Emerging sports don't have distinction between D-I and D-II. UCSD Beach Volleyball joined the Big West last year as a D-II school.

Is there anything DavidSt is not ignorant about?

(04-05-2017 02:57 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Emerging sports don't have distinction between D-I and D-II. UCSD Beach Volleyball joined the Big West last year as a D-II school.

Is there anything DavidSt is not ignorant about?

You're thinking of UCSD men's vb, they don't have beach yet. Big West men's vb starts in spring 2018 with those schools still in the MPSF this spring. Totally agree with the rest but it does make me laugh.

(04-04-2017 08:35 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I think there are some NAIA schools out there being overlooked.

Only look past the University of Science and Art at Oklahoma Drovers at your own peril.

https://usao.edu/sports

Big12 expansion has been put on hold until the Drovers decide...you wait on a team like that.

Finally, my sleeper pick is the Cal Maritime Keelhaulers

http://www.cmakeelhaulers.com/sport/0/1.php

Would love to add the Cal Maritime Keelhaulers to the Pac 12. They have an awesome looking logo!! Maybe go ahead and add USAO too, because they have some hot looking young women!!!

(04-05-2017 12:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 10:09 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 08:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 07:15 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 10:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I am surprise that the D2 California schools have not been invited yet. They have a large student body of undergraduates. Plus, by creating new D1 conferences could help add more schools in the right place.

Central Arkansas main old rival is Arkansas Tech. Now, basketball is now considered exhibition and nothing else.

DavidSt You said "creating new D1 conferences could help add more schools in the right place."

You Can't just start a New D1 Conference with absolutely new members

20.02.5 Multisport Conference. A Division I multisport conference shall satisfy the requirements of this
section. (Adopted: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)
20.02.5.1 Minimum Number of Members. A multisport conference shall be composed of at least seven
active Division I members. The member conference shall include at least seven active Division I members that
sponsor both men’s and women’s basketball. (Adopted: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

Active Members are Currently Members that are Fully Qualified D1 Members that are a Member of a Current Conference or Independents.

As I understand the NCAA Rules NO D1- can formed a new conference with D2 Schools.

To form a New Conference at least 7 or more D1 Basketball playing schools would have to leave their particular conference to start a new conference. It could take anywhere from 6 months to a year to establish conference by-laws, pick a name for the Conference, name a Commissioner, Get Approval from the NCAA and start to hire a staff.

Only after it is approved from the NCAA could they approach a D2 or a D2 could approach them. Remember to move from D2 to D1 you have got to get an invitation from an Official D1 Conference and that approval cannot come before that New Conference become Official.

At that time the New Conference MAY or May Not offer an invitation to a D2 School.

Then a New Conference will not have AQ for a least two years and maybe longer.

So unless the rules are changed there will not be many new or additional D1 Conferences.

I think RMAC might get the waiver since when conferences were first came about? They were one of the first ones that showcase some major universities at the time.

Big 10, SWC, Southern, PAC 12 former name, MVC and RMAC were the big conferences. Most everybody else was Independent at the time. When they divide small and large universities? I think RMAC was still large, but more like G5 conference at the time. Then when they decided to go Divisions of 1, 2 and 3? That was when RMAC went down to 2. Moving RMAC up from D2 is not creating a new conference at D1.

The last time the RMAC was considered a major conference, 1938. Sorry, no waiver is going to be granted. In addition, who in the RMAC are capable of going D1 with the exception of possibly Metro State? No, really no. The RMAC is a stable, happy, D2 conference and it is not going to change... EVER!!!

Actually yes, rules could change to allow schools to move up. Bellarmine have toi join D1 as a whole so that their women's LAX could play in D1.

Colorado Mesa just added Beach Volleyball. They just can't bring it up to D1 unless they go full tilt to joining a D1 conference for all sports. That is a problem what you guys are not thinking about. Colorado Mesa could slide into the Big Sky conference if the BSC loses schools.

Colorado Mesa have no money. The only way that school could even think about D1 would be by dropping FB and likely baseball, the two sports that mean the most to the alumni and residents of Grand Junction.

Grand Junction is not a wealthy town. It is a town which goes through huge economic swings due to its reliance on the oil and gas business. There are a lot of Western Slope retirees who live there for the medical facilities, these are not wealthy retirees. The school does not have the money, nor desire to move up to D1... EVER!!!

