South Stadium demolition and replacement with chair-back general seating.
New chair-back seating in West and East stadiums.
360-degree main-level concourse connection and 270-degree upper-level concourse connection.
Concession upgrades, refurbished menu options and added points of sale throughout the stadium.
Restroom modernization throughout the stadium.
Academic curriculum space, with specific uses guided by UNL’s academic leadership.
Enhanced student life amenities.
ADA upgrades throughout the stadium.
(08-10-2023 11:18 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote: Here’s a recent concept video rendering of the New Aloha Stadium Entertainment District (NASED). The $400 million in public funding for the new stadium has already been appropriated by the Hawaii legislature and approved by the governor. An RFP is current being written to select a development team that would (1) demolish the existing condemned stadium and build the new stadium with the public funding, (2) design and coordinate build-out of the surrounding privately-funded mixed-use entertainment district, and (3) use some of the profits from the mixed-use development to operate and maintain the stadium for 30 years.
Because writing the RFP, selecting the development team, and executing the public-private development contract is expected to take until mid-2025, the target opening date for the stadium is mid-2028.
Rice Stadium was built for $3.3 million in 1950 by Brown and Root who built it at cost, using two crew shifts. When they were asked whether it would be ready for the first game, they asked when was the game. When told it was a evening start, they were informed it would be ready.
We are coming up on the 50th anniversary of the Rice Stadium Super Bowl.
Congratulations on that. Lots of history there. I understand Kennedy gave his famous 1962 "We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard" speech (which included a comparative reference to Rice playing Texas) at Rice Stadium.
I also know Brown & Root is still around (merged into KBR), and I would sure like those guys to come out and do their magic here. Efficient construction engineering and execution are not typical of Hawaii public works projects.
The convention center in Houston is the George R. Brown Convention Center. If I have done my arithmetic correctly, it can hold 14 football fields in the exhibit space. Brown was on the Board of Regents at Rice (where the George R. Brown School of Engineering is located). As a member of the board of regents, Brown arranged for a donation of land from Humble Oil (later Exxon and ExxonMobil) to Rice, which donated to NASA where the Johnson Space Center is located. The first word from the Moon in 1969 were transmitted to there, "Houston"
At the time in 1962, Rice had a 17-15 lead in the series from 1930 (if you go back further Texas had dominated). The two played to a 14-14 tie a few weeks later. Since that time Rice has won twice.
It tends to be misremembered that Rice hardly ever beat Texas. But instead it was the small academic school was able to go head to head against the big state school and hold their own.
From 1930-1962 SWC championships.
UT 8.33
TCU 6.33
Rice 5.00
Ark 4.83
A&M 4.50
SMU 4.00
Bay 0.00
Tech 0.00 (3 seasons)
In the written speech, JFK asked the rhetorical question, "why 35 years ago, did we fly the Atlantic", he then ad-libbed "why does Rice play Texas"
Now the speech might be, "why 71 years later, do we fly volleyball teams from Los Angeles to New Jersey or San Jose to Miami for a volleyball game?"
I knew of several major bowl appearances during the period (Cotton Bowl win over Alabama being the most famous)
But, I hadn’t seen that accounting of Rice’s championships from 1930-1962. Impressive!
I will quibble with your stats from 1963-1995, though. Who did you count as the “champ” for 1994?
Cause Rice has championship rings for winning the title that year! Did not appear in the Cotton Bowl due to a misapplication of the tiebreaker rules.
More on topic, incremental work has been underway on Historic Rice Stadium over the past two off-seasons. This summer’s updates look great, I’m looking to seeing them in-person later this fall. New brickwork along the walls is my favorite update as it looks great and ties the stadium closer to the prevalent campus architecture.
It was not a "misapplication", we were ineligible b/c of some cheating scandal or other, and Texas Tech had gone the longest since being in the Cotton Bowl. Rice won the SWC in 1957 and competed in the 1958 Cotton Bowl.
