(02-04-2017 09:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 06:53 PM)appst89 Wrote:  I'm so tired of these entertainers believing that anyone gives a crap what they think. Sing the damn song and shut up.

says the guy who elected a TV star to POTUS.

Says the failed mind reader.

(02-05-2017 01:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  =Yea there are a lot of guys worth 4 billion who's record is "nothing all that special"

The basis of that money is a massive inheritance. The business school he went to has disowned him and fellow billionaires chide his business record all the time. He is notorious for shady practices that you simply don't see other billionaires do. I've heard something along the lines of his wall street investment record is below average. Based on what I've seen and heard I believe Paris Hilton is better at business than he is.

=What got trump into office was being an anti-establishment populist who, though his fame, voiced things people wanted to hear. He was famous long before the Apprentice.

Doesn't change the fact that he had a brand. and that brand was built around being a TV star. he played the celebrity role.

His inheritance was $40million. He's worth an estimated $4 billion now. That's not too shabby of a return.

(02-04-2017 07:04 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

Your post made me want to listen to this song again lol.

(02-05-2017 01:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  The basis of that money is a massive inheritance.

Fred Trump did not die until 1999.... Trump was already worth over two billion by that point.

Want to try again?

Quote:The business school he went to has disowned him and fellow billionaires chide his business record all the time.

So he does not fit in at the country club? what's your point?

Rich people often make a show aboug disavowing the crude boarish behavior which is a trump trademark. It says nothing of his business skills.

Quote:He is notorious for shady practices that you simply don't see other billionaires do.

George Soros intentionally broke the British pound so he could make a buck. Imposing massive suffering and financial hardship on millions of people.

Buffets mobile tenement empire is anything but ethical his mobile-home empire relies on predatory sales practices, exorbitant fees, and interest rates that can exceed 15 percent. He made a lot of money through usury and trapping people.

Quote:Doesn't change the fact that he had a brand. and that brand was built around being a TV star. he played the celebrity role.

That brand existed well before "the apprentice"

Lol at the quote that says Bruce was once a proud American singing songs like "Born in the USA". That song is anti American policy if You read the lyrics. He even admited it was an antiwar protest song. Like most Liberals he only complains when Republicans are in charge.

(02-04-2017 11:15 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 10:29 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 10:07 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Johns youth is showing here.

Trump was one of the most famous people on earth LONG before "reality TV" was born.

Yeah...I think I watched maybe one episode of that show. I did not find it entertaining.

It was a primetime show on a Big 3 network. That show is what made him go from a notable name (such as Jerry Jones or Mark Cuban) to a major TV star.

That is not saying much. The viewership of those networks have been declining steadily because viewers have so many choices..and better programming to watch. I rarely watch anything on those networks any more. The shows are pretty much unwatchable. I like CBS Sunday AM, Dateline,6O minutes and and an occasional comedy. I cant remember the last time I watched a prime time show on any those networks outside of sports.

(02-04-2017 10:07 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Johns youth is showing here.

Trump was one of the most famous people on earth LONG before "reality TV" was born.

Exactly. Trump has been a household name since the 1980's. The reason he got the TV show to begin with was because everybody knew who he was.

(02-04-2017 09:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 06:53 PM)appst89 Wrote:  I'm so tired of these entertainers believing that anyone gives a crap what they think. Sing the damn song and shut up.

says the guy who elected a TV star to POTUS.

Wait a minute…Trump is a tv star. When did this happen? I thought he owned a whole slew of hotels and resorts. Dang, the Reps LIED to me. Next you're gonna tell me that Reagan was in movies.

Bunch of liars. That's the last time I listen to Republican supporters.

(02-04-2017 06:34 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Bruce Springsteen, a once proud American with his song “Born in the USA” said at a concert in Australia he’s embarrassed to be an American
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...rican.html

Does anyone EVER review these songs before they say something about them? Bruce Springsteen is NOT a pro-American singer.. and this song is completely off by what people claim.

Apparently whoever wrote the article has never paid attention to the "Born in the USA" lyrics? It's definitely not a pro-America song.

It's a slam against A) Vietnam war B) claims of mistreatment to US veterans.

Got in a little hometown jam
So they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land
To go and kill the yellow man

DOES THAT REALLY SOUND Like a pro-America song? Or a "America is warring country"

Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man said "son if it was up to me"
Went down to see my V.A. man
He said "son, don't you understand"

EDIT: I see CardsFan beat me to it....

