(06-18-2015 04:24 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  So should we just look at overall murder rates then?

They are much higher in the US than in Europe regardless of weapon.

(08-18-2015 12:05 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 12:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 10:16 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 06:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I've played countless hours of COD and I never have been an aggressive person.

If real guns don't kill people then certainly imaginary ones don't either.

Well **** me, we agree on something.

at first glance, it's a 'holy shite, he got one right' moment.....

but he was really fk'n with ya....

troll rules are not part of the aup.....

they just roll to the tune of the troll.....it's not hard to figure out...

he's a lyin' sac of frumunda.....

I just wonder how many times I've killed him in COD multiplayer....

pick me, pick me (annoying hand held up in the air)

EVERY TIME

(08-18-2015 12:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:24 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  So should we just look at overall murder rates then?

They are much higher in the US than in Europe regardless of weapon.

Are they still much higher if you don't include gun murders?

(06-21-2015 10:10 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm still trying to figure out how 3/100k isn't an acceptable number.

what is an acceptable number? 2.3, 1.8, 0.7?

time to go to the back 40 and pop a few rounds....

No joke.

The bar graph in the OP should first be scaled by a bar that represents 100k people, to give it some perspective. Then, the next bar over could be the microscopic bar (3/100k) that represents the USA's gun crime, and the next fractionally smaller, but still microscopic bar (0.75/100k) representing Switzerland's gun crime, etc.

(08-18-2015 12:05 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 12:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 10:16 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 06:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I've played countless hours of COD and I never have been an aggressive person.

If real guns don't kill people then certainly imaginary ones don't either.

Well **** me, we agree on something.

at first glance, it's a 'holy shite, he got one right' moment.....

but he was really fk'n with ya....

troll rules are not part of the aup.....

they just roll to the tune of the troll.....it's not hard to figure out...

he's a lyin' sac of frumunda.....

I just wonder how many times I've killed him in COD multiplayer....

I'm pretty awesome. If you want to find out, look me up. I'm fitbuddy there too.

(08-18-2015 05:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 12:05 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 12:50 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 10:16 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 06:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I've played countless hours of COD and I never have been an aggressive person.

If real guns don't kill people then certainly imaginary ones don't either.

Well **** me, we agree on something.

at first glance, it's a 'holy shite, he got one right' moment.....

but he was really fk'n with ya....

troll rules are not part of the aup.....

they just roll to the tune of the troll.....it's not hard to figure out...

he's a lyin' sac of frumunda.....

I just wonder how many times I've killed him in COD multiplayer....

I'm pretty awesome. If you want to find out, look me up. I'm fitbuddy there too.

I don't have high speed internet anymore so haven't played in a few years.

(08-18-2015 07:56 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Please note that the CDC and FBI show that Youth Violence has gone down considerably since 1994.

CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml...mm6227a1_w

FBI:
http://johnjayresearch.org/rec/files/201...201304.pdf

Then please notice the consumption of video games as displayed by this chart using NPD Data (industry data).




Video game consumption has gone up and youth violence has gone down.... interesting...

I keeps them busy... and dumb.

(08-18-2015 06:48 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 07:56 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Please note that the CDC and FBI show that Youth Violence has gone down considerably since 1994.

CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml...mm6227a1_w

FBI:
http://johnjayresearch.org/rec/files/201...201304.pdf

Then please notice the consumption of video games as displayed by this chart using NPD Data (industry data).




Video game consumption has gone up and youth violence has gone down.... interesting...

I keeps them busy... and dumb.

Maybe it keeps them away from all the violence on TV which leads them to a life of crime.

(08-18-2015 01:06 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 12:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:24 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  So should we just look at overall murder rates then?

They are much higher in the US than in Europe regardless of weapon.

Are they still much higher if you don't include gun murders?

Hard to get comparable year data, but it looks like our murder rate without guns is higher than many of these countries total rates.

(08-18-2015 06:48 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 07:56 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Please note that the CDC and FBI show that Youth Violence has gone down considerably since 1994.

CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml...mm6227a1_w

FBI:
http://johnjayresearch.org/rec/files/201...201304.pdf

Then please notice the consumption of video games as displayed by this chart using NPD Data (industry data).




Video game consumption has gone up and youth violence has gone down.... interesting...

I keeps them busy... and dumb.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the...nnectivity

You were saying?

(08-18-2015 01:27 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 10:10 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm still trying to figure out how 3/100k isn't an acceptable number.

what is an acceptable number? 2.3, 1.8, 0.7?

time to go to the back 40 and pop a few rounds....

No joke.

The bar graph in the OP should first be scaled by a bar that represents 100k people, to give it some perspective. Then, the next bar over could be the microscopic bar (3/100k) that represents the USA's gun crime, and the next fractionally smaller, but still microscopic bar (0.75/100k) representing Switzerland's gun crime, etc.

you are one of the sane people......the graph is a joke and is color coded so it stands out as a 'problem'....

fk'n people.....

it's why I can't watch the news.....

I get enough right here

(08-19-2015 09:35 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 01:27 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 10:10 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm still trying to figure out how 3/100k isn't an acceptable number.

what is an acceptable number? 2.3, 1.8, 0.7?

time to go to the back 40 and pop a few rounds....

No joke.

The bar graph in the OP should first be scaled by a bar that represents 100k people, to give it some perspective. Then, the next bar over could be the microscopic bar (3/100k) that represents the USA's gun crime, and the next fractionally smaller, but still microscopic bar (0.75/100k) representing Switzerland's gun crime, etc.

you are one of the sane people......the graph is a joke and is color coded so it stands out as a 'problem'....

fk'n people.....

it's why I can't watch the news.....

I get enough right here

Here we go. It's an epidemic, I tell you.

(08-19-2015 09:48 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-19-2015 09:35 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-18-2015 01:27 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 10:10 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm still trying to figure out how 3/100k isn't an acceptable number.

what is an acceptable number? 2.3, 1.8, 0.7?

time to go to the back 40 and pop a few rounds....

No joke.

The bar graph in the OP should first be scaled by a bar that represents 100k people, to give it some perspective. Then, the next bar over could be the microscopic bar (3/100k) that represents the USA's gun crime, and the next fractionally smaller, but still microscopic bar (0.75/100k) representing Switzerland's gun crime, etc.

you are one of the sane people......the graph is a joke and is color coded so it stands out as a 'problem'....

fk'n people.....

it's why I can't watch the news.....

I get enough right here

Here we go. It's an epidemic, I tell you.

this is the kinda shite I show my daughter......she laughs at me and goes, "dad.....dad....dad......I know dammit" with those beautiful blue eyes fluttering.....she's now gotten bold enough to say that too......I love that girl.....

(08-19-2015 10:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

she'll love bitter clingers.....she'll get it....

kudos and