Quote:This would amount to spying, and it is hugely disconcerting. It would also be a major escalation from the electronic surveillance we already knew about, which was bad enough. Obama political appointees rampantly “unmasked” Trump campaign officials to monitor their conversations, while the FBI played dirty with its surveillance warrant against Carter Page, failing to tell the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that its supporting information came from the Hillary Clinton campaign. Now we find it may have also been rolling out human intelligence, John Le Carré style, to infiltrate the Trump campaign.

One can only imagine the combined pounds-per-square-inch of sphincter pressure being generated in DC around midnight on election night as it became evident that Trump not only had a chance, but was likely to be the next president of the United States.

This story is YUGE.

With some of the stuff coming out, like calls between Trump and foreign officials, I've wondered if the FBI has the Oval Office bugged.

Imagine.

Hillary is president and the FBI has her under investigation for something regarding her e-mails on Uranium One or Clinton Cash or Vince Foster's murder, etc...and the Democrats control the house and Maxine Waters is the chair of the House Intelligence Committee (yeah...I too know it's hilarious) but anyway.

You'd be fine with the FBI turning over everything to Maxine?

Yeah, didn't think so.

(05-10-2018 11:12 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(05-10-2018 11:08 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Am I the only one that thinks this is really bad, regardless of political party.

Bad, it's not a bombshell revelation, it's one of these.



With each one of these revelations we learn why the FBI has to be dragged kicking and screaming to turn over documents that should not be anything special. They're corrupt and now everyone knows it.

Except Mach.

If Obama put a spy in the Trump Campaign, then they knew that the polling numbers were different than what was being reported by the MSM. They wouldn't jeopardize that kind of political capital for a sure loser.

(05-11-2018 12:14 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  If Obama put a spy in the Trump Campaign, then they knew that the polling numbers were different than what was being reported by the MSM. They wouldn't jeopardize that kind of political capital for a sure loser.

Well they believed the Trump people were incompetent. The Trump people even told the media people that North Carolina was a lock and that they were winning Florida and Brit Hume of Fox said nobody believed them, including himself. Giuliani said MI, PA and even WI were in play. Nobody believed him.

You can't overestimate the arrogance and delusion of the Democrats.

If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

I should find the link o nthe site to my electoral map projection back in the fall of 2016 which triggered Tom or Max so hard that they insisted I be banned for lying.

(05-11-2018 09:17 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 09:11 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  yet no leftists on here....

We're here with popcorn laughing at all the paranoid freakazoids in this thread.

Paranoid? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

First, the pretense assumes that 'your side' is correct and that something bad actually happened. That's a fact not in evidence as most on the right have claimed all along. It's the left who keeps claiming that 'we're getting there' and that some double-secret probation sort of revelation is forthcoming. The right does not believe there is anything to cover up. It is the left who believes this, mostly because they need a conspiracy to explain why their hand-picked candidate lost.

Second, it is only because of the left's conspiracy theories that the right is speculating about where such a revelation would come from. Without that, the right is simply saying as they always have... where is the proof of YOUR conspiracy? I can't speak for many others on the right but I know I speak for a few.... I didn't support Trump other than during this period of gun fantasy from the left, I wanted a Republican rather than a Democrat to pick Scalia's replacement and I hate most politicians in general... He was the only option for many of us.

It seems clear that nobody's votes were changed and I'm not sure that 'The Russians' are any closer to nor more harmful to my personal political perspective than George Soros or Nancy Pelosi... Dirty tricks are dirty tricks... so I honestly can't think of anything ILLEGAL about the accusations raised thus far, but if he broke the law then I'd want him gone in a heartbeat... even though while I like Pence as a fairly honest politician, he doesn't represent 'me' socially.

I don't recall many democrats saying similar things about the accusations levied against Hillary.

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).
I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

This.

I watched the election returns, as most of us did. When Pennsylvania started to turn, I thought, "Hmm, Trump just may win this thing."

Spies, insurance policies, wire taps, fake dossiers, special counsels, the full brunt of the intelligence community, and still couldn't find anything.

