(04-09-2014 02:58 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 02:52 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 02:28 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  UConn has arguably the nicest football training facilities in the country.

Have you visited other facilities or are you just regurgitating the language on UConn's website and in their brochures?

The difference between UConn and Pitt's facilities is laughable. Pitt doesn't have their own stadium and the overall facilities are far beneath UConn. Take a peek for yourself:
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/facili...ities.html
http://www.uconnhuskies.com/facilities/

Let's not use facts or anything.

Respectable for sure, but nobody outside your fanbase would claim that UConn facilities are among the best (Texas, Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma State and others).

UConn can't hold a candle to those schools in football facilities. However, we would be no worse than average in the ACC for facilities. Facilities aren't the problem. Pasqualoni was the problem. That guy is a program killer. He set us back 15 years.

The biggest injustice is the B1g's picking rutgers over uconn.!!!!! Not the ACC's choices.

I don't think uconn will be in the American for too much longer, heck even the big12 may get jumpy now...??
FLossY out...

(04-09-2014 03:03 PM)HRFlossY Wrote:  The biggest injustice is the B1g's picking rutgers over uconn.!!!!! Not the ACC's choices.

I don't think uconn will be in the American for too much longer, heck even the big12 may get jumpy now...??
FLossY out...

Agree on Rutgers. Syracuse and UConn deliver the NYC market much more than Rutgers (even though Rutgers is closer to NYC).

(04-09-2014 02:52 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 02:28 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  UConn has arguably the nicest football training facilities in the country.

Have you visited other facilities or are you just regurgitating the language on UConn's website and in their brochures?

The difference between UConn and Pitt's facilities is laughable. Pitt doesn't have their own stadium and the overall facilities are far beneath UConn. Take a peek for yourself:
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/facili...ities.html
http://www.uconnhuskies.com/facilities/

Let's not use facts or anything.

That wasn't my question, but I now know the answer. You're obviously clueless and haven't been anywhere else.

BTW, Pitt's facilities are, overall, well above UConn's. Pitt has a better football stadium, better football practice facility, a better basketball arena, a better natatorium, better baseball/softball facilities (until you build a new one) which houses their own team support facilities, a dedicated volleyball/wrestling/gymnastics performance venue (which you don't have) housing a dedicated wrestling training facility and a dedicated olympic sports training facility, another, separate dedicated gymnastics training facility, and a full-sized indoor field (not used for football) that is reserved just for olympic sports. You will have a better basketball practice facility when it opens (at the moment, ours are housed in the Pete and need to be refurbished) and a better soccer facility. Pitt doesn't currently have is own dedicated track and field and tennis facilities, which is a major issue and under study, but the real issue is football.

(04-09-2014 03:01 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 02:58 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 02:52 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 02:28 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 01:49 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  UConn has arguably the nicest football training facilities in the country.

Have you visited other facilities or are you just regurgitating the language on UConn's website and in their brochures?

The difference between UConn and Pitt's facilities is laughable. Pitt doesn't have their own stadium and the overall facilities are far beneath UConn. Take a peek for yourself:
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/facili...ities.html
http://www.uconnhuskies.com/facilities/

Let's not use facts or anything.

Respectable for sure, but nobody outside your fanbase would claim that UConn facilities are among the best (Texas, Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma State and others).

UConn can't hold a candle to those schools in football facilities. However, we would be no worse than average in the ACC for facilities. Facilities aren't the problem. Pasqualoni was the problem. That guy is a program killer. He set us back 15 years.

Will you please make up your rabbit-assed mind?

You said:

Quote: UConn has arguably the nicest football training facilities in the country.

Then 9 posts later you say:

Quote:UConn can't hold a candle to those schools in football facilities. However, we would be no worse than average in the ACC for facilities.

Which is it? Is it arguably the nicest football training facilities in the country or average in the ACC?

Which current ACC programs have worse facilities than UConn?

This is all pointless. BC, GT, Clemson, and FSU are sufficient to prevent entry into the conference. I don't see VT or Miami as being enthused either.