Texas A&M was on probation and ineligible for the conference championship or post-season play, which meant that the Red Raiders were awarded a share of the SWC championship. Per SWC rules, Texas Tech was selected to represent the conference in the 1995 Cotton Bowl Classic since the Red Raiders had not played in the bowl game since 1939, and had never played in the game as a member of the SWC.
(08-18-2023 10:19 PM)jimrtex Wrote: Melissa opens their $35M 10,000 seat stadium next Friday (25th)
I'm not even sure Melissa was 1A when I was a kid, their kids might have gone to Val Alstyne or McKinney. That area has exploded.
Tthere was a fictional account in Texas Monthly about Anna West winning the 8A Championship in the fourth year after they opened. The story was set some time in the 2030s.
I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
(09-16-2023 07:40 PM)jimrtex Wrote: There was a fictional account in Texas Monthly about Anna West winning the 8A Championship in the fourth year after they opened. The story was set some time in the 2030s.
I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
(09-16-2023 07:40 PM)jimrtex Wrote: There was a fictional account in Texas Monthly about Anna West winning the 8A Championship in the fourth year after they opened. The story was set some time in the 2030s.
I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
For a high school that "gym" is just mind-boggling.
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2023 05:22 PM by HawaiiMongoose.)
(09-16-2023 07:40 PM)jimrtex Wrote: There was a fictional account in Texas Monthly about Anna West winning the 8A Championship in the fourth year after they opened. The story was set some time in the 2030s.
I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
For a high school that "gym" is just mind-boggling.
That's a nicer gym than at a least a third of D1 schools.
(09-16-2023 07:40 PM)jimrtex Wrote: There was a fictional account in Texas Monthly about Anna West winning the 8A Championship in the fourth year after they opened. The story was set some time in the 2030s.
I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
For a high school that "gym" is just mind-boggling.
That's a nicer gym than at a least a third of D1 schools.
Government waste at its finest. My kids attend one of the nicest schools in the state, and we have nothing like any of the fields/buildings/cafeteria/etc in those pictures. If I was a Prosper resident, I'd be questioning why they needed to spend so much on that last bond, and I'd be working to vote the current school board out.
(09-30-2023 11:42 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote: I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
For a high school that "gym" is just mind-boggling.
That's a nicer gym than at a least a third of D1 schools.
Government waste at its finest. My kids attend one of the nicest schools in the state, and we have nothing like any of the fields/buildings/cafeteria/etc in those pictures. If I was a Prosper resident, I'd be questioning why they needed to spend so much on that last bond, and I'd be working to vote the current school board out.
The teachers can't pay their rent/bills, but they have the best sports facilities for the .4% of the student body that will need to train for a pro future.
A coworker of mine in Texas, who currently has high school and middle school students, told me that it is ridiculous, but at the same time some of the most powerful boosters (for both school systems and political campaigns) donate so much so that they can have football treated this way. That means it often ends up in a situation like this where you get top of the line facilities and a lot of other things end up overlooked.
It's not a "this is what's best for the school/system" scenario as much as it is "this is a way to keep the money flowing"
(10-02-2023 08:55 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: The teachers can't pay their rent/bills, but they have the best sports facilities for the .4% of the student body that will need to train for a pro future.
(09-30-2023 11:42 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote: I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
For a high school that "gym" is just mind-boggling.
That's a nicer gym than at a least a third of D1 schools.
Government waste at its finest. My kids attend one of the nicest schools in the state, and we have nothing like any of the fields/buildings/cafeteria/etc in those pictures. If I was a Prosper resident, I'd be questioning why they needed to spend so much on that last bond, and I'd be working to vote the current school board out.
The $2.8 billion bond issue is this November. They did break out separate issues for the stadium, a fine arts center, and technology (laptops, etc.). The big item is for the new school buildings. In other ISD's they have bundled new stadiums in with school buildings.
I suspect the big item for over $2 billion will pass. If your children are being bussed to another elementary school, or having to have class in portable building, you are going to want the new school to be built before your children go to middle school.