(04-05-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 12:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 10:09 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 08:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 07:15 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  DavidSt You said "creating new D1 conferences could help add more schools in the right place."

You Can't just start a New D1 Conference with absolutely new members

20.02.5 Multisport Conference. A Division I multisport conference shall satisfy the requirements of this
section. (Adopted: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)
20.02.5.1 Minimum Number of Members. A multisport conference shall be composed of at least seven
active Division I members. The member conference shall include at least seven active Division I members that
sponsor both men’s and women’s basketball. (Adopted: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

Active Members are Currently Members that are Fully Qualified D1 Members that are a Member of a Current Conference or Independents.

As I understand the NCAA Rules NO D1- can formed a new conference with D2 Schools.

To form a New Conference at least 7 or more D1 Basketball playing schools would have to leave their particular conference to start a new conference. It could take anywhere from 6 months to a year to establish conference by-laws, pick a name for the Conference, name a Commissioner, Get Approval from the NCAA and start to hire a staff.

Only after it is approved from the NCAA could they approach a D2 or a D2 could approach them. Remember to move from D2 to D1 you have got to get an invitation from an Official D1 Conference and that approval cannot come before that New Conference become Official.

At that time the New Conference MAY or May Not offer an invitation to a D2 School.

Then a New Conference will not have AQ for a least two years and maybe longer.

So unless the rules are changed there will not be many new or additional D1 Conferences.

I think RMAC might get the waiver since when conferences were first came about? They were one of the first ones that showcase some major universities at the time.

Big 10, SWC, Southern, PAC 12 former name, MVC and RMAC were the big conferences. Most everybody else was Independent at the time. When they divide small and large universities? I think RMAC was still large, but more like G5 conference at the time. Then when they decided to go Divisions of 1, 2 and 3? That was when RMAC went down to 2. Moving RMAC up from D2 is not creating a new conference at D1.

The last time the RMAC was considered a major conference, 1938. Sorry, no waiver is going to be granted. In addition, who in the RMAC are capable of going D1 with the exception of possibly Metro State? No, really no. The RMAC is a stable, happy, D2 conference and it is not going to change... EVER!!!

Actually yes, rules could change to allow schools to move up. Bellarmine have toi join D1 as a whole so that their women's LAX could play in D1.

Colorado Mesa just added Beach Volleyball. They just can't bring it up to D1 unless they go full tilt to joining a D1 conference for all sports. That is a problem what you guys are not thinking about. Colorado Mesa could slide into the Big Sky conference if the BSC loses schools.

Colorado Mesa have no money. The only way that school could even think about D1 would be by dropping FB and likely baseball, the two sports that mean the most to the alumni and residents of Grand Junction.

Grand Junction is not a wealthy town. It is a town which goes through huge economic swings due to its reliance on the oil and gas business. There are a lot of Western Slope retirees who live there for the medical facilities, these are not wealthy retirees. The school does not have the money, nor desire to move up to D1... EVER!!!

You do not know for 100% what they would do. Going D1 could help the school and the community big time. Staying in a stagnant D2 where you do not get money will kill the community. I think people would come out and see Colorado Mesa play Colorado or Colorado State in all sports. They have the it factor to be a strong D1 program, and potential growth of the area in population and all that. Adding Colorado Mesa does help bridge the gap from the front range schools to the Utah schools. That is why I think they should go D1. They are something that could plug the gaps on the map in D1.

(04-05-2017 04:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 12:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 10:09 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 08:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think RMAC might get the waiver since when conferences were first came about? They were one of the first ones that showcase some major universities at the time.

Big 10, SWC, Southern, PAC 12 former name, MVC and RMAC were the big conferences. Most everybody else was Independent at the time. When they divide small and large universities? I think RMAC was still large, but more like G5 conference at the time. Then when they decided to go Divisions of 1, 2 and 3? That was when RMAC went down to 2. Moving RMAC up from D2 is not creating a new conference at D1.

The last time the RMAC was considered a major conference, 1938. Sorry, no waiver is going to be granted. In addition, who in the RMAC are capable of going D1 with the exception of possibly Metro State? No, really no. The RMAC is a stable, happy, D2 conference and it is not going to change... EVER!!!

