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(10-28-2015 09:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I don't think any of the 3 that you are saying has varying levels of discontent will be gone this year. Iowa is undefeated. Indiana doing ok for themselves this year, and Nebraska 1st year coach.

Oh, I agree. Riley is too new at Nebraska to fire, Iowa is doing too well to fire Ferentz, and Indiana is moving upwards and probably will keep Wilson...if for nothing else, the coaching market is getting crowded this year. I'm just noting that those three have had varying levels of "Fire Him!" fever recently.

Quote:Also between those 3, Meyer, Dantonio, Franklin(this is year 2 for him), and Pat Fitzgerald- that would mean it's just half the coaches next year would either be in years 1 or 2 at their schools.

Fair enough... And I forgot Ferentz at Iowa, who is actually the "Old Man" of the conference... Unless you count Barry Alvarez who may be the proverbial "man behind the curtain" pulling the levers. 03-shhhh
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(10-28-2015 10:10 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Every Big Ten school has plenty of TV money to spend. Maybe this is the year that programs like Illinois or Maryland spend some of that money to get a top-drawer head coach who can roll with the big boys.

They're more likely sending folks to shadow at Purdue to see how they function on the cheap.

Or to Penn State to find out how they can spread costs around.
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(10-28-2015 10:38 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(10-28-2015 09:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I don't think any of the 3 that you are saying has varying levels of discontent will be gone this year. Iowa is undefeated. Indiana doing ok for themselves this year, and Nebraska 1st year coach.

Oh, I agree. Riley is too new at Nebraska to fire, Iowa is doing too well to fire Ferentz, and Indiana is moving upwards and probably will keep Wilson...if for nothing else, the coaching market is getting crowded this year. I'm just noting that those three have had varying levels of "Fire Him!" fever recently.

Quote:Also between those 3, Meyer, Dantonio, Franklin(this is year 2 for him), and Pat Fitzgerald- that would mean it's just half the coaches next year would either be in years 1 or 2 at their schools.

Fair enough... And I forgot Ferentz at Iowa, who is actually the "Old Man" of the conference... Unless you count Barry Alvarez who may be the proverbial "man behind the curtain" pulling the levers. 03-shhhh

I think the one that folks really forget about is Fitzgerald. He's been there for 10 years now.
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(10-28-2015 10:35 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(10-28-2015 10:10 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Every Big Ten school has plenty of TV money to spend. Maybe this is the year that programs like Illinois or Maryland spend some of that money to get a top-drawer head coach who can roll with the big boys.

What top-drawer head coach is going to go to Maryland or Illinois? If they are top-drawer, they already are making big bucks at a stronger program. They best they can hope for is a successful OC/DC or non-P5 head coach. And those are always a crap shoot.

There are always a few A-list candidates looking for a job. No one is going to lure away an A-lister who has a good job and is happy there.

Maryland is going to spend money if they find a coach who Mr. Under Armour likes, so it will be a high-paying job and they'll likely invest in facilities. Illinois is the best vacancy in the easier-to-win division -- in terms of the opportunity to win in your division, it's a better vacancy than, say, South Carolina.
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I don't think it helps Illinois much that schools like Wisconsin and Purdue are about as close, if not closer, to the city to extract talent from the area. Notre Dame and a Northwestern that cares about football now, too.

It's weird...there are programs out there, when you look at a map, you'd swear they should never be bad. Illinois, Washington, Virginia, Colorado, Cal...yet, they are no stranger to droughts.
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On the other hand, there wouldn't seem to be a reason for Oregon to be a national power.

Sure, you can say that you have an unlimited recruiting budget, funded by Nike. But there's only so much you can (legally) do to convince a young man from California, Texas, Florida, etc. to physically come to Eugene, OR in the first place. That's a long way.

But, they did it.
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I am not sure where this idea is coming from that Indiana is making progress and that Wilson is safe. Indiana is not making any progress at all.


Indiana is 0-4 in conference. they score a lot of points but defense can not stop anybody, especially in tne 4Q when it counts. They have give up 24 points each in 4Q in losses last 2 games. Blowing a 52-27 lead to Rutgers!

This is Wilson's 5th year and no bowl gsmes yet. most coaches would have been fired after their 4th year.

Seriously, what does it take to get Wilson fired?
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(10-27-2015 09:22 PM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  I want Hazell to be gone so badly, he's crap.

Purdue fans would take a Tiller 7-5 or a Danny Hope 6-6 right about now.
Elevating a MAC coach who who had 2 seasons as a head coach can be a
little dangerous. The best thing you, Illinois, and now Minny have going for you
is that you are in the West and not the East.
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(10-28-2015 12:14 PM)goofus Wrote:  I am not sure where this idea is coming from that Indiana is making progress and that Wilson is safe. Indiana is not making any progress at all.


Indiana is 0-4 in conference. they score a lot of points but defense can not stop anybody, especially in tne 4Q when it counts. They have give up 24 points each in 4Q in losses last 2 games. Blowing a 52-27 lead to Rutgers!