SQUEAKY CLEAN

(05-11-2018 01:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

I should find the link o nthe site to my electoral map projection back in the fall of 2016 which triggered Tom or Max so hard that they insisted I be banned for lying.

ok, I found the link. I apologize to Tom. He wasnt part of it.

IT WAS MACH! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://csnbbs.com/thread-793182.html

(05-11-2018 01:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 01:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

I should find the link o nthe site to my electoral map projection back in the fall of 2016 which triggered Tom or Max so hard that they insisted I be banned for lying.

ok, I found the link. I apologize to Tom. He wasnt part of it.

IT WAS MACH! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://csnbbs.com/thread-793182.html

LOLz

(05-11-2018 01:41 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Spies, insurance policies, wire taps, fake dossiers, special counsels, the full brunt of the intelligence community, and still couldn't find anything.

SQUEAKY CLEAN

How much does it suck to cheat that much and still lose?

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

Not that I don't believe you, but living in Michigan, I don't remember seeing any polls here saying that trump had pulled ahead or had a "good chance" of winning MI. Can you find a link perhaps? Thanks.

(05-11-2018 01:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 01:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

I should find the link o nthe site to my electoral map projection back in the fall of 2016 which triggered Tom or Max so hard that they insisted I be banned for lying.

ok, I found the link. I apologize to Tom. He wasnt part of it.

IT WAS MACH! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://csnbbs.com/thread-793182.html

Holy Schiff

(05-11-2018 01:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 01:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

I should find the link o nthe site to my electoral map projection back in the fall of 2016 which triggered Tom or Max so hard that they insisted I be banned for lying.

ok, I found the link. I apologize to Tom. He wasnt part of it.

IT WAS MACH! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://csnbbs.com/thread-793182.html

And Mach got so personal with you, something he cries about, when directed at him.

To me calling someone a liar is about as bad as wife beater

(05-11-2018 01:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 01:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

I should find the link o nthe site to my electoral map projection back in the fall of 2016 which triggered Tom or Max so hard that they insisted I be banned for lying.

ok, I found the link. I apologize to Tom. He wasnt part of it.

IT WAS MACH! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://csnbbs.com/thread-793182.html

While Mach may have overreacted, I can understand why in some respects. Nothing in the thread title or your post lead anyone to believe that this was just your prediction, unless you were aware that site was one where you just did your own projecting. And actually, I remember I linked a map from that site once with numbers I had changed without realizing it...and I seem to remember someone, maybe even you, who overreacted to it as well like I was trying to fool someone, when it was just a harmless mistake. Interesting, don't you think?

But bottom line, your thread and post were a clear troll. Not surprising, it's basically your MO.

(05-11-2018 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 01:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 01:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 12:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you looked at the poll numbers in public, it was a very good chance Trump would win. He lead in the last polls in MI and PA. He was neck and neck in NH and NV. He only needed 1 of PA, MI or WI or both of NH and NV if you assume he wins NC and FL which he clearly was leading (although very close).

I was not alone on this board in predicting a Trump win in the closing days.

I should find the link o nthe site to my electoral map projection back in the fall of 2016 which triggered Tom or Max so hard that they insisted I be banned for lying.

ok, I found the link. I apologize to Tom. He wasnt part of it.

IT WAS MACH! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://csnbbs.com/thread-793182.html

While Mach may have overreacted, I can understand why in some respects. Nothing in the thread title or your post lead anyone to believe that this was just your prediction, unless you were aware that site was one where you just did your own projecting. And actually, I remember I linked a map from that site once with numbers I had changed without realizing it...and I seem to remember someone, maybe even you, who overreacted to it as well like I was trying to fool someone, when it was just a harmless mistake. Interesting, don't you think?

But bottom line, your thread and post were a clear troll. Not surprising, it's basically your MO.

So posting the truth and facts are now considered trolling?

(05-11-2018 12:14 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  If Obama put a spy in the Trump Campaign, then they knew that the polling numbers were different than what was being reported by the MSM. They wouldn't jeopardize that kind of political capital for a sure loser.

Note to self: January 20, 2017. President Obama told us to do everything "by the book", totally legal, really, that's what he said. Honest.