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RE: More Thoughts About B12 Adding UCF/USF
ASU has 3 huge regional campuses in Phoenix but they only count the main campus. That's why they are they are the real largest university.
Counting anything but the main campus is just trying to inflate numbers.
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RE: More Thoughts About B12 Adding UCF/USF
regional campuses. now we know how deep realinement really is
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RE: More Thoughts About B12 Adding UCF/USF
(07-14-2014 07:48 AM)10thMountain Wrote: ASU has 3 huge regional campuses in Phoenix but they only count the main campus. That's why they are they are the real largest university.
Counting anything but the main campus is just trying to inflate numbers.
says the Aggie that comes from a school that counts Galveston and now the medical campuses in Houston, Temple, Bryan, dallas, Kingsville, Round Rock and the Fort Worth Law School
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RE: More Thoughts About B12 Adding UCF/USF
(07-14-2014 05:16 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote: (07-13-2014 09:16 PM)bullet Wrote: (07-13-2014 07:08 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote: (07-12-2014 03:57 PM)bullet Wrote: (07-12-2014 12:17 PM)Knightsweat Wrote: This whole argument is a disagreement on use of terms. A "directional school" would become a flagship school given the chance at the P5. The actual name doesn't matter. The state name or population doesn't matter. Acceptance matters. UCF/USF would blow up as a tandem deal, and a lot of P5 schools know it, hence the exclusionary tactics.
No. A directional school doesn't become a flagship just by being in the P5. ToddDodge is mostly correct. Every public school in the P5 is a flagship except for Louisville, Florida State AND Texas Tech.
Texas Tech is not considered a flagship in Texas. There wasn't even a Texas Tech "system" until they added their medical school. And they just recently added Angelo St. from the Texas St. system into their "system" so they now has 2 schools and a medical school. Houston isn't considered a flagship in Texas even though there are 3 other schools in their "system" anymore than Lamar University was considered a flagship when they had a 3 school system.
The normally accepted definition includes as flagships the historical leading liberal arts school and the land grant university, if that is a separate school (which as mentioned except in a few states like Ohio and Louisiana it is). Georgia is one exception in that UGA is the liberal arts and land grant school while Georgia Tech was set up as the engineering "flagship," or as referred to in Athens, "that trade school on North Avenue."
Who gives a rats rumpass? UCF is bigger than your state flagship U. No matter what state. UCF is the largest university in the nation.
University of Phoenix? Are they a national flagship?
Ucf is no more like University of Phoenix than the University of Texas is. Every single University that I'm aware of has regional campuses. Including the University of Florida, and UT, so what's your point, don't those students who attend regional campuses count, or are you just jealous your school has three less regional campuses?
Most schools don't have regional campuses, although many have separate research facilities. The University of Texas doesn't have any regional campuses. There are separate universities within the University of Texas system, but those are no more part of UT than UCLA is part of UC-Berkeley. Noone claims the 150k+ students in the University of Texas system are part of one university. (note-I'm not opining on your including them with UCF-I'm not familiar with them).
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