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RE: PAC-18 w/ Balance Divisions
(03-24-2018 08:03 PM)dunstvangeet Wrote: (03-23-2018 09:03 AM)Sactowndog Wrote: (03-22-2018 06:18 PM)dunstvangeet Wrote: (03-22-2018 11:16 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote: (03-22-2018 02:26 AM)jrj84105 Wrote: This is correct. The PAC becomes a much less Western conference if WSU and OSU are eliminated because fewer cross-division games are required to give all the Mountain/Central schools California exposure.
The SW division looks a lot more like an improved BigXII the more schools are added.
PAC12
Pacific: UW, UO, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC
Southwest: AZ, ASU, UU, CU, UT, TTU.
PAC14
Pacific: UW, UO, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, UU
Southwest: AZ, ASU, CU, UT, TTU, OU, KU
----^this lineup is big money comparable to B1G and SEC^-----
PAC16 (get the gang back together)
Pacific: UW, UO, Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU
Southwest: UU, CU, KU, Mizzou, Neb, OU, UT, TTU.
WSU and OSU are just quietly going to go to the Big Sky. Sure thing.
Not going to happen, lawyers will be getting checks from the PAC till Jesus returns.
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Oregon State and Washington State aren't moving period. Even the California schools wouldn't allow that. They have played with Oregon State and Washington State for over 90 years (UCLA joined the PCC in 1928). Even with the dissolving of the PCC, it only took 5 years before Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington State joined back up with them.
And most of them were together for over 100 years (Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, and California formed the PCC in 1915, Washington State joined in 1917, Stanford in 1918, USC in 1922, and UCLA in 1928). Even when the PCC dissolved in 1959, it only took 5 years for all of them to get back together (Cal, Washington, USC, UCLA, Stanford in 1959, WSU in 1962, and Oregon and OSU in 1964).
And they will not kick out Oregon State and Washington State.
They won’t kick you out as they can’t. They will just leave and you won’t be invited. In the era of Big TV money you can’t justify two schools from a small state like Oregon and Oregon State isn’t AAU. Do you really think USC cares if they play Oregon State versus falling behind in revenue?
I think that USC, UCLA, Stanford, California, Oregon, and Washington will be no votes on leaving Oregon State and Washington State, partners that they have partnered with for the last 100 years, behind.
The PAC-12 is all about tradition. I don't see any of the old PAC-8 being left behind. And in fact, one of the reasons that the PAC-16 was proposed was to basically have a division with the old PAC-8 being one division.
I don't see USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Stanford, or California leaving the PAC-12.
Honestly, you guys are just like the people who insist that Boise State will be the next one to get a PAC-12 invite. You don't know the culture and the history of the PAC-12. They're not just going to jump ship and drop 2 schools that they've been associated with for 90+ years.
My wife is a Coog but this move seems inevitable. And my grandparents went to USC in the 30’s, my mom and aunts went to USC/UCLA in the early 60’s and I have been following USC the late 1960’s. I have siblings or cousins at Cal, Stanford, and UCLA. So yes I know the CA PAC schools well and they won’t stand for being 4th in revenue.
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If that means trimming Oregon State and Washington State (both non-AAU schools) they won’t hesitate. Ask the Cal State system how ruthless the UC’s can be.
Washington and Oregon will have no say. Seriously what other options do they have? Do you really think they are going to stay in a Pac12 with Fresno State and San Diego State?
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2018 09:14 PM by Sactowndog.)
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