Too bad the ties went away, that would accomplish the same thing.


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I think you got Georgia State and Georgia Southern mixed up

(09-02-2018 02:15 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  I would put App in there somewhere. If they go 12-1, that loss won't hurt them too much.

And perhaps Utah St who lost to #11 Michigan St in the last minute.
We shall see as the season progresses.

(09-02-2018 10:09 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  I am going to try and keep this updated every week.

So after week 1, this is how I see the top 10 G5 teams for the access bowl.

1 Boise St - handled a Troy St team that will end up being a bowl eligible team
2 UCF - Beat a bad UConn team, as they should have
3 Memphis - Beat an bad FCS team in convincing fashion
4 Cincinnati - Best G5 win so far still not sold on them but they are here till they lose
5 USF - Handled their business against Elon
6 Hawaii- Manhandled a good Navy team
7 Houston - Didn't look as good as they should have against weaker comp
8 UNT - Beat a possible bowl eligible SMU
9 Toledo - Steamrolled VMI
10 Ga State - Look good against a lesser opponent

And your reasoning is??? The ESPN power rankings look like this:

Boise 24
Memphis 35
Fresno State 39
UCF 50
Marshall 57
San Diego St 60
Utah State 63
Toledo 68
Houston 71
USF 73

What is your methodology other than an AAC homer? Explain why Fresno is not in your top 10 when they beat Houston last year and return a majority of their team? How are Marshall and Fresno, using ESPN’s analytics, in their top 5 and not your top 10?

(09-02-2018 09:46 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  In no particular order, the teams in contention for the G5 NY6 slot are Cincinnati, UCF, USF, Memphis, Houston, Boise St, and Hawaii. The AAC winner is in the driver's seat until all 12 teams have a loss.

Hawaii will struggle to get past either Fresno or SDSU. Particularly since Hawaii gets neither game on the island.

(09-03-2018 11:36 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:09 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  I am going to try and keep this updated every week.

So after week 1, this is how I see the top 10 G5 teams for the access bowl.

1 Boise St - handled a Troy St team that will end up being a bowl eligible team
2 UCF - Beat a bad UConn team, as they should have
3 Memphis - Beat an bad FCS team in convincing fashion
4 Cincinnati - Best G5 win so far still not sold on them but they are here till they lose
5 USF - Handled their business against Elon
6 Hawaii- Manhandled a good Navy team
7 Houston - Didn't look as good as they should have against weaker comp
8 UNT - Beat a possible bowl eligible SMU
9 Toledo - Steamrolled VMI
10 Ga State - Look good against a lesser opponent

And your reasoning is??? The ESPN power rankings look like this:

Boise 24
Memphis 35
Fresno State 39
UCF 50
Marshall 57
San Diego St 60
Utah State 63
Toledo 68
Houston 71
USF 73

What is your methodology other than an AAC homer? Explain why Fresno is not in your top 10 when they beat Houston last year and return a majority of their team? How are Marshall and Fresno, using ESPN’s analytics, in their top 5 and not your top 10?

Who cares. These "power rankings" are garbage and aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Totally meaningless ranking someone came up with.

That said, maybe Fresno should be in top 10, I forgot about them. But to me, until someone else runs the table, the AAC champ, whoever that is, or possibly Boise is always going to be in the driver's seat above anyone else. Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

(09-03-2018 12:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

Oh really? So if FAU wins out (which would mean beating UCF), they wouldn't be up there? Or if Marshall runs the table which means wins over NCST (who we had on the ropes last year) and South Carolina, they wouldn't garner some attention? Or how about LA Tech with wins over LSU and Mississippi State? I'm sorry, but CUSA is not out of it.

(09-03-2018 12:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 11:36 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:09 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  I am going to try and keep this updated every week.

So after week 1, this is how I see the top 10 G5 teams for the access bowl.

