I don't think the MAC has a lot of parity.

There is a large difference in the top of the MAC to the bottom in football, basketball and academics.

Top of the football is borderline Top 25 and the bottom can't get 2,000 in the stands.

Top of the basketball defeated Arizona in the tournament and bottom can't get 200 in the stands.

There is an AAU school and a couple that look like DII schools academically.

There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Just ******* stop.

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Oh wait, you're serious.

(06-01-2018 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Oh wait, you're serious.

You never know with David. I have to believe it's just his schtick, and he gets off on how we respond to his trolling. I can't imagine he really is serious.

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

David you might be technically correct, but there is a 99.99% that it will never happen. If I understand the rules even if it did happen the first 4 or 5 seasons they would have to play an FCS schedule and once they met the FCS requirement then they would have to play the 2 seasons transition from FCS to FBS. An FBS Conference would be stupid to go that route just like your ideals are stupid.

(06-01-2018 08:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Oh wait, you're serious.

You never know with David. I have to believe it's just his schtick, and he gets off on how we respond to his trolling. I can't imagine he really is serious.

Trolling or genuine, he is a master of his craft and the biggest legend in CSNbbs history. Zero cracks.

(06-01-2018 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Oh wait, you're serious.

Schools do move to be with other schools that are like minded all the time like the Catholic 7 to form the Big East. There are schools not just in the MAC that are similar in academics. There are some in the Horizon and in MVC that are R1 or R2.

Took me a minute to find this, but I remembered reading about CUSA distributions from an ODU paper a couple of years ago. It includes tax document info and AD quotes so should be fairly reliable, albeit dated.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...-post.html

(06-01-2018 02:40 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Oh wait, you're serious.

Schools do move to be with other schools that are like minded all the time like the Catholic 7 to form the Big East. There are schools not just in the MAC that are similar in academics. There are some in the Horizon and in MVC that are R1 or R2.

I've said before the MAC adding Milwaukee, UIC, IUPUI, Illinois St ect. would not be a bad move even if they didn't bring football just because they have more of a MAC profile.

(06-01-2018 09:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 02:40 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 08:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Oh wait, you're serious.

Schools do move to be with other schools that are like minded all the time like the Catholic 7 to form the Big East. There are schools not just in the MAC that are similar in academics. There are some in the Horizon and in MVC that are R1 or R2.

I've said before the MAC adding Milwaukee, UIC, IUPUI, Illinois St ect. would not be a bad move even if they didn't bring football just because they have more of a MAC profile.

Wayne State and Mich Tech fit well with those schools as well. You could get close to a AAU type conference if you get rid of the deadweights in the MAC.

This insane thread has become absurdly ridiculous.

(06-01-2018 10:20 PM)AZcats Wrote:  This insane thread has become absurdly ridiculous.

David started the thread..... so we all knew his fantasy world was coming.

(06-02-2018 12:27 AM)utpotts Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 10:20 PM)AZcats Wrote:  This insane thread has become absurdly ridiculous.

David started the thread..... so we all knew his fantasy world was coming.

Yeah, I need to pay more attention to the name of who started the thread before entering. That will be a clue as to whether it will be an intelligent conversation.

The #1 realignment move that would help the MAC is if the B12 was to go to 14.

B12 (Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, Colorado St)
AAC (So. Miss)
MWC (UTEP)

That would water down the AAC, MWC & CUSA, the competition for the access bid. AAC would still be a stronger football conference but not by as much as it is now.

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Have you ever been to Houghton Michigan? My guess is no. It’s a town of almost 8000 in the Keweenaw Peninsula. It sticks out into Lake Superior and gets about about 220 inches of snow a year. Not a great recruiting pitch. The closest major airport is 2 hours away at KI Sawyer international airport (an old Air Firce base) over 2 hours away. With the chance that you may get held up by weather, I’m sure D1 schools will be clamoring to make the trip there.

Houghton and Marquette are great winter towns. I have lived in Marquette (hence the name dayooper) and have been to Houghton many times. These are not D1 schools or towns in any fashion.

MTU as a D1 school is one of the most ridiculous things you have said on these forums (and that’s saying something). There are many downstate Michigan high schools that have better facilities than MTU does. Here is their stadium, Sherman Field:



Does that look like a D1 stadium? The amount of money it would take to upgrade those facilities would be astronomical. Just because they are a great engineering school doesn’t mean the will move up to D1. Above everything else, MTU is a Michigan Public School that, with the exception of Ashland, Northwood and Davenport, plays sports with other Public Schools in The Midwest. My more than educated guess is they aren’t moving up for any reason in the near future.

The Big House is closer to the Palestra (8:39) than Michigan Tech (8:43).

(06-03-2018 11:10 AM)dayooper Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Have you ever been to Houghton Michigan? My guess is no. It’s a town of almost 8000 in the Keweenaw Peninsula. It sticks out into Lake Superior and gets about about 220 inches of snow a year. Not a great recruiting pitch. The closest major airport is 2 hours away at KI Sawyer international airport (an old Air Firce base) over 2 hours away. With the chance that you may get held up by weather, I’m sure D1 schools will be clamoring to make the trip there.