Actually yes, rules could change to allow schools to move up. Bellarmine have toi join D1 as a whole so that their women's LAX could play in D1.

Colorado Mesa just added Beach Volleyball. They just can't bring it up to D1 unless they go full tilt to joining a D1 conference for all sports. That is a problem what you guys are not thinking about. Colorado Mesa could slide into the Big Sky conference if the BSC loses schools.

Colorado Mesa have no money. The only way that school could even think about D1 would be by dropping FB and likely baseball, the two sports that mean the most to the alumni and residents of Grand Junction.

Grand Junction is not a wealthy town. It is a town which goes through huge economic swings due to its reliance on the oil and gas business. There are a lot of Western Slope retirees who live there for the medical facilities, these are not wealthy retirees. The school does not have the money, nor desire to move up to D1... EVER!!!

You do not know for 100% what they would do. Going D1 could help the school and the community big time. Staying in a stagnant D2 where you do not get money will kill the community. I think people would come out and see Colorado Mesa play Colorado or Colorado State in all sports. They have the it factor to be a strong D1 program, and potential growth of the area in population and all that. Adding Colorado Mesa does help bridge the gap from the front range schools to the Utah schools. That is why I think they should go D1. They are something that could plug the gaps on the map in D1.

If Colorado Mesa was D1: Colorado would not lower themselves to play in Grand Junction, Colorado State nor Air Force have any incentive to play there either. IF any of them did it would result in a net loss in revenue for CMU. Colorado Mesa would need money they don't have to make the needed D1 standards improvements and those can not include the football and baseball stadiums because they are owned by the City of Grand Junction. There are reasons why Colorado's five D1 schools are all located along the front range.

Also, D2 is not stagnant. The champions in D1 are usually the same 4-6 schools every year and has made it very boring. With certain exceptions like men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, or co-ed skiing in D1 your chances of winning a national title in any sport is almost zero if you are not in a P5 conference. Everyone has a chance in D2, including a small school like Southern Arkansas who reached the 2016 softball final four.

(04-05-2017 06:46 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 04:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 12:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 10:09 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  The last time the RMAC was considered a major conference, 1938. Sorry, no waiver is going to be granted. In addition, who in the RMAC are capable of going D1 with the exception of possibly Metro State? No, really no. The RMAC is a stable, happy, D2 conference and it is not going to change... EVER!!!

Actually yes, rules could change to allow schools to move up. Bellarmine have toi join D1 as a whole so that their women's LAX could play in D1.

Colorado Mesa just added Beach Volleyball. They just can't bring it up to D1 unless they go full tilt to joining a D1 conference for all sports. That is a problem what you guys are not thinking about. Colorado Mesa could slide into the Big Sky conference if the BSC loses schools.

Colorado Mesa have no money. The only way that school could even think about D1 would be by dropping FB and likely baseball, the two sports that mean the most to the alumni and residents of Grand Junction.

Grand Junction is not a wealthy town. It is a town which goes through huge economic swings due to its reliance on the oil and gas business. There are a lot of Western Slope retirees who live there for the medical facilities, these are not wealthy retirees. The school does not have the money, nor desire to move up to D1... EVER!!!

You do not know for 100% what they would do. Going D1 could help the school and the community big time. Staying in a stagnant D2 where you do not get money will kill the community. I think people would come out and see Colorado Mesa play Colorado or Colorado State in all sports. They have the it factor to be a strong D1 program, and potential growth of the area in population and all that. Adding Colorado Mesa does help bridge the gap from the front range schools to the Utah schools. That is why I think they should go D1. They are something that could plug the gaps on the map in D1.

If Colorado Mesa was D1: Colorado would not lower themselves to play in Grand Junction, Colorado State nor Air Force have any incentive to play there either. IF any of them did it would result in a net loss in revenue for CMU. Colorado Mesa would need money they don't have to make the needed D1 standards improvements and those can not include the football and baseball stadiums because they are owned by the City of Grand Junction. There are reasons why Colorado's five D1 schools are all located along the front range.

Also, D2 is not stagnant. The champions in D1 are usually the same 4-6 schools every year and has made it very boring. With certain exceptions like men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, or co-ed skiing in D1 your chances of winning a national title in any sport is almost zero if you are not in a P5 conference. Everyone has a chance in D2, including a small school like Southern Arkansas who reached the 2016 softball final four.

