(12-31-2016 07:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Remove the toxic LGBT issue from TGT, and they would be enjoying the same gains as everyone else.

A wild guess you pulled out of you a__.

Granted, you wish it were the case that such a minor and insignificant issue was the reason for Target stock price being flat over 2016. But alas, your wishes are irrelevant to reality.

(12-31-2016 07:42 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  I just said is was moronic to make an issue of something that did not have to be an issue.

Might want to ask North Carolina if it's not an issue. They were just trying to get out in front of that tidal wave, with the correct policy.

(12-31-2016 07:42 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Target decided to virtue signal one side, shame the other

(12-31-2016 07:42 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  They made it about virtue hoping to get great press.

What, in the name of made up jargon, are you talking about??

(01-01-2017 12:31 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  It remains to be see if the Democratic governor wants to govern or obstruct.

Hopefully obstruct. As proven by the election, more democrats voters voted in the state of Minn than republican voters. Yet Minn legislature is controlled by republicans??

Gerrymandered. 2020 can't get here soon enough, so we can fix the illegal crap.

(01-01-2017 12:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I doubt there is any company in Minn bigger than 3M. 90,000 employees and 30 billion in sales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnitedHealth_Group

$157B revenue (2015)
200k employees (2015)

(01-02-2017 04:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 07:42 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  I just said is was moronic to make an issue of something that did not have to be an issue.

Might want to ask North Carolina if it's not an issue. They were just trying to get out in front of that tidal wave, with the correct policy.

Since Target stores in North Carolina had the same transgender policy as ones in Minnesota yes, for target, it was not an issue. HB2 did not forbid any company from doing what target wanted to do, none....

So no, it was not an issue for Target in North Carolina or any other state, That is until they made it one.

(01-02-2017 04:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 07:42 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Target decided to virtue signal one side, shame the other

(12-31-2016 07:42 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  They made it about virtue hoping to get great press.

What, in the name of made up jargon, are you talking about??

You don't know what virtue signaling is? really?

Just when I think you've hit bedrock of what you don't know, you get a pick ax and start digging even deeper..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling

"Virtue signalling is the expression or promotion of viewpoints that are especially valued within a social group, especially when this is done primarily to enhance the social standing of the speaker."

[quote][quote='MplsBison' pid='13958805' dateline='1483391153']
[quote='Kronke' pid='13955698' dateline='1483231064']Remove the toxic LGBT issue from TGT, and they would be enjoying the same gains as everyone else.


A wild guess you pulled out of you a__.

Granted, you wish it were the case that such a minor and insignificant issue was the reason for Target stock price being flat over 2016. But alas, your wishes are irrelevant to reality.[/quote]

The wild guess is that it's NOT the reason/cause.
If that isn't the issue (million plus consumers swearing the place off and probably in the magnitude of 3,4-1 of those who don't bother signing on-line petitions) then Target better get to the business of firing a whooooole bunch of people.
To have your stock price FLAT, after missing a run from Dow 16K to 20 K, especially with the massive Trump Rally there at the end, they better damn well have something to point at.

To have performed that poorly especially against the peer indices it would probably be smart to embrace that as a reason, apologize for being dumb and exceedingly short-sighted and hope the public moves on.

Otherwise they are some poor functioning folks.

(01-02-2017 04:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  HB2 did not forbid any company from doing what target wanted to do

It was and is a toxic policy, that has cost North Carolina events and business. Target needed to make sure that its customers knew it wasn't in support of HB2. Saying nothing would've been perceived as support.

(01-02-2017 04:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling

Wikipedia articles can be created and edited by anyone. For all we know, you created that article out of thin air, just before you posted this.

I think I'll need a more credible source, that this isn't made up jargon and is actually in mainstream use.

(01-02-2017 06:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  they better damn well have something to point at

I'm only saying that to proclaim one minor issue such as this, must the sole reason, is a wild guess and wishful thinking.

(01-03-2017 02:11 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 04:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  HB2 did not forbid any company from doing what target wanted to do

It was and is a toxic policy, that has cost North Carolina events and business.

Which in *NO* way forced target to do anything.

Quote:Target needed to make sure that its customers knew it wasn't in support of HB2. Saying nothing would've been perceived as support.

And you said you didn't know what virtue signaling was..

(01-03-2017 02:11 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 04:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling

Wikipedia articles can be created and edited by anyone. For all we know, you created that article out of thin air, just before you posted this.

Ummm Add wiki to the list of things you are clueless about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit...on=history

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Created by this cat back in April
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dwanyewest

Quote:I think I'll need a more credible source, that this isn't made up jargon and is actually in mainstream use.

Then sit down and read "Religious Culture and Cooperative Prediction under Risk: Perspectives from Social Neuroscience" by Joe Bulbulia (professor at Victoria University of Wellington) and Uffe Schjoedt (professor at Aarhus University)

I've now given you a solid academic reference by two separate university professors. If you stay blind now you have moved from ignorant to willingly ignorant.

(12-31-2016 11:20 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  http://www.startribune.com/share-prices-...408848535/

Quote:The stocks of Minnesota companies performed better than the broader market in 2016, a turnaround from 2015 when most were a disappointment for investors.

Major U.S. stock indexes, which ended flat in 2015 and were in negative territory for the first 10 weeks of this year, closed 2016 with solid gains. The Dow Jones industrials finished up 13.4 percent, its best performance since 2013. The broader-market S&P 500 index finished up 9.5 percent and tech-heavy Nasdaq was up 7.5 percent.

The Piper Jaffray Minnesota index, a measure of companies headquartered in the state, finished the year up 16 percent at 645.68. It closed 2014 at 674.87, then fell 17.5 percent to finish 2015 at 556.35.

Shares in about 50 of the approximately 80 publicly traded companies based in Minnesota finished 2016 at a higher price than they did a year ago. Only 20 Minnesota companies saw stock price gains for the full year of 2015.

Executives and investors of one of the state’s best-known companies, Target Corp., spent ­Friday watching to see whether its shares would finish up or down for the year.

Target’s share price on Thursday closed at $72.62, a penny above its close on the last day of 2015.

How are private Minnesota businesses doing?

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