(03-10-2017 07:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (03-10-2017 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-10-2017 02:54 PM)olliebaba Wrote: How can you afford Trump care with a tax credit, if Wal Mart doesn't pay you enough to have tax liability high enough to afford the health care premiums that will go up by 200 percent in the first year of the program (if coverage is available at all)
If it can be demonstrated that a person is responsible with their income, works full-time (if able-bodied), spends money on necessities first and not luxuries, and with that they really can't afford health insurance, I don't think you would find anyone on this board who wouldn't want to help that person afford health insurance.
That's the person that I want to give help to so that they can afford their health insurance because they are trying.
I have a relative that buys choice steaks and he isn't rolling in money. I buy chuck steak that tastes good enough for me. Especially the way we marinate it. Delicious.
Please point to where coverage for cancer treatment or a heart transplant is mandated under Trumpcare....
They WILL deny coverage and you can't get chemo at the ER. And all the hospitals, including the 'fake Christian' ones WILL deny them coverage.
You realize that Trumpcare will result in 30 percent of Americans losing health coverage? Most because Trump and the GOP simply told their employer, "go ahead dump healthcare for your employees and use the money to buy yourself a third house in the Dominican Republic", some because they aren't insurable and they'll be offered no comprehensive plan that covers them financially AT ANY PRICE, and some because Trumpcare incentivizes people to wait until they get sick to join the system.
And with uninsurance rates moving from 10 to 40 percent, hospitals would go broke quickly providing needed care for people who can't afford it (and that's before the hospitals raise rates 500% because Trumpcare just greenlighted those cost increases)....and since they're not interested in providing care anyway. They won't provide the care. And people will die as a result. Even if they've paid into the system for life.
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lol. C'mon man. The increases you describe are happening now---worse in fact. Some have had increases over 100% this year. That's going to cause fewer and fewer to be covered. The Obama care "solution" has literally become the problem.
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Under Obamacare, once your income falls below a certain level the MUST cover you and they MUST cover you for major events. Increases were a result of the ban on back door subsidies passed by the GOP in 2014.
Under Obamacare, more people are insured. That is a fact.
Trumpcare will result in 30-50 million people losing insurance within the first couple of years.
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70% of Americans will NEVER be able to afford healthcare, because its pricing is so inflated, they don't make enough money to pay for it, and more importantly, the private sector cannot accommodate them.
At least under Obamacare, everyone had access to insurance that was income means tested, companies were required to pay for benefits (which mitigated their desire to pawn off the costs of their low wages to others - so they could profit from that). And there were required coverages and strong prohibitions against discrimination. With Trumpcare, we will get runaway costs, no coverage minimums, the THEFT of the insurance reserves, lifetime maximums of about 10 bucks, and massive disruption to our system.
And I live in Texas, where you cannot sue a doctor or a hospital for any real money. THey can KILL you via obvious malpractice and you can't sue for more than 0.05% of the CEO's salary.