Villanova won the men's championship in basketball. Coastal Carolina won the baseball college world series last year. If it were the same school from the 4 to 6 every year? Than they would not have lost to those 2 teams. Fullerton State won the baseball championship as well.
Football, there are 2 D1 champions. FBS and FCS
It is not asking Colorado Mesa to jump to FBS from D2. They could still compete in FCS championship. Many former D2 schools won the FCS or 1 AA football championship. Northern Kentucky did not have the money to make the jump to D1, and when they got an invite? They still made the jump. Plus, Colorado Mesa did raise money to upgrade their facilities. If they do make the jump? How much the whole community will help pitch in to help make Colorado Mesa to make the jump? You could have Ricky Schroeder from Silver Spoons as a famous alum who could lead the way in fund raising to get the school money. That is how East Tennessee State did when they got Kenny Chesney to help fund raise to bring football back.

(04-05-2017 08:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 06:46 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 04:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 12:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Actually yes, rules could change to allow schools to move up. Bellarmine have toi join D1 as a whole so that their women's LAX could play in D1.

Colorado Mesa just added Beach Volleyball. They just can't bring it up to D1 unless they go full tilt to joining a D1 conference for all sports. That is a problem what you guys are not thinking about. Colorado Mesa could slide into the Big Sky conference if the BSC loses schools.

Colorado Mesa have no money. The only way that school could even think about D1 would be by dropping FB and likely baseball, the two sports that mean the most to the alumni and residents of Grand Junction.

Grand Junction is not a wealthy town. It is a town which goes through huge economic swings due to its reliance on the oil and gas business. There are a lot of Western Slope retirees who live there for the medical facilities, these are not wealthy retirees. The school does not have the money, nor desire to move up to D1... EVER!!!

You do not know for 100% what they would do. Going D1 could help the school and the community big time. Staying in a stagnant D2 where you do not get money will kill the community. I think people would come out and see Colorado Mesa play Colorado or Colorado State in all sports. They have the it factor to be a strong D1 program, and potential growth of the area in population and all that. Adding Colorado Mesa does help bridge the gap from the front range schools to the Utah schools. That is why I think they should go D1. They are something that could plug the gaps on the map in D1.

If Colorado Mesa was D1: Colorado would not lower themselves to play in Grand Junction, Colorado State nor Air Force have any incentive to play there either. IF any of them did it would result in a net loss in revenue for CMU. Colorado Mesa would need money they don't have to make the needed D1 standards improvements and those can not include the football and baseball stadiums because they are owned by the City of Grand Junction. There are reasons why Colorado's five D1 schools are all located along the front range.

Also, D2 is not stagnant. The champions in D1 are usually the same 4-6 schools every year and has made it very boring. With certain exceptions like men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, or co-ed skiing in D1 your chances of winning a national title in any sport is almost zero if you are not in a P5 conference. Everyone has a chance in D2, including a small school like Southern Arkansas who reached the 2016 softball final four.

Villanova won the men's championship in basketball. Coastal Carolina won the baseball college world series last year. If it were the same school from the 4 to 6 every year? Than they would not have lost to those 2 teams. Fullerton State won the baseball championship as well.
Football, there are 2 D1 champions. FBS and FCS
It is not asking Colorado Mesa to jump to FBS from D2. They could still compete in FCS championship. Many former D2 schools won the FCS or 1 AA football championship. Northern Kentucky did not have the money to make the jump to D1, and when they got an invite? They still made the jump. Plus, Colorado Mesa did raise money to upgrade their facilities. If they do make the jump? How much the whole community will help pitch in to help make Colorado Mesa to make the jump? You could have Ricky Schroeder from Silver Spoons as a famous alum who could lead the way in fund raising to get the school money. That is how East Tennessee State did when they got Kenny Chesney to help fund raise to bring football back.

Good grief, I did say "almost zero". The economics in Kentucky are not the same as in Colorado. Upgrading facilities and upgrading facilities for D1 are not the same thing. Colorado Mesa does not have the funds for a D1 upgrade because that also includes funds for more scholarships and more travel among other things. They have no control in upgrading facilities they don't own. Grand Junction has less population than North Little Rock and is in a somewhat isolated area despite having I-70. It is not a celebrity's job to provide funds to a college for any purpose. CMU is not moving up, period. And if your reason to move to D1 was to just fill a gap on the map you have no business being in athletics.

