like the flu.

women should be getting it as well which I do believe it is not the case here. It's all men?

?.... women can get it

Lincoln probably wasn't gay, but James Buchanan almost certainly was.

(04-06-2014 01:17 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I've heard of men in tights but never of meningitis. By the way, what's a gitis?

(04-06-2014 06:33 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Lincoln probably wasn't gay, but James Buchanan almost certainly was.

Of course he wasn't. the revisionist slimeballs trying to call lincoln gay make me genuinely angry.

(04-05-2014 11:49 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-04-2014 12:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-04-2014 12:36 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Our campus had a few cases 3-4 years ago. One of them kissin diseases

Actually meningitis is much easier to get than other things. The contact doesn't have to be sexual or even bodily. It can spread like the flu.

Are women coming down with meningitis?

How much close personal contact is a gay many going to have with women, sexual or not?

(04-05-2014 03:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:32 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

Quote:“I think the important thing to understand is this is not an epidemic,” Bolan said. “But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.”

That's from the article.. I think it's basically saying, hey you can get it from this and this, but if you're into dudes, and you bang.. You just upped your chances a smidge.. Also if one of you are HIV positive, the chances just shot through the roof.

Actually, it doesn't say that. It could be related to other, coincidental issues. I think it would be more interesting if we knew more about where the authorities think the disease was transmitted.

Meningitis doesn't have a long incubation period. So outbreaks tend to not travel well.

I'm pretty sure it does.. The article said and I quote again: But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.

Which says, hey if your a man having sex with another man, and one is HIV positive, you're chances have shot through the roof.

Tom's such a tool.

(04-07-2014 09:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 03:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:32 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

Quote:“I think the important thing to understand is this is not an epidemic,” Bolan said. “But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.”

That's from the article.. I think it's basically saying, hey you can get it from this and this, but if you're into dudes, and you bang.. You just upped your chances a smidge.. Also if one of you are HIV positive, the chances just shot through the roof.

Actually, it doesn't say that. It could be related to other, coincidental issues. I think it would be more interesting if we knew more about where the authorities think the disease was transmitted.

Meningitis doesn't have a long incubation period. So outbreaks tend to not travel well.

I'm pretty sure it does.. The article said and I quote again: But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.

Which says, hey if your a man having sex with another man, and one is HIV positive, you're chances have shot through the roof.

Tom's such a tool.

Without knowing the details of the outbreak, I wouldn't be changing much as far as my behavior goes (which is pretty tame). Its not the HIV portion that is relevant here. Because unless this is some odd strain, there's really little gestation in meningitis. So, unlike HIV, it can't spread for a while before it appears. Usually persons infected with meningitis get too sick too quickly for these outbreaks to really get out of control.

You'll note in my first response to this issue, I do note that there are problems in the community that bear watching. And Southern California is the epicenter of where these problems are (advocacy/tolerance of extremely poor health choices such as unsafe sex and narcotics usage).

I fully expect to see a health scare coming out of Southern California. This isn't it.

(04-07-2014 09:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 03:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:32 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

Quote:“I think the important thing to understand is this is not an epidemic,” Bolan said. “But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.”

That's from the article.. I think it's basically saying, hey you can get it from this and this, but if you're into dudes, and you bang.. You just upped your chances a smidge.. Also if one of you are HIV positive, the chances just shot through the roof.

Actually, it doesn't say that. It could be related to other, coincidental issues. I think it would be more interesting if we knew more about where the authorities think the disease was transmitted.

Meningitis doesn't have a long incubation period. So outbreaks tend to not travel well.

I'm pretty sure it does.. The article said and I quote again: But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.

Which says, hey if your a man having sex with another man, and one is HIV positive, you're chances have shot through the roof.

Tom's such a tool.

Without knowing the details of the outbreak, I wouldn't be changing much as far as my behavior goes (which is pretty tame). Its not the HIV portion that is relevant here. Because unless this is some odd strain, there's really little gestation in meningitis. So, unlike HIV, it can't spread for a while before it appears. Usually persons infected with meningitis get too sick too quickly for these outbreaks to really get out of control.

You'll note in my first response to this issue, I do note that there are problems in the community that bear watching. And Southern California is the epicenter of where these problems are (advocacy/tolerance of extremely poor health choices such as unsafe sex and narcotics usage).

I fully expect to see a health scare coming out of Southern California. This isn't it.

I guess you're right.. I mean what do Doctors and people in the Health Industry know that you don't know right?

(04-07-2014 10:11 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 03:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:32 PM)gdunn Wrote:  That's from the article.. I think it's basically saying, hey you can get it from this and this, but if you're into dudes, and you bang.. You just upped your chances a smidge.. Also if one of you are HIV positive, the chances just shot through the roof.

Actually, it doesn't say that. It could be related to other, coincidental issues. I think it would be more interesting if we knew more about where the authorities think the disease was transmitted.

Meningitis doesn't have a long incubation period. So outbreaks tend to not travel well.

I'm pretty sure it does.. The article said and I quote again: But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.