Houghton and Marquette are great winter towns. I have lived in Marquette (hence the name dayooper) and have been to Houghton many times. These are not D1 schools or towns in any fashion.

MTU as a D1 school is one of the most ridiculous things you have said on these forums (and that’s saying something). There are many downstate Michigan high schools that have better facilities than MTU does. Here is their stadium, Sherman Field:



Does that look like a D1 stadium? The amount of money it would take to upgrade those facilities would be astronomical. Just because they are a great engineering school doesn’t mean the will move up to D1. Above everything else, MTU is a Michigan Public School that, with the exception of Ashland, Northwood and Davenport, plays sports with other Public Schools in The Midwest. My more than educated guess is they aren’t moving up for any reason in the near future.

Army is in a similar size town, and they are FBS. Seems it is not a reqiurement for you to be in a large size town. Michigan Tech up to 1980 was a conference mates with some MAC schools and Youngstown State.

As Wayne State? They were a founding member of the WAC at one time. I think they could make a move first to go D1 out of the D2 Michigan schools. If the Horizon loses a Michigan school? They could replaced that leaving school.

(06-03-2018 02:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 11:10 AM)dayooper Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Have you ever been to Houghton Michigan? My guess is no. It’s a town of almost 8000 in the Keweenaw Peninsula. It sticks out into Lake Superior and gets about about 220 inches of snow a year. Not a great recruiting pitch. The closest major airport is 2 hours away at KI Sawyer international airport (an old Air Firce base) over 2 hours away. With the chance that you may get held up by weather, I’m sure D1 schools will be clamoring to make the trip there.

Houghton and Marquette are great winter towns. I have lived in Marquette (hence the name dayooper) and have been to Houghton many times. These are not D1 schools or towns in any fashion.

MTU as a D1 school is one of the most ridiculous things you have said on these forums (and that’s saying something). There are many downstate Michigan high schools that have better facilities than MTU does. Here is their stadium, Sherman Field:



Does that look like a D1 stadium? The amount of money it would take to upgrade those facilities would be astronomical. Just because they are a great engineering school doesn’t mean the will move up to D1. Above everything else, MTU is a Michigan Public School that, with the exception of Ashland, Northwood and Davenport, plays sports with other Public Schools in The Midwest. My more than educated guess is they aren’t moving up for any reason in the near future.

Army is in a similar size town, and they are FBS. Seems it is not a reqiurement for you to be in a large size town. Michigan Tech up to 1980 was a conference mates with some MAC schools and Youngstown State.

As Wayne State? They were a founding member of the WAC at one time. I think they could make a move first to go D1 out of the D2 Michigan schools. If the Horizon loses a Michigan school? They could replaced that leaving school.

It's no use. David lives in an alternate universe where facts and reality do not exist. A thread that was once insane and later absurdly ridiculous is now just complete idiocy.

(06-03-2018 02:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 11:10 AM)dayooper Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 09:45 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  There are a couple of D2 schools in the area that could fit. One is an AAU type school. Others are R2. You do wonder if Wayne State R1 and Michigan Tech want to move up to be with like minded schools academically?

Have you ever been to Houghton Michigan? My guess is no. It’s a town of almost 8000 in the Keweenaw Peninsula. It sticks out into Lake Superior and gets about about 220 inches of snow a year. Not a great recruiting pitch. The closest major airport is 2 hours away at KI Sawyer international airport (an old Air Firce base) over 2 hours away. With the chance that you may get held up by weather, I’m sure D1 schools will be clamoring to make the trip there.

Houghton and Marquette are great winter towns. I have lived in Marquette (hence the name dayooper) and have been to Houghton many times. These are not D1 schools or towns in any fashion.

MTU as a D1 school is one of the most ridiculous things you have said on these forums (and that’s saying something). There are many downstate Michigan high schools that have better facilities than MTU does. Here is their stadium, Sherman Field:



Does that look like a D1 stadium? The amount of money it would take to upgrade those facilities would be astronomical. Just because they are a great engineering school doesn’t mean the will move up to D1. Above everything else, MTU is a Michigan Public School that, with the exception of Ashland, Northwood and Davenport, plays sports with other Public Schools in The Midwest. My more than educated guess is they aren’t moving up for any reason in the near future.

Army is in a similar size town, and they are FBS. Seems it is not a reqiurement for you to be in a large size town. Michigan Tech up to 1980 was a conference mates with some MAC schools and Youngstown State.

As Wayne State? They were a founding member of the WAC at one time. I think they could make a move first to go D1 out of the D2 Michigan schools. If the Horizon loses a Michigan school? They could replaced that leaving school.

Wayne State is a commuter school and most students don't care for their athletics. Also no school has nor ever will jump straight from DII to FBS.

It's odd, you want Wayne to make the quantum leap to FBS yet you hate how Georgia State, another commuter school has moved up and gone to bowl games already.