(06-15-2015 09:24 PM)GTFletch Wrote: (06-15-2015 04:49 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: (06-15-2015 03:22 PM)GTFletch Wrote: (06-15-2015 03:08 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: (06-15-2015 02:45 PM)GTFletch Wrote: OK...Here we go.... next year it will be announced (VIA TAX return) that some ACC Schools (bowl eligible) were close to 30M....I am guessing 28-29M..
Ok were do I get this information from....
First the ACC made 83.5 from the CFP, and the ACC only distributes that to the 11 bowl teams...
Link
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/...e-payouts/
Second GT budgeted 23M from the ACC, the year before they budgeted 17.9 but tax return shows 19.2M.... SO lets say that GT was smoking crack and they only get 22M you ad that plus 6 Million (1.5Million for travel) is 28M....
Not to shabby for a conf without their own network..... I bet FSU is over the 30M..
Link
http://georgiatech.blog.ajc.com/2014/07/...ch-budget/
The ACC's bowl distribution formula is an equal distribution after some travel and expense money is doled out - in 13/14 there were 13 teams in the distribution Syracuse and Pitt in - MD - out. In 14/15 where the league made $83.5 million that is split 14 ways after schools like GT and FSU get a travel and expense check.
OK Fixed.... so basically 28M... only 3 million behind SEC without a network....interesting..
My god, why are you not using GT's tax return figure if you're using the SEC's?
GT's 2013-14 tax return said $19.2M. The AJC article says GT expects a $3M bump due to the CFP and $1M bump in ESPN money. Throw in $1.5M for ACC CG/Orange Bowl travel expenses and you're at $24.7M.
How hard was that?
It also says that there won't be a $1M bump next year because losing the Orange Bowl revenue will negate the increased ESPN revenue. So if GT makes an NY6 Bowl again, they'll make ~$24.7M again. Problem with that is that the SEC will be increasing revenue simply by playing in the Sugar Bowl. That's not including SECN increases or an increase in their ESPN deal. So that $31M could easily jump to $34M+.
Also, you say "Fixed", but what did you "fix"? You're still saying $28M after saying $28M earlier. So nothing seems to have changed despite you not dividing the CFP revenue properly.
Somebody is "smoking crack", indeed.
OK...lets say the 2014-15 tax return shows that the TV money is 24.7M.....Then please divide the 83.5M from the CFP against 14 teams...that is 5.9M....add 24.7M and 4.9(less1M for travel) for a total of 29.6M for Bowl teams....
So what is your beef??? I said between 28-29M...which is less than 31.2M from SEC....(just not as much of a gap as the SEC kool aid drinking folks like to say there is)
All of the below has been repeatedly discussed in this thread (and others). I'll say it once more.
Not all of the $83.5M from the CFP is new money. The ACC was already receiving BCS money last year, which is what the CFP replaced. The ACC took home nice BCS paychecks from the BCS CG and Orange Bowl in 2013-14. So the working figure that's been used in this thread is $50M in new CFP revenue, which equates to $3.3M/school in new CFP revenue. If you want to make it $55M (meaning the ACC received $28.5M from the final year of the BCS) go for it. That $55M divided in 15 is $3.7M.
GT's own budget - per the link YOU provided - shows they are expecting a $3M bump from the CFP. You cannot include that $3M in the $24.7M figure and then include your ridiculous $4.9M figure on top of that. That's more than double-counting that money.
The 2013-14 tax returns show an average of $19.3M/school. That doesn't include $11M in travel reimbursements, which comes out to less than $800K/school. Add in $1M for the ESPN deal. Add in another $3.7M for the CFP. You get $24.8M/school.
If you come up with any figure that's not reasonably close to that, you've likely made an error.
It's beyond absurd that you literally just said the ACC will receive $29.6M/school this year, only $1.6M/school less than the SEC, despite being roughly that far behind the SEC last year and the SEC receiving an additional $5M+/school this year from the SECN.
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And if we are including the $11M for the ACC average that was withheld from bowl payouts/traveling expenses, then we must also include the $19M that was withheld by the SEC in 2014-15. That's $1.4M/school.
But having looked at some articles reporting the 2014-15 SEC revenue while trying to find their bowl/reimbursement figure, I've also come to the conclusion that their $31.2M figure is more math errors by "journalists". I'm pretty sure the SEC office also receives a share, much like the ACC. However, in none of the articles I've read is that accounted for. They also seem to mistakenly refer to the conference's total revenue as the total amount "distributed".
They had $455.8M in revenue and are distributing $436.8M of that, per reports. IF you divide that $436.8M by 14 you have $31.2M/school. They also report the $19M retained from the bowls. But 436.8 + 19 is 455.8M. That would leave nothing for the SEC office. And, as I've said about Swofford, Slive wasn't working for free. So I think a more accurate figure would be $436.8M / 15 = $29.1M/school. Then add in the $1.4M/school from their bowl reimbursements ($19M/14), and you get $30.5M/school. It's roughly $700K/school less than media are seemingly inaccurately reporting.
2014-15 payouts
ACC: $24.7M/school ?
SEC: $30.5M/school
2015-16 payouts
ACC: $24.0M/school ? (including ESPN contract annual increase and the loss of at least $23.5M in CFP/Orange Bowl money)
SEC: $31.3M/school ? (only including an increase of $12.5M in Sugar Bowl money, not including SECN gains or ESPN contract annual increase)
