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(07-11-2014 05:08 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Have any AAC teams been getting quite a few transfers from P5 schools?
I've learned that Hawaii has 6 transfers from PAC12 schools eligible this year and SDSU has 4 PAC-12 transfers and getting 4-5 call/day regarding transferring. I'm not sure about other MW teams.

Temple has:

Penn State 3*/4* LB Zayd Issah, although he never played there after having some legal issues.

Air Force/Air Force Prep WR Marshall Ellick (walk on)

VA Tech DB Boye Aromire

Also former VA Tech DB commit Cequan Jefferson who was qualified, but VT wouldn't take him for some reason. He should play early.

We usually have a couple, but it's not really something we do a lot of.
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(07-11-2014 05:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 05:08 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Have any AAC teams been getting quite a few transfers from P5 schools?
I've learned that Hawaii has 6 transfers from PAC12 schools eligible this year and SDSU has 4 PAC-12 transfers and getting 4-5 call/day regarding transferring. I'm not sure about other MW teams.

i think we all have, houston being the hometown of alot of recruits we always get a ton every year, most noteable would be 2 OLine that transfer from oklahoma and oklahoma st that were starters

and ucf had a ridiculous amount of people wanting to transfer they had 28 transfer request

Cool. Well, its interesting to know that the interest is there and of course, why the player wants to transfer. The quality may not be good but to get a transfer that is a 3 star athlete over somebody who is a 1 or 2 star will always be good for depth.

I know the G5 commissioners are concerned about the transfer rules the P5 want to pass, but I wonder if the concern is more for basketball than football. While a top G5 player being offered by a P5 school is a concern, they may not be starting and will be the primary backup. While the transfers from the P5 schools are more likely to start. So I wonder if may the concern is a bit overblown? Any concerns on your end? The MW seem to be getting more quality PAC transfers lately and is looking to continue the trend (mainly defensive players, since learning an offense is more complex and need a couple of years to get comfortable and know it well).
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RE: 2014-2015 American Athletic Recruiting Thread
(07-11-2014 08:13 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 05:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 05:08 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Have any AAC teams been getting quite a few transfers from P5 schools?
I've learned that Hawaii has 6 transfers from PAC12 schools eligible this year and SDSU has 4 PAC-12 transfers and getting 4-5 call/day regarding transferring. I'm not sure about other MW teams.

i think we all have, houston being the hometown of alot of recruits we always get a ton every year, most noteable would be 2 OLine that transfer from oklahoma and oklahoma st that were starters

and ucf had a ridiculous amount of people wanting to transfer they had 28 transfer request

Cool. Well, its interesting to know that the interest is there and of course, why the player wants to transfer. The quality may not be good but to get a transfer that is a 3 star athlete over somebody who is a 1 or 2 star will always be good for depth.

I know the G5 commissioners are concerned about the transfer rules the P5 want to pass, but I wonder if the concern is more for basketball than football. While a top G5 player being offered by a P5 school is a concern, they may not be starting and will be the primary backup. While the transfers from the P5 schools are more likely to start. So I wonder if may the concern is a bit overblown? Any concerns on your end? The MW seem to be getting more quality PAC transfers lately and is looking to continue the trend (mainly defensive players, since learning an offense is more complex and need a couple of years to get comfortable and know it well).

its a HUGE concern, you have to realize not every P5 is bama, and it goes beyond the average players but the problem is that theyd take our star players, who'd definitely on start most of the p5 teams.

derek carr/david fales, could have started for half the SEC and theyd have had to really consider it if the option was available to increase their stocks..and the line "do whats best for their family"wuld have come up.

whats stopping a Virginia tech or TCU who have dominant defenses but horrible offense especially at qb, from coming to shane carden or john okorn and saying you guys come play for us. the schools would definitely do it if that was available without a seconds hesitation

or to a pj walker, QB at temple, who had a great individual rookie season, but the overall temple team blew last year and saying to him come to this P5 team where you dont have to carry the team, and he honestly have to consider that, for his future draft/ potential Heisman/accolade possibilities

we could end up a farm system for the P5 if the transfer rule is changed
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(07-11-2014 05:08 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Have any AAC teams been getting quite a few transfers from P5 schools?
I've learned that Hawaii has 6 transfers from PAC12 schools eligible this year and SDSU has 4 PAC-12 transfers and getting 4-5 call/day regarding transferring. 03-phew I'm not sure about other MW teams.

