(04-07-2014 04:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.

Actually it isn't a death sentence anymore. I certainly wouldn't want it though.

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

But someone with it certainly shouldn't be having sexual relations with another.

(04-07-2014 04:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.

You can live a positive life and properly medicated experie ce little AIDs like side effects. New drugs are miraculous.




And Paul, its called protection for a reason.

(04-07-2014 09:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.

You can live a positive life and properly medicated experie ce little AIDs like side effects. New drugs are miraculous.




And Paul, its called protection for a reason.

I don't doubt that, medicine has come a long way since the 90s.. I look at Magic Johnson and wonder how in the world has he survived this long, when there were many in the same time he contracted it that are long gone.

(04-07-2014 09:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.

You can live a positive life and properly medicated experie ce little AIDs like side effects. New drugs are miraculous.




And Paul, its called protection for a reason.

Better hope you are bringing in enough for another mortgage payment.

(04-08-2014 07:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.

You can live a positive life and properly medicated experie ce little AIDs like side effects. New drugs are miraculous.




And Paul, its called protection for a reason.

Better hope you are bringing in enough for another mortgage payment.

A sad reality with most medications for major diseases/disorders

(04-07-2014 09:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.

You can live a positive life and properly medicated experie ce little AIDs like side effects. New drugs are miraculous.




And Paul, its called protection for a reason.

Anyone with HIV/AIDS should abstain from relations with another completely. To act otherwise is selfish and anyone who can't control themselves is a worthless ********. Same for anyone who knowingly has sex with an infected person.

(04-08-2014 02:55 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:10 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Being HIV+ is not a death sentence.

It's close enough for some though JD.

You can live a positive life and properly medicated experie ce little AIDs like side effects. New drugs are miraculous.




And Paul, its called protection for a reason.

Anyone with HIV/AIDS should abstain from relations with another completely. To act otherwise is selfish and anyone who can't control themselves is a worthless ********. Same for anyone who knowingly has sex with an infected person.

Clearly you've never heard of PrEP or tenofovir or Truvada. Coupling these with protection = excellent way to prevent spread.

There's a reason more porn films are going condom free (to the disgruntlement of MANY, myself included). Lots of new drugs preventing spread of diseases popping up.

Read more before being so condemnatory. You look ignorant otherwise.

Stand by what I say. Shouldn't be putting others at risk. You want to go have sex with an infected person, go ahead. That's incredibly stupid. Read all the bs you like, believe if you like. Don't try to convince others of your idiocy.

(04-08-2014 04:04 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Stand by what I say. Shouldn't be putting others at risk. You want to go have sex with an infected person, go ahead. That's incredibly stupid. Read all the bs you like, believe if you like. Don't try to convince others of your idiocy.

I believe that with proper medication and protection the risk is minimal. Doctors agree. It's up to the people engaging in those activities to take the risk... because there's risk in all 'adult' activities.


But to say what I read is 'bs' makes you look ignorant. This isn't a fantasy novel. It's medical breakthroughs and gives very serious hope to those dismayed or disheartened by being HIV + (gay/straight alike).


Now YOU, I would not sleep with. The fear of coparenting w/ someone against reading is just too much for me to handle.

(04-08-2014 04:07 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:04 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Stand by what I say. Shouldn't be putting others at risk. You want to go have sex with an infected person, go ahead. That's incredibly stupid. Read all the bs you like, believe if you like. Don't try to convince others of your idiocy.

I believe that with proper medication and protection the risk is minimal. Doctors agree. It's up to the people engaging in those activities to take the risk... because there's risk in all 'adult' activities.


But to say what I read is 'bs' makes you look ignorant. This isn't a fantasy novel. It's medical breakthroughs and gives very serious hope to those dismayed or disheartened by being HIV + (gay/straight alike).


Now YOU, I would not sleep with. The fear of coparenting w/ someone against reading is just too much for me to handle.

I feel the same way about Tulane fans. Plus you're a dude and my barn door don't swing that way...

I really can't stomach people with such a cavalier attitude about such matters. People who can't control their own urges and put their own desires above others health.

(04-08-2014 04:12 PM)Paul M Wrote:  I really can't stomach people with such a cavalier attitude about such matters. People who can't control their own urges and put their own desires above others health.

THERE IS PROTECTION AND PREVENTATIVE MEDICATION YOU DOLT. Are we now expecting to reduce any and all STI victims to a life of celibacy?