(04-09-2014 04:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Which current ACC programs have worse facilities than UConn?

As far as football practice facilities, I'd say they're way better than Boston College, and also better than Syracuse (although they are building a new one), Virginia Tech (also building new), Miami (although I haven't seen their new facility), Wake, Duke (renovating things at Wallace Wade so we'll see). Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either. It is certainly may be average in the ACC now, but I don't know how long it is going to stay that way.

A simple survey of the options. The more + or - the bigger deal it is.


West Virginia:
+++ Good football program
++ Decent basketball program
+++ Geographic fit
++ Built in rivalries with VT and Pitt
+ Bolsters existing media markets of DC/Pittsburgh
----- Deplorable fan behavior
--- Bad academics.
----- No new major media markets delivered

Penn State:
+++ Good football team
+ Not a horrible basketball team
+ Decent academics
+++ Geographic fit
+ Built in rivalry with Pitt
+ Bolsters several media markets (DC, Pittsburgh, Harrisonburg, Philly, NYC)
----- Delivers no new media markets
---- Pedo State

Tennessee:
++ Good football
++ Good basketball
++ Good geographic fit
+++++ Delivers major new media markets (Nashville, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Kingsport/Johnson City)
+ Seems like it should be an easy rivalry to create with VT/UNC/GT
- So-So Academics

Cincinnati
+++ Great geographic fit
++++ Delivers new media market (Cincinnati ... I don't think they can deliver much more than that (Dayton/Columbus/etc) though)
+ Decent academics
++ Natural rivalry with Pitt/UofL
++ Great basketball
+ Okay football
--- Hugely overshadowed in state
----- Poor football following

Texas:
++++ Outstanding football
++ Pretty good basketball
+ Decent academics
+++++ Delivers several major new media markets (DFW, Austin, Waco, Houston, San Antonio)
----- Makes no geographic sense what so ever ... travel on non-revenue sports will suck
---- No natural rivals


There is no point in others and I'm not interested in partial members. If I could wave my magic wand ... I'd have Notre Dame join as a full member and have Tennessee as #16. I think both would be worth more than $40m annually.

I understand and pretty much agree with the reasons UCONN football is perceived as unacceptable to our football focused brethren.

My question is could rolling out the ACC network open the door a crack for our northern Husky friends? UCONN does have a strong athletic department overall, so that is more content for the network. Plus, they would help with carriage in NYC and the northeast. Does any of that help their case?

(04-09-2014 05:01 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either.

The Brock Indoor Facility at Rose Bowl Field is simple but functional. It also isn't a full field (missing one endzone?) due to the space constrictions.





http://www.ramblinwreck.com/ot/brock-pra...ility.html

http://philanthropy.gatech.edu/building/...e-facility

(04-09-2014 05:01 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 04:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Which current ACC programs have worse facilities than UConn?

As far as football practice facilities, I'd say they're way better than Boston College, and also better than Syracuse (although they are building a new one), Virginia Tech (also building new), Miami (although I haven't seen their new facility), Wake, Duke (renovating things at Wallace Wade so we'll see). Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either. It is certainly may be average in the ACC now, but I don't know how long it is going to stay that way.

Wake has outstanding football facilities. The Pruitt Center is first class, and the only drawback to BB&T Stadium is the size.

Miami just finished a new first class athletic center and is planning on a $7 million upgrade to their practice fields.

GT has a fairly new indoor practice facility (completed in 2011) and an excellent strength facility.

Syracuse and Virginia Tech as noted are either in the process of building or have in-depth plans for new facilities.

So now we are to the point where the only two for sure that UConn outclasses is BC and Duke.

(04-09-2014 05:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:01 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 04:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Which current ACC programs have worse facilities than UConn?

As far as football practice facilities, I'd say they're way better than Boston College, and also better than Syracuse (although they are building a new one), Virginia Tech (also building new), Miami (although I haven't seen their new facility), Wake, Duke (renovating things at Wallace Wade so we'll see). Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either. It is certainly may be average in the ACC now, but I don't know how long it is going to stay that way.