(04-05-2017 08:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 06:46 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 04:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 12:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Actually yes, rules could change to allow schools to move up. Bellarmine have toi join D1 as a whole so that their women's LAX could play in D1.

Colorado Mesa just added Beach Volleyball. They just can't bring it up to D1 unless they go full tilt to joining a D1 conference for all sports. That is a problem what you guys are not thinking about. Colorado Mesa could slide into the Big Sky conference if the BSC loses schools.

Colorado Mesa have no money. The only way that school could even think about D1 would be by dropping FB and likely baseball, the two sports that mean the most to the alumni and residents of Grand Junction.

Grand Junction is not a wealthy town. It is a town which goes through huge economic swings due to its reliance on the oil and gas business. There are a lot of Western Slope retirees who live there for the medical facilities, these are not wealthy retirees. The school does not have the money, nor desire to move up to D1... EVER!!!

You do not know for 100% what they would do. Going D1 could help the school and the community big time. Staying in a stagnant D2 where you do not get money will kill the community. I think people would come out and see Colorado Mesa play Colorado or Colorado State in all sports. They have the it factor to be a strong D1 program, and potential growth of the area in population and all that. Adding Colorado Mesa does help bridge the gap from the front range schools to the Utah schools. That is why I think they should go D1. They are something that could plug the gaps on the map in D1.

If Colorado Mesa was D1: Colorado would not lower themselves to play in Grand Junction, Colorado State nor Air Force have any incentive to play there either. IF any of them did it would result in a net loss in revenue for CMU. Colorado Mesa would need money they don't have to make the needed D1 standards improvements and those can not include the football and baseball stadiums because they are owned by the City of Grand Junction. There are reasons why Colorado's five D1 schools are all located along the front range.

Also, D2 is not stagnant. The champions in D1 are usually the same 4-6 schools every year and has made it very boring. With certain exceptions like men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, or co-ed skiing in D1 your chances of winning a national title in any sport is almost zero if you are not in a P5 conference. Everyone has a chance in D2, including a small school like Southern Arkansas who reached the 2016 softball final four.

Villanova won the men's championship in basketball. Coastal Carolina won the baseball college world series last year. If it were the same school from the 4 to 6 every year? Than they would not have lost to those 2 teams. Fullerton State won the baseball championship as well.
Football, there are 2 D1 champions. FBS and FCS
It is not asking Colorado Mesa to jump to FBS from D2. They could still compete in FCS championship. Many former D2 schools won the FCS or 1 AA football championship. Northern Kentucky did not have the money to make the jump to D1, and when they got an invite? They still made the jump. Plus, Colorado Mesa did raise money to upgrade their facilities. If they do make the jump? How much the whole community will help pitch in to help make Colorado Mesa to make the jump? You could have Ricky Schroeder from Silver Spoons as a famous alum who could lead the way in fund raising to get the school money. That is how East Tennessee State did when they got Kenny Chesney to help fund raise to bring football back.

Rick Schroeder? Seriously? Stop digging, it is not going to happen. Come visit the Colorado Western Slope and then post this drivel. It will not happen.

Hey, Ricky could raise that kind of money for CMU. And Dana Perino could raise enough money for CSU-Pueblo to go D1 along with CMU.

(04-05-2017 09:21 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 08:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 06:46 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 04:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 03:19 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  Colorado Mesa have no money. The only way that school could even think about D1 would be by dropping FB and likely baseball, the two sports that mean the most to the alumni and residents of Grand Junction.

Grand Junction is not a wealthy town. It is a town which goes through huge economic swings due to its reliance on the oil and gas business. There are a lot of Western Slope retirees who live there for the medical facilities, these are not wealthy retirees. The school does not have the money, nor desire to move up to D1... EVER!!!

You do not know for 100% what they would do. Going D1 could help the school and the community big time. Staying in a stagnant D2 where you do not get money will kill the community. I think people would come out and see Colorado Mesa play Colorado or Colorado State in all sports. They have the it factor to be a strong D1 program, and potential growth of the area in population and all that. Adding Colorado Mesa does help bridge the gap from the front range schools to the Utah schools. That is why I think they should go D1. They are something that could plug the gaps on the map in D1.

