(01-25-2015 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Very few of us understand how expensive kids are when we have them.

If you and I are paying for someone else's kids then where is their incentive to understand how expensive kids are? All this country needs to do is kill the gravy train and so many problems will solve themselves.

Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

(01-25-2015 12:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Very few of us understand how expensive kids are when we have them.

If you and I are paying for someone else's kids then where is their incentive to understand how expensive kids are? All this country needs to do is kill the gravy train and so many problems will solve themselves.

I don't discount those that simply are leeches. That is for sure a problem.

(01-25-2015 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

Conservatives also understand it is irresponsible and outright criminal to gestate a child without being able to provide for it without stealing from others.

(01-25-2015 12:43 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  We need to focus more on the underlying causes of why people can not afford kids than the consequences of having them. Very few of us understand how expensive kids are when we have them.

The reason they can't afford them is that they have low paying jobs or they don't work at all. They're dumb a$$e$. But that doesn't stop them from multiplying.

"The great society" has set up this paradigm in which one is rewarded for making poor decisions in life.

(01-25-2015 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

Says the guy from the party of abortions. Oh, the irony.

I always found it funny that you have to have a license to cut hair, but you can pop out as many kids as you want with no restrictions.

(01-25-2015 05:52 PM)blah Wrote:  I always found it funny that you have to have a license to cut hair, but you can pop out as many kids as you want with no restrictions.

Yeah, it's pretty quick and easy to make a baby but quite another thing entirely to raise it responsibly and with love over time.

(01-25-2015 02:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

Conservatives also understand it is irresponsible and outright criminal to gestate a child without being able to provide for it without stealing from others.

I don't really think it is a conservative vs. liberal thing. My view on this is more in line with Fit's and I have never been mistaken for a liberal.

While I do look down on those that have kids and can't make it without government assistance, I also look down on those that can support a family and choose to never grow up. The problem is, what was supposed to be a safety net has become a full-time job of doing nothing. Get rid of welfare checks and let the parents go to a warehouse and pick up free diapers, wipes, formula, baby food etc. Taking people's children away (provided there is no evidence of abuse or neglect) or forcing contraception just doesn't sit well with me as a conservative. Deadbeat dads, however, should rot in jail.

Unprotected sex between people that aren't really in love is also a huge issue.

Keep in mind that a lot of this issue takes place in underprivileged neighborhoods. These people are not properly educated on what child-raising truly requires. In fact, a number of them are far too young to even be considering having a child.

(01-26-2015 08:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

Conservatives also understand it is irresponsible and outright criminal to gestate a child without being able to provide for it without stealing from others.

I don't really think it is a conservative vs. liberal thing. My view on this is more in line with Fit's and I have never been mistaken for a liberal.

While I do look down on those that have kids and can't make it without government assistance, I also look down on those that can support a family and choose to never grow up. The problem is, what was supposed to be a safety net has become a full-time job of doing nothing. Get rid of welfare checks and let the parents go to a warehouse and pick up free diapers, wipes, formula, baby food etc. Taking people's children away (provided there is no evidence of abuse or neglect) or forcing contraception just doesn't sit well with me as a conservative. Deadbeat dads, however, should rot in jail.

I like how your definition of growing up is having a child. Because going to work every day and supporting oneself isn't good enough.

(01-23-2015 11:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  How about if Moochelle makes the food choices for them? After a month or two these people will be too weak to do the dirty and have more kids.

That is a fantastic idea.

(01-26-2015 12:04 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 08:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

Conservatives also understand it is irresponsible and outright criminal to gestate a child without being able to provide for it without stealing from others.

I don't really think it is a conservative vs. liberal thing. My view on this is more in line with Fit's and I have never been mistaken for a liberal.

While I do look down on those that have kids and can't make it without government assistance, I also look down on those that can support a family and choose to never grow up. The problem is, what was supposed to be a safety net has become a full-time job of doing nothing. Get rid of welfare checks and let the parents go to a warehouse and pick up free diapers, wipes, formula, baby food etc. Taking people's children away (provided there is no evidence of abuse or neglect) or forcing contraception just doesn't sit well with me as a conservative. Deadbeat dads, however, should rot in jail.