Wake has outstanding football facilities. The Pruitt Center is first class, and the only drawback to BB&T Stadium is the size.

Miami just finished a new first class athletic center and is planning on a $7 million upgrade to their practice fields.

GT has a fairly new indoor practice facility (completed in 2011) and an excellent strength facility.

Syracuse and Virginia Tech as noted are either in the process of building or have in-depth plans for new facilities.

So now we are to the point where the only two for sure that UConn outclasses is BC and Duke.

Really? BC has a very nice on-campus FB stadium. Uconn plays in a smaller off campus stadium, 23 miles from campus, that sits literally at the end of an old airport runway. BC has a state-of-the-art football building, as does Uconn. BC does not yet have a permanent indoor FB practice facility (currently has the "bubble" for the FB offseason in Alumni Stadium) However, this will be resolved soon as BC is expected to announce the construction of a new indoor FB practice building, from everything we have been hearing.

(04-09-2014 05:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:01 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 04:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Which current ACC programs have worse facilities than UConn?

As far as football practice facilities, I'd say they're way better than Boston College, and also better than Syracuse (although they are building a new one), Virginia Tech (also building new), Miami (although I haven't seen their new facility), Wake, Duke (renovating things at Wallace Wade so we'll see). Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either. It is certainly may be average in the ACC now, but I don't know how long it is going to stay that way.

Wake has outstanding football facilities. The Pruitt Center is first class, and the only drawback to BB&T Stadium is the size.

Miami just finished a new first class athletic center and is planning on a $7 million upgrade to their practice fields.

GT has a fairly new indoor practice facility (completed in 2011) and an excellent strength facility.

Syracuse and Virginia Tech as noted are either in the process of building or have in-depth plans for new facilities.

So now we are to the point where the only two for sure that UConn outclasses is BC and Duke.

I think the Pruitt center is sort of pedestrian. The outdoor fields are nice, but Wake also lacks an indoor facility if I remember correctly. I do think UConn's practice facilities are nicer. Wake's stadium is definitely nice, even if small.

(04-09-2014 06:26 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:01 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 04:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Which current ACC programs have worse facilities than UConn?

As far as football practice facilities, I'd say they're way better than Boston College, and also better than Syracuse (although they are building a new one), Virginia Tech (also building new), Miami (although I haven't seen their new facility), Wake, Duke (renovating things at Wallace Wade so we'll see). Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either. It is certainly may be average in the ACC now, but I don't know how long it is going to stay that way.

Wake has outstanding football facilities. The Pruitt Center is first class, and the only drawback to BB&T Stadium is the size.

Miami just finished a new first class athletic center and is planning on a $7 million upgrade to their practice fields.

GT has a fairly new indoor practice facility (completed in 2011) and an excellent strength facility.

Syracuse and Virginia Tech as noted are either in the process of building or have in-depth plans for new facilities.

So now we are to the point where the only two for sure that UConn outclasses is BC and Duke.

Really? BC has a very nice on-campus FB stadium. Uconn plays in a smaller off campus stadium, 23 miles from campus, that sits literally at the end of an old airport runway. BC has a state-of-the-art football building, as does Uconn. BC does not yet have a permanent indoor FB practice facility (currently has the "bubble" for the FB offseason in Alumni Stadium) However, this will be resolved soon as BC is expected to announce the construction of a new indoor FB practice building, from everything we have been hearing.

We're mainly talking practice facilities. The Rent is certainly one of the worst football stadiums, probably the worst one in the ACC although the Dome is pretty bad (Wallace Wade's upgrade was desperately needed too, so we'll see how that turns out). But BC needs to build practice facilities like 10 years ago. The bubble is a joke. While were at it, I've never been a fan of Conte either, from a basketball perspective.

(04-09-2014 05:35 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:01 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either.