I'd be shocked if they're getting 4-5 calls a week about transferring. Sorry, but nobody, including 'Bama and ND, get that many calls daily from potential transfers.
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Sometimes we get highly rated recruits we had offered wanting to transfer later when they realize their situation isn't what they wanted. We don't take them though to discourage people from that sort of behavior.
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(07-12-2014 10:03 AM)DfromCT Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 05:08 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Have any AAC teams been getting quite a few transfers from P5 schools?
I've learned that Hawaii has 6 transfers from PAC12 schools eligible this year and SDSU has 4 PAC-12 transfers and getting 4-5 call/day regarding transferring. 03-phew I'm not sure about other MW teams.

I'd be shocked if they're getting 4-5 calls a week about transferring. Sorry, but nobody, including 'Bama and ND, get that many calls daily from potential transfers.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Jun/...stination/

Here you go, straight from Rocky Longs mouth.
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Feel free to use my post on page 10 to update USF's recruiting. 07-coffee3
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(07-11-2014 08:54 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 08:13 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 05:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 05:08 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Have any AAC teams been getting quite a few transfers from P5 schools?
I've learned that Hawaii has 6 transfers from PAC12 schools eligible this year and SDSU has 4 PAC-12 transfers and getting 4-5 call/day regarding transferring. I'm not sure about other MW teams.

i think we all have, houston being the hometown of alot of recruits we always get a ton every year, most noteable would be 2 OLine that transfer from oklahoma and oklahoma st that were starters

and ucf had a ridiculous amount of people wanting to transfer they had 28 transfer request

Cool. Well, its interesting to know that the interest is there and of course, why the player wants to transfer. The quality may not be good but to get a transfer that is a 3 star athlete over somebody who is a 1 or 2 star will always be good for depth.

I know the G5 commissioners are concerned about the transfer rules the P5 want to pass, but I wonder if the concern is more for basketball than football. While a top G5 player being offered by a P5 school is a concern, they may not be starting and will be the primary backup. While the transfers from the P5 schools are more likely to start. So I wonder if may the concern is a bit overblown? Any concerns on your end? The MW seem to be getting more quality PAC transfers lately and is looking to continue the trend (mainly defensive players, since learning an offense is more complex and need a couple of years to get comfortable and know it well).

its a HUGE concern, you have to realize not every P5 is bama, and it goes beyond the average players but the problem is that theyd take our star players, who'd definitely on start most of the p5 teams.

derek carr/david fales, could have started for half the SEC and theyd have had to really consider it if the option was available to increase their stocks..and the line "do whats best for their family"wuld have come up.

whats stopping a Virginia tech or TCU who have dominant defenses but horrible offense especially at qb, from coming to shane carden or john okorn and saying you guys come play for us. the schools would definitely do it if that was available without a seconds hesitation

or to a pj walker, QB at temple, who had a great individual rookie season, but the overall temple team blew last year and saying to him come to this P5 team where you dont have to carry the team, and he honestly have to consider that, for his future draft/ potential Heisman/accolade possibilities

we could end up a farm system for the P5 if the transfer rule is changed

I've had a few discussion with other MW fans and they seem to think and I think I can agree, is that not many G5 players will transfer unless they are going to get playing time. Why would Carr/Fales transfer to a P5 school only become a backup? No, they would have to be guaranteed a starting position to make the move. Besides even if they don't sit out a year, they still would sit out because they don't know the offensive plays and scheme.
I think there is a concern but only if the P5 school offering the best G5 athlete of a school a starting position.
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(07-13-2014 11:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I've had a few discussion with other MW fans and they seem to think and I think I can agree, is that not many G5 players will transfer unless they are going to get playing time. Why would Carr/Fales transfer to a P5 school only become a backup? No, they would have to be guaranteed a starting position to make the move. Besides even if they don't sit out a year, they still would sit out because they don't know the offensive plays and scheme.
I think there is a concern but only if the P5 school offering the best G5 athlete of a school a starting position.

look at graduate transfers, which has limits as is aswell..houston lost its best player to WVU pre-season last year..