Which says, hey if your a man having sex with another man, and one is HIV positive, you're chances have shot through the roof.

Tom's such a tool.

Without knowing the details of the outbreak, I wouldn't be changing much as far as my behavior goes (which is pretty tame). Its not the HIV portion that is relevant here. Because unless this is some odd strain, there's really little gestation in meningitis. So, unlike HIV, it can't spread for a while before it appears. Usually persons infected with meningitis get too sick too quickly for these outbreaks to really get out of control.

You'll note in my first response to this issue, I do note that there are problems in the community that bear watching. And Southern California is the epicenter of where these problems are (advocacy/tolerance of extremely poor health choices such as unsafe sex and narcotics usage).

I fully expect to see a health scare coming out of Southern California. This isn't it.

I guess you're right.. I mean what do Doctors and people in the Health Industry know that you don't know right?

Given the history that the American Public Health system has in understanding issues that impact epidemics in our community....probably very little.

(04-07-2014 10:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:11 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 03:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, it doesn't say that. It could be related to other, coincidental issues. I think it would be more interesting if we knew more about where the authorities think the disease was transmitted.

Meningitis doesn't have a long incubation period. So outbreaks tend to not travel well.

I'm pretty sure it does.. The article said and I quote again: But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.

Which says, hey if your a man having sex with another man, and one is HIV positive, you're chances have shot through the roof.

Tom's such a tool.

Without knowing the details of the outbreak, I wouldn't be changing much as far as my behavior goes (which is pretty tame). Its not the HIV portion that is relevant here. Because unless this is some odd strain, there's really little gestation in meningitis. So, unlike HIV, it can't spread for a while before it appears. Usually persons infected with meningitis get too sick too quickly for these outbreaks to really get out of control.

You'll note in my first response to this issue, I do note that there are problems in the community that bear watching. And Southern California is the epicenter of where these problems are (advocacy/tolerance of extremely poor health choices such as unsafe sex and narcotics usage).

I fully expect to see a health scare coming out of Southern California. This isn't it.

I guess you're right.. I mean what do Doctors and people in the Health Industry know that you don't know right?

Given the history that the American Public Health system has in understanding issues that impact epidemics in our community....probably very little.

Hey I get it... People in the healthcare industry are oblivious.. I mean that is the liberal stance.. You don't care how much time these people have spent in their respective field, they don't know as much as a Senator in DC who went to law school or you.. I get it.

(04-07-2014 11:04 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:11 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:13 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm pretty sure it does.. The article said and I quote again: But there’s a pretty strong signal that men who have sex with men, at least those who are HIV positive, are at increased risk for invasive meningococcal disease.

Which says, hey if your a man having sex with another man, and one is HIV positive, you're chances have shot through the roof.

Tom's such a tool.

Without knowing the details of the outbreak, I wouldn't be changing much as far as my behavior goes (which is pretty tame). Its not the HIV portion that is relevant here. Because unless this is some odd strain, there's really little gestation in meningitis. So, unlike HIV, it can't spread for a while before it appears. Usually persons infected with meningitis get too sick too quickly for these outbreaks to really get out of control.

You'll note in my first response to this issue, I do note that there are problems in the community that bear watching. And Southern California is the epicenter of where these problems are (advocacy/tolerance of extremely poor health choices such as unsafe sex and narcotics usage).

I fully expect to see a health scare coming out of Southern California. This isn't it.

I guess you're right.. I mean what do Doctors and people in the Health Industry know that you don't know right?

Given the history that the American Public Health system has in understanding issues that impact epidemics in our community....probably very little.

Hey I get it... People in the healthcare industry are oblivious.. I mean that is the liberal stance.. You don't care how much time these people have spent in their respective field, they don't know as much as a Senator in DC who went to law school or you.. I get it.

We've learned through experience not to rely on the public health authorities for the safety of our community.

The outbreak is troubling. But outside of any evidence that this is tied from a medical sense to close contact with HIV positive persons, I'm not really buying the article the way you are.

My guess is that while the outbreak was concentrated in HIV positive persons was that it was related to factors outside of their serostatus, such as hanging out with cracked out Truvada whores who aren't using protection to have sex and having sex with too many people in an environment where safer sex practices have been jettisoned (which is a growing problem in our community - but one that impacts a small segment of the overall community). Which is what I strongly suspect was the case here. But the public health folks are too stupid or too afraid to say so. Which is wrong.

The implications of the public health statement as you interpret it is that there is now an AIRBOURNE transmittable deadly disease that is transmitted with a greater ferocity by persons simply by virtue of their HIV positive status. I don't see that. And that would be extremely troubling for everyone if that were the case. It would also imply a mutation of HIV and Meningitis.

I think the absence of any new cases reported beyond those already identified lends credence to the implication that this outbreak was more related to environmental factors other than the fact that the person was HIV positive.

I hate to say this.. But if you have HIV, maybe it's time to stop engaging in sexual activity whether you're male, female, homosexual, or heterosexual. I mean if you had the flu are you going to go on a run in the cold or go swimming?

Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.