I like how your definition of growing up is having a child. Because going to work every day and supporting oneself isn't good enough.

It is my opinion that you don't grow up until you take on the ultimate responsibility. Anyone can get up and go to work everyday. Having a child requires sacrifice that many people today don't have the emotional or psychological strength to overcome.

(01-26-2015 12:11 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:04 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 08:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

Conservatives also understand it is irresponsible and outright criminal to gestate a child without being able to provide for it without stealing from others.

I don't really think it is a conservative vs. liberal thing. My view on this is more in line with Fit's and I have never been mistaken for a liberal.

While I do look down on those that have kids and can't make it without government assistance, I also look down on those that can support a family and choose to never grow up. The problem is, what was supposed to be a safety net has become a full-time job of doing nothing. Get rid of welfare checks and let the parents go to a warehouse and pick up free diapers, wipes, formula, baby food etc. Taking people's children away (provided there is no evidence of abuse or neglect) or forcing contraception just doesn't sit well with me as a conservative. Deadbeat dads, however, should rot in jail.

I like how your definition of growing up is having a child. Because going to work every day and supporting oneself isn't good enough.

It is my opinion that you don't grow up until you take on the ultimate responsibility. Anyone can get up and go to work everyday. Having a child requires sacrifice that many people today don't have the emotional or psychological strength to overcome.

Or the desire to clean **** off another person.

Who the hell can afford to have kids? They are expensive as fvck regardless of income.

(01-26-2015 12:12 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Who the hell can afford to have kids? They are expensive as fvck regardless of income.

My income is relatively modest and I can afford it just fine.

(01-26-2015 08:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:20 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the gift of life. If you think otherwise then maybe you aren't conservative.

Conservatives also understand it is irresponsible and outright criminal to gestate a child without being able to provide for it without stealing from others.

I don't really think it is a conservative vs. liberal thing. My view on this is more in line with Fit's and I have never been mistaken for a liberal.

While I do look down on those that have kids and can't make it without government assistance, I also look down on those that can support a family and choose to never grow up. The problem is, what was supposed to be a safety net has become a full-time job of doing nothing. Get rid of welfare checks and let the parents go to a warehouse and pick up free diapers, wipes, formula, baby food etc. Taking people's children away (provided there is no evidence of abuse or neglect) or forcing contraception just doesn't sit well with me as a conservative. Deadbeat dads, however, should rot in jail.

First you have to find them. In order to do that, the mom needs to know who the dad was. It's a lose/lose situation that is far beyond control now. The only to fix it is to make people act responsibly, but when you try to do that, people call you a bigot and a racist and say you're just trying to oppress them.

Wow. Sterilizing a population because they're poor. Who the hell voted for that?

(01-26-2015 12:12 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:11 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:04 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 08:36 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Conservatives also understand it is irresponsible and outright criminal to gestate a child without being able to provide for it without stealing from others.

I don't really think it is a conservative vs. liberal thing. My view on this is more in line with Fit's and I have never been mistaken for a liberal.

While I do look down on those that have kids and can't make it without government assistance, I also look down on those that can support a family and choose to never grow up. The problem is, what was supposed to be a safety net has become a full-time job of doing nothing. Get rid of welfare checks and let the parents go to a warehouse and pick up free diapers, wipes, formula, baby food etc. Taking people's children away (provided there is no evidence of abuse or neglect) or forcing contraception just doesn't sit well with me as a conservative. Deadbeat dads, however, should rot in jail.

I like how your definition of growing up is having a child. Because going to work every day and supporting oneself isn't good enough.

It is my opinion that you don't grow up until you take on the ultimate responsibility. Anyone can get up and go to work everyday. Having a child requires sacrifice that many people today don't have the emotional or psychological strength to overcome.

Or the desire to clean **** off another person.

Someone cleaned schit off you one day too. I'll tell you it's much easier to clean schit off your baby than your parent or grandparent.

(01-26-2015 12:16 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Wow. Sterilizing a population because they're poor. Who the hell voted for that?

Temporary, not permanent. Essentially, tie the birth control shot to the payment. If you cannot afford your current kids then you damn sure don't need any more.