(04-08-2014 04:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:07 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:04 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Stand by what I say. Shouldn't be putting others at risk. You want to go have sex with an infected person, go ahead. That's incredibly stupid. Read all the bs you like, believe if you like. Don't try to convince others of your idiocy.

I believe that with proper medication and protection the risk is minimal. Doctors agree. It's up to the people engaging in those activities to take the risk... because there's risk in all 'adult' activities.


But to say what I read is 'bs' makes you look ignorant. This isn't a fantasy novel. It's medical breakthroughs and gives very serious hope to those dismayed or disheartened by being HIV + (gay/straight alike).


Now YOU, I would not sleep with. The fear of coparenting w/ someone against reading is just too much for me to handle.

I feel the same way about Tulane fans. Plus you're a dude and my barn door don't swing that way...

;]


jk neither do I.

I'm kinda with Paul. I understand adults have urges and want to engage in sexual activity. But if you have HIV/Aids, maybe you shouldn't act on those urges.. That's just me.

About a year ago, a guy in MS had unprotected sex with several people because he was mad he had Aids. He didn't tell a single person.

(04-08-2014 04:19 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm kinda with Paul. I understand adults have urges and want to engage in sexual activity. But if you have HIV/Aids, maybe you shouldn't act on those urges.. That's just me.

About a year ago, a guy in MS had unprotected sex with several people because he was mad he had Aids. He didn't tell a single person.

I think EVERYONE intelligent agrees that unprotected sex is wrong when one person has HIV. Even worse is failing to disclose.


But with medication and protection the risk can drop to near zero.

(04-08-2014 04:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:19 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm kinda with Paul. I understand adults have urges and want to engage in sexual activity. But if you have HIV/Aids, maybe you shouldn't act on those urges.. That's just me.

About a year ago, a guy in MS had unprotected sex with several people because he was mad he had Aids. He didn't tell a single person.

I think EVERYONE intelligent agrees that unprotected sex is wrong when one person has HIV. Even worse is failing to disclose.


But with medication and protection the risk can drop to near zero.

I'm sure it can. I guess my thought process and it might be a bit backwoods is, I wouldn't want to put myself in that position.

(04-08-2014 04:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:12 PM)Paul M Wrote:  I really can't stomach people with such a cavalier attitude about such matters. People who can't control their own urges and put their own desires above others health.

THERE IS PROTECTION AND PREVENTATIVE MEDICATION YOU DOLT. Are we now expecting to reduce any and all STI victims to a life of celibacy?

NOT FULL PROOF GENIUS.

Yes, it's up to those involved if they want to take risks. But anyone who lies about the risks is despicable. Trying to convince someone that with drugs and condoms they're safe is a lie.

Near zero wouldn't be good enough for me.

(04-08-2014 04:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:19 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm kinda with Paul. I understand adults have urges and want to engage in sexual activity. But if you have HIV/Aids, maybe you shouldn't act on those urges.. That's just me.

About a year ago, a guy in MS had unprotected sex with several people because he was mad he had Aids. He didn't tell a single person.

I think EVERYONE intelligent agrees that unprotected sex is wrong when one person has HIV. Even worse is failing to disclose.


But with medication and protection the risk can drop to near zero.

I'm sure it can. I guess my thought process and it might be a bit backwoods is, I wouldn't want to put myself in that position.

Not backwoods at all. I find myself in the same opinion. I PERSONALLY would choose not to engage in it unless the risk % was ZERO. .01% still makes me nervous. What bothers me is Paul wanting to control other people's adult choices w/ their own bodies.

Very unrepublican of him really. OR rather.... VERY republican of him.

(04-08-2014 04:25 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:12 PM)Paul M Wrote:  I really can't stomach people with such a cavalier attitude about such matters. People who can't control their own urges and put their own desires above others health.

THERE IS PROTECTION AND PREVENTATIVE MEDICATION YOU DOLT. Are we now expecting to reduce any and all STI victims to a life of celibacy?

NOT FULL PROOF GENIUS.

Yes, it's up to those involved if they want to take risks. But anyone who lies about the risks is despicable. Trying to convince someone that with drugs and condoms they're safe is a lie.

Near zero wouldn't be good enough for me.

Now you're back tracking. At first you said no one should.... now you say it's their choice? Which is it?
Any and every time you have sex you put yourself at risk for a multitude of diseases/infections. Ever hear the herpes stats?


So thank you for informing us all you're one big ole virgin Paul. Or a hypocrite. You get to pick :)