If Colorado Mesa was D1: Colorado would not lower themselves to play in Grand Junction, Colorado State nor Air Force have any incentive to play there either. IF any of them did it would result in a net loss in revenue for CMU. Colorado Mesa would need money they don't have to make the needed D1 standards improvements and those can not include the football and baseball stadiums because they are owned by the City of Grand Junction. There are reasons why Colorado's five D1 schools are all located along the front range.

Also, D2 is not stagnant. The champions in D1 are usually the same 4-6 schools every year and has made it very boring. With certain exceptions like men's ice hockey, men's lacrosse, or co-ed skiing in D1 your chances of winning a national title in any sport is almost zero if you are not in a P5 conference. Everyone has a chance in D2, including a small school like Southern Arkansas who reached the 2016 softball final four.

Villanova won the men's championship in basketball. Coastal Carolina won the baseball college world series last year. If it were the same school from the 4 to 6 every year? Than they would not have lost to those 2 teams. Fullerton State won the baseball championship as well.
Football, there are 2 D1 champions. FBS and FCS
It is not asking Colorado Mesa to jump to FBS from D2. They could still compete in FCS championship. Many former D2 schools won the FCS or 1 AA football championship. Northern Kentucky did not have the money to make the jump to D1, and when they got an invite? They still made the jump. Plus, Colorado Mesa did raise money to upgrade their facilities. If they do make the jump? How much the whole community will help pitch in to help make Colorado Mesa to make the jump? You could have Ricky Schroeder from Silver Spoons as a famous alum who could lead the way in fund raising to get the school money. That is how East Tennessee State did when they got Kenny Chesney to help fund raise to bring football back.

Good grief, I did say "almost zero". The economics in Kentucky are not the same as in Colorado. Upgrading facilities and upgrading facilities for D1 are not the same thing. Colorado Mesa does not have the funds for a D1 upgrade because that also includes funds for more scholarships and more travel among other things. They have no control in upgrading facilities they don't own. Grand Junction has less population than North Little Rock and is in a somewhat isolated area despite having I-70. It is not a celebrity's job to provide funds to a college for any purpose. CMU is not moving up, period. And if your reason to move to D1 was to just fill a gap on the map you have no business being in athletics.

This argument is deja vu all over again. You are the same naysayers as others who say that North Alabama does not have the funds to go D1. Look at what happened? North Alabama got an invite, and joining the D1 ranks. Do not say never is never. Anything can happen, and Colorado Mesa and Colorado State-Pueblo and others could move to D1. Boise State was D2, and look where they are at? Youngstown State was D2, and look where they are at? Colorado Mesa could be as strong at the FCS level as well, better than Northern Colorado.

Northern Colorado manhandled the XDSU'S in fb in D2 days, but was bad in basketball. In DI, fball has been bad but bball has made the dance. How a school performs in D2 does not foretell it's success in DI.

U Missouri St. Louis should look to move up, a league could pair them with umkc

http://newsok.com/article/5554458

Central Oklahoma raise over $25 million in the last couple of years from gifts and donations to upgrade their facilities. If they continued raising funds like this? They could afford to go D1 in a few years. Southland may be full, but Summit for all sports, and MVFC might be the ticket. What do you all think about UCO going to the Summit as a pair to Oral Roberts and MVFC with Missouri State as a close rival?

(06-28-2017 07:39 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://newsok.com/article/5554458

Central Oklahoma raise over $25 million in the last couple of years from gifts and donations to upgrade their facilities. If they continued raising funds like this? They could afford to go D1 in a few years. Southland may be full, but Summit for all sports, and MVFC might be the ticket. What do you all think about UCO going to the Summit as a pair to Oral Roberts and MVFC with Missouri State as a close rival?

And why not ask the Southland?

(06-28-2017 07:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-28-2017 07:39 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://newsok.com/article/5554458

Central Oklahoma raise over $25 million in the last couple of years from gifts and donations to upgrade their facilities. If they continued raising funds like this? They could afford to go D1 in a few years. Southland may be full, but Summit for all sports, and MVFC might be the ticket. What do you all think about UCO going to the Summit as a pair to Oral Roberts and MVFC with Missouri State as a close rival?

And why not ask the Southland?

Southland is full as is until Lamar, Sam Houston State and SFA leaves for FBS when room could be made for them.