This is Wilson's 5th year and no bowl gsmes yet. most coaches would have been fired after their 4th year.

Seriously, what does it take to get Wilson fired?

Who would you hire for Indiana, though? It's a basketball school in addition to being 1 of 3 FBS programs in a small state, by reputation they don't invest big in football, and they're in a division with Meyer, Dantonio, and Harbaugh. Good luck with that.
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Listening to the sports radio yesterday, they mentioned just with current attrition that is could lead up to 30 coaching changes for next season. It will be a very interesting December to see all the changes take place.
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(10-28-2015 12:26 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-28-2015 12:14 PM)goofus Wrote:  I am not sure where this idea is coming from that Indiana is making progress and that Wilson is safe. Indiana is not making any progress at all.


Indiana is 0-4 in conference. they score a lot of points but defense can not stop anybody, especially in tne 4Q when it counts. They have give up 24 points each in 4Q in losses last 2 games. Blowing a 52-27 lead to Rutgers!

This is Wilson's 5th year and no bowl gsmes yet. most coaches would have been fired after their 4th year.

Seriously, what does it take to get Wilson fired?

Who would you hire for Indiana, though? It's a basketball school in addition to being 1 of 3 FBS programs in a small state, by reputation they don't invest big in football, and they're in a division with Meyer, Dantonio, and Harbaugh. Good luck with that.

The last coach to leave IU with an overall winning record was Bo Mcmillin in 1947. Even Bill Mallory had a losing record, although they went to many bowl games during his tenure. During this modern bowl era, IU has been to 1 (since 93') bowl, 2007 Insight Bowl.
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Sucks the reason Kill was essentially forced to resign, that's not how you want to see it happen. Best of luck to that guy.
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(10-12-2015 10:28 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So the annual Coaching Carousel is spinning early this year. So far, we have confirmed openings at

ACC
-Miami (Al Golden- Fired)
(Virginia- Hot Seat/ Mike London)
(Virginia Tech- Medium-to-hot Seat/Frank Beamer)

Big 10
-Illinois (Tim Beckman- Fired)
-Maryland (Randy Edsall- Fired)
-Minnesota (Jerry Kill- Resigned/Retired-Health)
(Rutgers-Hot Seat/ Kyle Flood Suspended)
(Purdue- Hot Seat/ Darrell Hazell)

Big XII
-None at this time-
(Iowa State- Hot Seat/ Paul Rhoads)
(Kansas State- Medium-to-hot Seat/ Bill Snyder)

PAC 12
-USC (Steve Sarkesian- Fired)

SEC
-South Carolina (Steve Spurrier- Retired)
(Georgia-Hot Seat/ Mark Richt)

And...
AAC
-UCF (George O'Leary-Resigned)
(USF- Hot Seat/ Willie Taggart)

CUSA
-North Texas (Dan McCarney- Fired)

MAC
-None at this time-

Mountain West
-None at this time-
(Hawai'i- Hot Seat/ Norm Chow)

Sun Belt
-None at this time-

So here are the openings and some rumored openings... Also let me know some "Hot Seat" situations and I'll add those in conjunction with the "Hot Seat" thread....but only the bona fide "hot seat" coaches, not the "speculative" ones.

Pretty sure you can add Todd Berry to the hot seat at ULM (Sun Belt)
http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/10/1...rcumstance
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(10-28-2015 12:36 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Listening to the sports radio yesterday, they mentioned just with current attrition that is could lead up to 30 coaching changes for next season. It will be a very interesting December to see all the changes take place.

yeah a lot of ones where a move to one school would lead to another move which would lead to another move.
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(10-28-2015 12:36 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Listening to the sports radio yesterday, they mentioned just with current attrition that is could lead up to 30 coaching changes for next season. It will be a very interesting December to see all the changes take place.

If that's the case it will be the second highest number in the past eight years per Football Scoop

http://footballscoop.com/news/2015-16-he...g-changes/

Quote:In FBS, eight jobs have already come open as of Oct. 28. Number of changes over the past seven seasons: 22 (2008), 23 (2009), 24 (2010), 28 (2011), 31 (2012), 20 (2013), and 15 (2014)


Has there ever been a year where there were eight openings before Nov 1?
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FWIW, it's my hope/intention that, as positions get filled, the color will change to GREEN with the new coach's (permanent) name, and then, of course, if that creates another opening, I will edit that in with another RED spot...
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Forbes article on potential coaching salaries for USCe, USCw, Miami and Maryland. "Rather than look at who might step into the open jobs, I’m taking a look at what those coaches can realistically expect to be paid based on the compensation of their predecessors, the average salary of coaches in their respective conferences and the salaries of coaches at schools with similar history and recent success."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/blakewilliam...-maryland/

Maryland
Randy Edsall’s Salary: $2,110,648
Average Big Ten Salary: $3,052,093
Average Salary at Peer Programs: $2,498,362 (Virginia and Illinois)

While the Big Ten is on a bit of an upswing, and boasts some of the highest paid coaches in the country in Jim Harbaugh ($7 million) and Urban Meyer ($5.8 million), don’t expect the next head coach at Maryland to have a contract competitive with other coaches on this list.