they arent going to go to a team that have a 3 year senior starters.. you are acting like every p5 is stacked at Every position. most transfer who were starters elsewhere tend to be given first shot at starting in their new schools even if they arent good (look at qb danny obrien from maryland when he went to wisconsin, or jake heaps in his numerous transfers). they are going to go to teams that need their position, example like i had before would be a virgina tech or tcu which are projected stacked teams everywhere except at qb. colleges are desperate to win they will do whatever they can to make that happen including taking other schools players if that was an option, they have no limitions on taking our coaches and now outside of boise for a while, none of our teams can keep a successful football coach beyond 4 years. similar results will happen with players

and you are completely looking at it from a 3rd person point of view which is completely the wrong view to look at it. you are seeing why would they give up a starting gig to potentially not be the starter elsewhere (wrong view)..the right view is how they see themselves "im extremely goods at what i do and i can start wherever i go, and im going to go to a big school to show i can compete with the big boys and increase my stock"

the biggest knock on non P5 athletes is "competition". players that are given lower second to 5th round draft grades will definitely be able to find teams they have an extremely high chance to start for. teams will definitely do it for chance to win (thats without question) and players will do it for better opportunity despite the risk. again whats stoping lorenzo doss, a highly touted CB from tulane from going to a better power and increasing his draft stock? if he was given the option
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This week July 15, Cincinnati and SMU ( on rivals & scout) still leading the recruiting rankings, however, many schools have few recruits committed, so rankings are very skewed toward those with the larger number of commits. SMU going very heavy with WRs. Wish we'd pick up some highly ranked meanies for the trenches.
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(07-15-2014 03:25 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  This week July 15, Cincinnati and SMU ( on rivals & scout) still leading the recruiting rankings, however, many schools have few recruits committed, so rankings are very skewed toward those with the larger number of commits. SMU going very heavy with WRs. Wish we'd pick up some highly ranked meanies for the trenches.

Yup. It's useless to look at recruiting rankings right now. USF has the best average player ranking, but since they only have 5 commits right now, they're at the bottom of the list.
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Titus Davis committed to UCF. Huge pick up.
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(07-17-2014 08:21 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Titus Davis committed to UCF. Huge pick up.

I don't much about this kid, could you post in our forum some details if you don't mind?
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(07-17-2014 10:30 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(07-17-2014 08:21 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Titus Davis committed to UCF. Huge pick up.

I don't much about this kid, could you post in our forum some details if you don't mind?
He was our top target at DE. 24/7 has him as a top 50 SDE nationally.

He has offers from Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Indiana, Iowa State, Purdue, and Charlotte.

He's a huge grab for us defensively.
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Supposedly he committed June 5th and wanted to wait until after his unofficial. We might have picked up bell who just decommited from Tulane


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UCF flipped Cincinnati commit Quinton Hampton. He's an OLB from Georgia.
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Ucf just flipped a cincy lb commit


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Temple reportedly flipped 4* NJ CB and Maryland commit Kareem Ali. Offers from Penn State, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, Florida, Louisville, Clemson, Duke, UConn, Michigan State, BC, GA Tech, Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, UNC, Northwestern, Virginia, Syracuse, Wisconsin, WVU, and Purdue. Obviously a huge pickup for us.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...Ali-138155
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(07-19-2014 04:43 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Temple reportedly flipped 4* NJ CB and Maryland commit Kareem Ali. Offers from Penn State, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, Florida, Louisville, Clemson, Duke, UConn, Michigan State, BC, GA Tech, Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, UNC, Northwestern, Virginia, Syracuse, Wisconsin, WVU, and Purdue. Obviously a huge pickup for us.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...Ali-138155

Wow! If true, nice!
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(07-19-2014 04:48 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(07-19-2014 04:43 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Temple reportedly flipped 4* NJ CB and Maryland commit Kareem Ali. Offers from Penn State, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, Florida, Louisville, Clemson, Duke, UConn, Michigan State, BC, GA Tech, Indiana, Iowa, Nebraska, UNC, Northwestern, Virginia, Syracuse, Wisconsin, WVU, and Purdue. Obviously a huge pickup for us.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...Ali-138155

Wow! If true, nice!

https://twitter.com/Kareem2Ali/status/49...0911280128
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