(06-28-2017 07:39 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://newsok.com/article/5554458

Central Oklahoma raise over $25 million in the last couple of years from gifts and donations to upgrade their facilities. If they continued raising funds like this? They could afford to go D1 in a few years. Southland may be full, but Summit for all sports, and MVFC might be the ticket. What do you all think about UCO going to the Summit as a pair to Oral Roberts and MVFC with Missouri State as a close rival?

Nothing in the article hints at a D1 move, in fact it clearly states the opposite:

Quote:The new stadium is expected to be among the finest Division II baseball facilities in the country.

It's only a fund-raising campaign that all schools do to make improvements on out-dated facilities and other athletic needs. Central Oklahoma is not even eligible to move up, when that need gets addressed then you can maybe consider them for D1.

****BREAKING NEWS****
UC SAN DIEGO JUST ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WILL BE JOINING THE BIG WEST CONFERENCE ALONG WITH CAL ST BAKERSFIELD. I ALSO FEEL THAT THE WHOLE CCAA Conference should move up to divison I due to the big student body they have and also having multiple sports

(12-03-2017 08:59 PM)mgillespie2 Wrote:  ****BREAKING NEWS****
UC SAN DIEGO JUST ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WILL BE JOINING THE BIG WEST CONFERENCE ALONG WITH CAL ST BAKERSFIELD. I ALSO FEEL THAT THE WHOLE CCAA Conference should move up to divison I due to the big student body they have and also having multiple sports

Sorry, you're a week late with the breaking news. Some schools in the CCAA have large enrollments but they probably don't have the finances available to move up.

D2 schools and their likely targets.

Bellarmine- Horizon/Big South/A-Sun/OVC/Southern
Lincoln Memorial-A-Sun/Big South
West Florida-A-Sun
Tarleton State-Southland
Francis Marion-A-Sun
Western Washington-WAC
West Texas A&M-Southland/WAC
Southern Indiana-Horizon/OVC
Valdosta State-A-Sun
UMSL-Summit/Horizon
Delta State-Southland
Central State, Ohio-OVC
UAH-A-Sun
West georgia A-Sun
Central Oklahoma-Southland
Indiana, PA.-Big South (Robert Morris could join as a pair.)
OKCU-Southland/Summit
Kentucky State-OVC
CSU-Pueblo-Big Sky/WAC
Grand Valley State-MVFC/Horizon
Lemoyne-AEC
Harding-Southland
Texas A&M-Commerce-Southland
Texas A&M-Kingsville-Southland
Merrimack-NEC
Bentley-NEC
Southern New Hampshire-NEC
Academy of ARt-WAC
Wayne State Michigan-Horizon (There were interests between the 2 between 2000 and 2010, but with Oakland close be, they could not move in. If Oakland leaves? Wayne State could be the logic replacement. Wayne State could move their football into MVFC.)

If Louisiana can not merged the schools? They may have to forced them all except for LSU into a conference as one to cut spending. If the FBS schools stays? The Southland could be forced to form two conferences. I think that NCAA might give the new conference as a waiver because they are forced into it. Could the Texas schools be renamed Southwest Conference to revive the name?

Louisiana schools would might look like this for travel reasons.

McNeese State
Nicholls State
Southeastern State
NW State LA.
Grambling
Southern
UCA
Arkansas Tech
Harding
UAPB
New Orleans
Jackson State
Delta State


SWAC needs three replacements, plus if Texas Southern and Prairie View to the SWC?
Tuskegee
Albany State
Savannah State
Bethune-cookman
Florida A&M
Alabama State
Alabama A&M
Alcorn State
Mississippi Valley State
Lemoyne-Owen in Memphis
Fort Valley State

SWC
Corpus Christie
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFA
Texas Southern
Houston Baptist
Abilene Christin
Incarnate Word
Prairie View A&M
Central Oklahoma
Cameron
West Texas A&M
Tarleton State
Commerce
Kingsville

Future UTPB, Midwestern State, Angelo State, Rogers State, UAFS, and Oklahoma Baptist.

MEAC needs to find teams.
Central State, Ohio
Kentucky State
Bowie State
Virginia State

Kentucky State could grow in the MEAC and join the OVC just like Tennessee State. It could help their school out to be in OVC.