Springsteen secretly views the American working public as a source of revenue. He has lost any tangible connections with them.

I think the lesson here is that you guys really do care what entertainers think. There's a difference between not caring and disagreeing.

(02-06-2017 02:19 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think the lesson here is that you guys really do care what entertainers think. There's a difference between not caring and disagreeing.

You can look at it another way. The reason they care at all is because a whole bunch of stupid people listen to these people and put value on what they say. Then go out and repeat or act on those words.

Or at least that's my take on it. I personally don't care if these "stars" are pro or con for our president . I personally don't care if a million other people view them as all knowing..even if they are probably not any more informed than the ones they are talking at.

I say stupid people even if not all of them are that. But the way I look at it a person is either weak or stupid if they need to follow...

instead of learning through reading different points of view on a topic

Oh don't let this longer than average post (at least message board post...but not for me) make you think I must care. I don't twitter...I can't do the 144 count. And I do love to read and debate other people on their views. Even ones I feel strongly about..I do listen to the other person.

(02-06-2017 02:42 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 02:19 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think the lesson here is that you guys really do care what entertainers think. There's a difference between not caring and disagreeing.

You can look at it another way. The reason they care at all is because a whole bunch of stupid people listen to these people and put value on what they say. Then go out and repeat or act on those words.

Or at least that's my take on it. I personally don't care if these "stars" are pro or con for our president . I personally don't care if a million other people view them as all knowing..even if they are probably not any more informed than the ones they are talking at.

I say stupid people even if not all of them are that. But the way I look at it a person is either weak or stupid if they need to follow...

instead of learning through reading different points of view on a topic

Oh don't let this longer than average post (at least message board post) make you think I must care. I don't twitter...I can't do the 144 count. And I do love to read and debate other people on their views. Even ones I feel strongly about..I do listen to the other person.

That may be the case for some, but definitely not all spin roomers.

The left has steamrolled past full-retard and went straight to potato.

What a bunch of butthurt, petulant children.

Why is it that these entertainers love to bad mouth the USA when they are abroad?

(02-06-2017 02:19 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think the lesson here is that you guys really do care what entertainers think. There's a difference between not caring and disagreeing.

Uhmn... nomad, in case you didn't notice: this happened

"said at a concert in Australia "...

What happened to "Shut up and sing?" That's 1 of my 2 issues with what happened. And then he has to do in the "comfort" zone of being outside the United States?

(02-06-2017 06:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Why is it that these entertainers love to bad mouth the USA when they are abroad?

Virtue signaling

(02-05-2017 10:47 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Lol at the quote that says Bruce was once a proud American singing songs like "Born in the USA". That song is anti American policy if You read the lyrics. He even admited it was an antiwar protest song. Like most Liberals he only complains when Republicans are in charge.

Never understood why that song gets so much play at political rallies. People just know the chorus and have no idea what the song is.

Original working title was "Vietnam.” And the famous refrain was “You died in Vietnam.”

(02-05-2017 09:23 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 06:34 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Bruce Springsteen, a once proud American with his song “Born in the USA” said at a concert in Australia he’s embarrassed to be an American
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...rican.html

Does anyone EVER review these songs before they say something about them? Bruce Springsteen is NOT a pro-American singer.. and this song is completely off by what people claim.

Apparently whoever wrote the article has never paid attention to the "Born in the USA" lyrics? It's definitely not a pro-America song.

It's a slam against A) Vietnam war B) claims of mistreatment to US veterans.

Got in a little hometown jam
So they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land
To go and kill the yellow man

DOES THAT REALLY SOUND Like a pro-America song? Or a "America is warring country"

Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man said "son if it was up to me"
Went down to see my V.A. man
He said "son, don't you understand"

EDIT: I see CardsFan beat me to it....

It's pop culture mythology revised to enforce a point. At his peak many thought his music sucked and he was a douche. Gotta be old enough to remember

(02-06-2017 09:29 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 02:19 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think the lesson here is that you guys really do care what entertainers think. There's a difference between not caring and disagreeing.

Uhmn... nomad, in case you didn't notice: this happened

"said at a concert in Australia "...

What happened to "Shut up and sing?" That's 1 of my 2 issues with what happened. And then he has to do in the "comfort" zone of being outside the United States?

Yea "shut up and sing" should be words to live by for entertainers. I don't agree on almost anything Politically with Lady G... But man did she put on a fantastic half time show.

She can rail against Trump all she wants on social media or to the press. But she gets on stage and performs for everyone. That's something to respect.