The Brock Indoor Facility at Rose Bowl Field is simple but functional. It also isn't a full field (missing one endzone?) due to the space constrictions.





http://www.ramblinwreck.com/ot/brock-pra...ility.html

http://philanthropy.gatech.edu/building/...e-facility

Thanks. It's tough for urban schools. That's why Pitt decided to move its practice and football operations off-campus even before the decision was made the tear down the on-campus stadium. The UPMC Sports Performance Complex that Pitt shares with the Steelers sits about 1 mile from the heart of the campus, across the Hot Metal Bridge, is about 40 acres in total. (UPMC=University of Pittsburgh Medical Center). It comprises a 125K indoor facility that includes a full-sized indoor practice field and fitness training center, the 100K square foot Pitt/Steelers operations/sports training center, a 40K square foot UPMC Center for Sports Medicine facility, and four 80-yard outdoor practice fields. When it was built in 1999, it set the industry standard (and the medical center built it as a showcase as it is consistently regarded in the top 5 of sports medicine programs in the country), but now is getting old and they are talking about plowing some more money into it, although Pitt just redid their entire side of the football operations a couple years ago. It is the only joint NFL-college facility in the country too, and they had to get special dispensation from the NCAA to build it, and that has also seemed to serve as a recruiting advantage. BTW, our medical center is now building a 184K square foot training center for the Penguins out in the suburbs and will be the first medical facility in the country to focus on hockey-specific training and injury.

(04-09-2014 03:03 PM)HRFlossY Wrote:  The biggest injustice is the B1g's picking rutgers over uconn.!!!!! Not the ACC's choices.

I don't think uconn will be in the American for too much longer, heck even the big12 may get jumpy now...??
FLossY out...

sorry but RU has academic potential in the b10 whereas uconn doesn't.

before huskies fans go citing USNRW rankings go recheck your endowment & enrollment and compare them to the b10.

(04-09-2014 05:23 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If I could wave my magic wand ... I'd have Notre Dame join as a full member and have Tennessee as #16. I think both would be worth more than $40m annually.

Could we make that Notre Dame and Auburn, please?

(for that matter, Tenn. AND Auburn, with Notre Dame remaining partial)

(04-09-2014 05:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  ...we are to the point where the only two for sure that UConn outclasses is BC and Duke.

Don't forget Duke just got a new indoor practice facility! (Their stadium still stinks though)

(04-09-2014 06:59 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 06:26 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 05:01 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 04:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Which current ACC programs have worse facilities than UConn?

As far as football practice facilities, I'd say they're way better than Boston College, and also better than Syracuse (although they are building a new one), Virginia Tech (also building new), Miami (although I haven't seen their new facility), Wake, Duke (renovating things at Wallace Wade so we'll see). Maybe Georgia Tech, I haven't seen their facility either. It is certainly may be average in the ACC now, but I don't know how long it is going to stay that way.

Wake has outstanding football facilities. The Pruitt Center is first class, and the only drawback to BB&T Stadium is the size.

Miami just finished a new first class athletic center and is planning on a $7 million upgrade to their practice fields.

GT has a fairly new indoor practice facility (completed in 2011) and an excellent strength facility.

Syracuse and Virginia Tech as noted are either in the process of building or have in-depth plans for new facilities.

So now we are to the point where the only two for sure that UConn outclasses is BC and Duke.

Really? BC has a very nice on-campus FB stadium. Uconn plays in a smaller off campus stadium, 23 miles from campus, that sits literally at the end of an old airport runway. BC has a state-of-the-art football building, as does Uconn. BC does not yet have a permanent indoor FB practice facility (currently has the "bubble" for the FB offseason in Alumni Stadium) However, this will be resolved soon as BC is expected to announce the construction of a new indoor FB practice building, from everything we have been hearing.

We're mainly talking practice facilities. The Rent is certainly one of the worst football stadiums, probably the worst one in the ACC although the Dome is pretty bad (Wallace Wade's upgrade was desperately needed too, so we'll see how that turns out). But BC needs to build practice facilities like 10 years ago. The bubble is a joke. While were at it, I've never been a fan of Conte either, from a basketball perspective.

How's the Dome bad? There literally isn't a bad view in the stadium. The only knock on it is bench seats.