Harbaugh and Meyer pull up the league average for the Big Ten and the next Terrapins coach may be lucky to hit the $3 million that the average conference coach makes, especially considering Edsall was just the 12th highest paid coach in the Big Ten prior to his termination.

While the final salary will clearly depend on whether the hire is a coach with previous head coaching experience or an up-and-coming assistant (the case for each of these schools), it seems a safe bet that the new hire will land around Edsall’s number and perhaps approach the salaries that Virginia and Illinois, school’s chosen based on similar win records in the last ten years and historic win totals, were slotted to pay their head coaches at the start of the season.

Miami
Al Golden’s Salary: $2,539,315
Average ACC Salary: $2,631,457
Average Salary at Peer Programs: $4,150,000 (Texas A&M and Clemson)

Far enough removed from the dominance of the early 2000s and in the low-salary ACC, Miami’s next head coach will also not likely be among the highest paid nationally.

The ACC’s average salary is the lowest of the four conferences with major openings, and Golden’s was nearly identical to it. That means that the Hurricanes athletic department can offer competitive compensation with the rest of the conference without breaking the bank, at least relative to national salaries.

However, if Miami is going to compare to some programs who have been their peers on the field they may have to shell out more cash. Texas A&M and Clemson have 17 and 19 bowl wins respectively, sitting on either side of Miami’s 18. While the Tigers have been slightly better in the last 10 years (89-42), they haven’t been drastically better than the Hurricanes (76-54) while the Aggies (75-52) have been nearly identical. Clemson and A&M pay their coaches an average salary north of $4 million, so perhaps the next Miami coach will up the ACC average.

South Carolina

Steve Spurrier’s Salary: $4,000,000
SEC Average: $4,103,958
Average Salary at Peer Programs: $2,939,422 (Louisville and Arizona)

Spurrier’s contract and the incredibly high average salary in the SEC suggests that the next man to head up the South Carolina program will be richly compensated. The conference that has largely dominated the last 10 years and routinely tops the national recruiting scene compensates their coaches higher than any other league with that expectation of national relevance. Surely the Gamecocks will continue to offer a salary competitive with the rest of the league, even if the next coach doesn’t come to the job with the same reputation Spurrier did.

When looking at the Gamecocks program and recent history, however, it would suggest $4 million is a bit steep. South Carolina was irrelevant prior to Spurrier’s arrival and while he made them into a quality program, he won one division championship and never captured a conference title. The Gamecocks and their eight bowl wins are similar historically to Louisville (nine bowl wins) and Arizona (eight), and the Cardinals have a similar record over the last 10 years. Those two programs pay their coaches an average of just less than $3 million a year, though the next South Carolina coach is sure to make more.

USC

Steve Sarkisian’s Salary: $4,250,000
Pac-12 Average: $2838,588
Average Salary at Peer Programs: $4,850,000 (LSU and Oklahoma)

While the Pac-12 pays its coaches far less than the SEC and Sarkisian’s salary was hardly more than Spurrier’s, it’s a safe bet that the next coach at USC will be the best compensated of these four.

The Trojans still carry plenty of prestige in college football and are near the top of the sport in all-time wins and national championships. Their recent performance has been inconsistent, but they remain comparable to programs like LSU and Oklahoma. Those two programs join USC in claiming at least six national championships and all three programs have won between 99 and 103 games in the last 10 years. The average salary of Bob Stoops and Les Miles, combined with the fact that Sarkisian’s salary was the highest of any of these outgoing coaches suggests that USC’s next coach will be one of the highest paid nationally.
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(10-27-2015 04:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Any news on Illinois? With proximity to Chicago and St. Louis, why can't they have a real good team?

Cubit has actually done a decent job of turning the program around. If he takes them to a bowl game, I think he gets a HC contract from whoever will be running the atheltic program after this season
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(10-28-2015 08:30 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  ***BUMP***
OP Edited and Updated to reflect Minnesota becoming vacant with Jerry Kill's resignation...

So sad, epilepsy is ending his career. He's done well everywhere he's been and has done a fine job turning Minnesota around
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(10-28-2015 11:36 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I don't think it helps Illinois much that schools like Wisconsin and Purdue are about as close, if not closer, to the city to extract talent from the area. Notre Dame and a Northwestern that cares about football now, too.

It's weird...there are programs out there, when you look at a map, you'd swear they should never be bad. Illinois, Washington, Virginia, Colorado, Cal...yet, they are no stranger to droughts.

Purdue has not done well recruiting metro Chicago for football. Iowa has worked metro Chicago hard and effectively not only sports wise but 1/3 of the Iowa student body comes from Illinois which is an enormous %. What that means for the athletes being recruited by Iowa coaches is that many of their HS friends who aren't jocks are considering Iowa as their college destination as well. It's easier to recruit an out of state talent to come to your university when that many HS students from where they live are also coming as well.
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