army56mike Wrote:

army56mike Wrote:

army56mike Wrote:1- Ohio St. (B10)
16 - MTSU (SB)

8- Boise St. (WAC)
9- Arkansas (at large)

5- LSU (at large)
12- Oklahoma (B12)

4- Florida (SEC)
13- BYU (MWC)

3- Michigan (at large)
14- C. Michigan (MAC)

6- Louisville (BE)
11- Ga. Tech (ACC)

7- Wisconsin (at large)
10- Notre Shame (at large)

2- USC (P10)
15- S. Miss (C-USA)

You have the conference Champs plus at large bids. If you took the Top 16 BCS teams this is who got left out when you include Conf. Champs outside the BCS Top 16... Auburn, Rutgers, Va. Tech, WVU and Tennessee. They are all fairly competitive games as far as I can see. It's kind of like the #1 & 2 seeds have byes. Let all the teams not involved in the playoff go to other bowls that aren't included in the BCS playoff.

Ohio St. wins their 1st rounder in the Hoosier Bowl.
Arkansas wins their 1st rounder in the Cotton Bowl.

Oklahoma wins their 1st rounder in the Alamo Bowl.
Florida wins their 1st rounder in the Gator Bowl.

C. Michigan upsets Michigan in the Motor City Bowl.
Louisville wins their 1st rounder in the Music City Bowl.

Notre Shame wins their 1st rounder in the Liberty Bowl.
USC wins their 1st rounder in the Holiday Bowl.

Ohio St. wins the quarterfinal in the Sugar Bowl.
Florida wins the quarterfinal in the Orange Bowl.

Louisville wins the quarterfinal in the Gator Bowl.
USC wins the quarterfinal in the Rose Bowl.

Ohio St. wins the semi in the ? Bowl.
Louisville wins the semi in the Fiesta Bowl.

Proposal: 16-team playoff: Conference champions (only if they are in the Top 25 of the final BCS) plus wild cards. BCS Conference champions in the Top 10 are seeded first and remaining teams are seeded in order of BCS finish (with some tweaking to avoid intraconference and rematch games).

1. Ohio State
16. BYU

8. LSU
9. Boise State

5. Oklahoma
12. Arkansas

4. Louisville
13. Wake Forest

3. USC
14. West Virginia

6. Michigan
11. Auburn

7. Wisconsin
10. Notre Dame

2. Florida
15. Virginia Tech

Zibby, there is a flaw in your playoff. I can't agree with not taking the Conference Champ if they are out of the BCS Top 25. That still leaves much of the decision making up to the pollsters and takes it out of the hands of the kids on the field. It is still subjective. For a true champ to be crowned all conference Champs must be included, even if they are not very good. Otherwise you are going to have coaches and writers positioning votes, just like you do now.

The Sun Belt is an absolutely horrendous conference. They don't deserve an automatic bid, so there has to be some kind of minimum standard for conferences to reach. The MAC and C-DOA didn't do enough to earn a spot, either.

Oh, stop it! A true playoff woul have to include all 11 D1 champions!

zibby Wrote:The Sun Belt is an absolutely horrendous conference. They don't deserve an automatic bid, so there has to be some kind of minimum standard for conferences to reach. The MAC and C-DOA didn't do enough to earn a spot, either.

I don't disagree with you. There is not a competitive team from those conferences this year. However, in future years that may not be true. Look, Boise St. and the WAC weren't always world beaters. C-USA with UofL and TCU was pretty good. I'm just saying they can become competitive conferences, but will still be left in the cold by pollsters. I really think all must have an opportunity to reach for THE DREAM.

Wilkie01 Wrote:Oh, stop it! A true playoff woul have to include all 11 D1 champions!

On a board popular among fans of I-AA, there's been some talk of the strongest A-10/CAA and Southern teams getting together and forming a new I-A conference. There's also been some talk in the past about the Big Sky moving up as a group to I-A. It's probably just Internet fodder, but if it happened, should they get automatic bids, too? Allowing any pack of scrubs calling itself a I-A conference into the playoffs would dilute the playoffs and ruin I-AA football.

army56mike Wrote:There is not a competitive team from those conferences this year. However, in future years that may not be true.

And if that team finishes in the Top 25, they're in. This system doesn't exclude by conference name, but by how good the champion is. Pollsters and computers have proven that they'll rank mid-major teams highly. When Louisville was in C-DOA they made it into the Top 25 and when Marshall was in the MAC they did as well. This year, those conferences didn't make the cut.

The NCAA basketball tourny didn't always include scrub teams either. Now they have that playin junk. It makes things more fair though. I'm not disputing that some teams don't belong. But it is great they are included and have a shot. Last year who would have thought GM belonged? If the Big Sky decided to rise up as a 1A conference I think it would be great. It would bring top notch football to a whole new section of the country. That is a good thing.

I think to have a true playoff you will have to include all the conference champions even if they are "not worthy." Basically I think you have the 11 conference champions as autobids, then 5 at larges on the BCS rankings. First rounds on campus sites, quarterfinals at the BCS bowl spots plus Dallas and Orlando. Semifinals at BCS spots, and championship rotate through the BCS spots.

Example for this year:

First Round at Campus Sites
#16 Central Michigan at #1 Ohio State
#9 Auburn at #8 Boise State
#11 Wake Forset at #5 LSU
#12 BYU at #4 USC
#11 Notre Dame at #6 Louisville
#14 Houston at #3 Michigan
#10 Oklahoma at #7 Wisconsin
#15 Troy at #2 Florida

Quarterfinals
Glendale, AZ
Dallas, TX
Orlando, FL
Miami, FL

Semifinals
Pasadena, CA
New Orleans, LA

National Championship
Glendale, AZ

I think this could work, the BCS bowl sites still get their "bowl games" and you can still keep the other bowls.