Prosper ISD has gone from 1000 students in 2002, to 28,000 now, and are adding about 3,000 per year.
They will have more NO votes on the other issues, but sharing one stadium for 5 high schools (3 teams each?) is resulting in a lot of midweek games for the underclass teams.
(10-01-2023 03:48 PM)jimrtex Wrote: Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
For a high school that "gym" is just mind-boggling.
That's a nicer gym than at a least a third of D1 schools.
Government waste at its finest. My kids attend one of the nicest schools in the state, and we have nothing like any of the fields/buildings/cafeteria/etc in those pictures. If I was a Prosper resident, I'd be questioning why they needed to spend so much on that last bond, and I'd be working to vote the current school board out.
The $2.8 billion bond issue is this November. They did break out separate issues for the stadium, a fine arts center, and technology (laptops, etc.). The big item is for the new school buildings. In other ISD's they have bundled new stadiums in with school buildings.
I suspect the big item for over $2 billion will pass. If your children are being bussed to another elementary school, or having to have class in portable building, you are going to want the new school to be built before your children go to middle school.
Prosper ISD has gone from 1000 students in 2002, to 28,000 now, and are adding about 3,000 per year.
They will have more NO votes on the other issues, but sharing one stadium for 5 high schools (3 teams each?) is resulting in a lot of midweek games for the underclass teams.
(09-30-2023 11:42 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote: I graduated high school in 1991. In various seasons from my 7th to 12th grade years, we were in districts with Coppell, Anna, Farmersville, Celina, Pilot Point, Van Alstyne, and Caddo Mills, among others. Prosper was still 1A back then. Melissa was so far down the pecking order that I'd almost forgotten that it was even a city.
Prosper ISD has four bond issues for $2.8 billion, including a new football stadium for $84 million. The biggest issue for over $2 billion is to build 6 elementary schools, 2 middle schools, complete the 4th high school, and build a 5th.
The 3rd high school opened this fall, the 4th broke ground in August and will be completed in two years.
Here are pictures of the indoor practice facility and "gym" at the third high school.
For a high school that "gym" is just mind-boggling.
That's a nicer gym than at a least a third of D1 schools.
Government waste at its finest. My kids attend one of the nicest schools in the state, and we have nothing like any of the fields/buildings/cafeteria/etc in those pictures. If I was a Prosper resident, I'd be questioning why they needed to spend so much on that last bond, and I'd be working to vote the current school board out.
The $100M stadium bond issue was voted down 45%-55%.
The $2.4B issue for new schools was approved 65%-35%
The $140M issue for new devices (laptops, etc.) was approved 64%-36%
The $125M issue for a performing arts center was approved 56%-44%.
(10-02-2023 08:55 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: The teachers can't pay their rent/bills, but they have the best sports facilities for the .4% of the student body that will need to train for a pro future.
Teachers make out just fine. Just fine.
After the many side gigs they take on to fill the gaps, maybe.
Now, tenured college/university faculty, spot on.
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2023 06:34 AM by The Cutter of Bish.)
(10-02-2023 08:55 AM)IceJus10 Wrote: The teachers can't pay their rent/bills, but they have the best sports facilities for the .4% of the student body that will need to train for a pro future.
Teachers make out just fine. Just fine.
Qualified university teachers in the USA often graduate with debt before learning where their first teaching job is coming from or when it will arrive. Meanwhile, an increasing number of those first teaching jobs are part-time. Students are all too often being mentored lately by professors whose 'studio' is the back seat of the used car they drive to campus.
(08-18-2023 10:05 PM)jimrtex Wrote: ....
In the written speech, JFK asked the rhetorical question, "why 35 years ago, did we fly the Atlantic", he then ad-libbed "why does Rice play Texas"
Now the speech might be, "why 71 years later, do we fly volleyball teams from Los Angeles to New Jersey or San Jose to Miami for a volleyball game?"
Because it makes little sense to fly volleyball players all that way for hopscotch.
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