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I can not take seriously an opinion piece that uses the term "unauthorized immigrants"... IOW I believe there are other facts they are mangling or neglecting to share.
03-06-2018 11:25 AM
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(03-06-2018 11:25 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  I can not take seriously an opinion piece that uses the term "unauthorized immigrants"... IOW I believe there are other facts they are mangling or neglecting to share.

And a lot aren't even immigrants. They are intending to be migrants.
03-06-2018 11:29 AM
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(03-06-2018 06:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Pro family party my ass

Says the party that kills unborn children.
03-06-2018 12:18 PM
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I do not approve of the way this is being handled. I do however understand that "actions have consequences" and sometimes they are negative. I would hope this situation could be handled better now that it is publicly known.
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(03-06-2018 08:08 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Point right over your people's heads.

YOU DON"T SPLIT UP A 7 YEAR OLD FROM HER MOTHER AS A DETERRENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLY CRAP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So instead we should put her in a detention facility with other people with questionable backgrounds while her mother's claims are investigated?

remember that SOME of those in the detention facility aren't innocents. I suppose we could put the two of them (and others like them) in solitary to protect them instead. I'm sure you'd be fine with that, right?

You act like this is permanent.

If stuff is so bad where she is coming from, a few days/weeks even months of separation will be worth a lifetime of safety

Ideal? No. Ideally, we know who the criminals are as they walk across the border. Unfortunately, many countries have poor identification of citizens and even worse identification of criminals.

(03-06-2018 08:15 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  NAZI's pulled **** like this.

And now the Nazi card.

Proof positive that you've lost the point
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(03-06-2018 08:15 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  NAZI's pulled **** like this

Nazi's also confiscated guns when they came to power... So I guess you "sometimes" see where Nazi's are coming from...

FFS you used to be better than Goodwin.
03-06-2018 12:58 PM
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(03-06-2018 08:08 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Point right over your people's heads.

YOU DON"T SPLIT UP A 7 YEAR OLD FROM HER MOTHER AS A DETERRENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLY CRAP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, why not deport them together? A young child should never be separated from his or her parents.

Of course, this should make us rethink no-fault divorce, but forcing your moral values on others only goes one way. I mean we all know only liberals get to enforce their version of pro-family values on conservatives and not the other way around.
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(03-06-2018 12:58 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 08:15 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  NAZI's pulled **** like this

Nazi's also confiscated guns when they came to power... So I guess you "sometimes" see where Nazi's are coming from...

FFS you used to be better than Goodwin.

Don't forget the book burnings, which is a form of shutting down opposition speech.

Who does that remind me of?
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PRETENDING TO BE CONGOLESE
Another phenomenon that U.S. border officials are dealing with is Haitian migrants turning themselves in and claiming to be Congolese. Mexico does not have the authority to deport migrants to the Democratic Republic of Congo or the Republic of the Congo as it does not have diplomatic ties with them, so its immigration authorities must release those people.

At a migrant detention center in Tapachula, Mexico, on Monday, U.S. and Mexican immigration authorities were inundated when 500 immigrants turned themselves in, claiming to be Congolese, according to the internal emails seen by Reuters.

Two officials, one at the U.S. Department of State and the other at the Department of Homeland Security told Reuters on the condition of anonymity that they are skeptical that the 500 were Congolese because so many Haitians have made that claim.

https://af.reuters.com/article/africaTech/idAFL2N1BR1R6

Desperate Haitians offer children for good homes in America
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne...erica.html

Haiti earthquake: children sold by traffickers for as little as 76 pence each
Children in Haiti are being sold for as little as 76 pence each by traffickers taking advantage of the chaos from last year’s earthquake, new figures from Unicef show.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne...-each.html

High probability that lady is Haitian.

Thousands Of Haitians Trying To Get Into The U.S. Are Stuck In Tijuana
https://www.npr.org/2016/10/12/497637814...in-tijuana
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FTR, I'm not 'proud' of this...

but I'm also not ashamed of it.

I can't think of a solution that doesn't have some bad aspects to it. This seems rather trivial. My kids used to get sad when I put them to bed or sent them to school or left them with the sitter the first few times. They wanted to stay with me and were afraid of what might happen. Once they did it for a while, they generally got comfortable and actually looked forward to it.

Welcome to America
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(03-06-2018 02:01 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  FTR, I'm not 'proud' of this...

but I'm also not ashamed of it.

I can't think of a solution that doesn't have some bad aspects to it. This seems rather trivial. My kids used to get sad when I put them to bed or sent them to school or left them with the sitter the first few times. They wanted to stay with me and were afraid of what might happen. Once they did it for a while, they generally got comfortable and actually looked forward to it.

Welcome to America

Not to mention the fact that the government forcibly puts many of our kids in insecure situations where they are exposed to a high level of sexual predators. You know, public schools.
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Why do you guys even respond to him? If a tree falls in the forest ....
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(03-06-2018 08:09 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  If she was simply seeking asylum why didn't she just seek it in Mexico?

Anyone?
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(03-06-2018 02:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 08:09 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  If she was simply seeking asylum why didn't she just seek it in Mexico?

Anyone?

Because it is a chithole compared to the USA.
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