1 Boise St - handled a Troy St team that will end up being a bowl eligible team
2 UCF - Beat a bad UConn team, as they should have
3 Memphis - Beat an bad FCS team in convincing fashion
4 Cincinnati - Best G5 win so far still not sold on them but they are here till they lose
5 USF - Handled their business against Elon
6 Hawaii- Manhandled a good Navy team
7 Houston - Didn't look as good as they should have against weaker comp
8 UNT - Beat a possible bowl eligible SMU
9 Toledo - Steamrolled VMI
10 Ga State - Look good against a lesser opponent

And your reasoning is??? The ESPN power rankings look like this:

Boise 24
Memphis 35
Fresno State 39
UCF 50
Marshall 57
San Diego St 60
Utah State 63
Toledo 68
Houston 71
USF 73

What is your methodology other than an AAC homer? Explain why Fresno is not in your top 10 when they beat Houston last year and return a majority of their team? How are Marshall and Fresno, using ESPN’s analytics, in their top 5 and not your top 10?

Who cares. These "power rankings" are garbage and aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Totally meaningless ranking someone came up with.

That said, maybe Fresno should be in top 10, I forgot about them. But to me, until someone else runs the table, the AAC champ, whoever that is, or possibly Boise is always going to be in the driver's seat above anyone else. Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

It is still way to early to tell but if Fresno and Boise are undefeated heading into their game at Boise it will be hard to beat either of them. And btw, I merely asked for his methodology. Garbage or not ESPN has a clear methodology and I asked for his.

(09-03-2018 12:33 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 12:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 11:36 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:09 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  I am going to try and keep this updated every week.

So after week 1, this is how I see the top 10 G5 teams for the access bowl.

1 Boise St - handled a Troy St team that will end up being a bowl eligible team
2 UCF - Beat a bad UConn team, as they should have
3 Memphis - Beat an bad FCS team in convincing fashion
4 Cincinnati - Best G5 win so far still not sold on them but they are here till they lose
5 USF - Handled their business against Elon
6 Hawaii- Manhandled a good Navy team
7 Houston - Didn't look as good as they should have against weaker comp
8 UNT - Beat a possible bowl eligible SMU
9 Toledo - Steamrolled VMI
10 Ga State - Look good against a lesser opponent

And your reasoning is??? The ESPN power rankings look like this:

Boise 24
Memphis 35
Fresno State 39
UCF 50
Marshall 57
San Diego St 60
Utah State 63
Toledo 68
Houston 71
USF 73

What is your methodology other than an AAC homer? Explain why Fresno is not in your top 10 when they beat Houston last year and return a majority of their team? How are Marshall and Fresno, using ESPN’s analytics, in their top 5 and not your top 10?

Who cares. These "power rankings" are garbage and aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Totally meaningless ranking someone came up with.

That said, maybe Fresno should be in top 10, I forgot about them. But to me, until someone else runs the table, the AAC champ, whoever that is, or possibly Boise is always going to be in the driver's seat above anyone else. Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

It is still way to early to tell but if Fresno and Boise are undefeated heading into their game at Boise it will be hard to beat either of them.

No more so than an undefeated USF and UCF or UCF and Memphis, or USF and Houston, etc.

For example, if UCF and USF went undefeated going into week 12, UCF would be at around 7-8, and USF around 10-11, IMO. USF was ranked #13 last year after starting 7-0, and we know where UCF ended up.

It would be close though, I will admit that. As an AAC fan, the only team I am even remotely worried about is Boise or an undefeated or 1 loss MWC team who has beaten Boise.

(09-03-2018 12:38 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 12:33 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 12:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 11:36 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:09 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  I am going to try and keep this updated every week.

So after week 1, this is how I see the top 10 G5 teams for the access bowl.

1 Boise St - handled a Troy St team that will end up being a bowl eligible team
2 UCF - Beat a bad UConn team, as they should have
3 Memphis - Beat an bad FCS team in convincing fashion
4 Cincinnati - Best G5 win so far still not sold on them but they are here till they lose
5 USF - Handled their business against Elon
6 Hawaii- Manhandled a good Navy team
7 Houston - Didn't look as good as they should have against weaker comp
8 UNT - Beat a possible bowl eligible SMU
9 Toledo - Steamrolled VMI
10 Ga State - Look good against a lesser opponent

And your reasoning is??? The ESPN power rankings look like this:

Boise 24
Memphis 35
Fresno State 39
UCF 50
Marshall 57
San Diego St 60
Utah State 63
Toledo 68
Houston 71
USF 73

What is your methodology other than an AAC homer? Explain why Fresno is not in your top 10 when they beat Houston last year and return a majority of their team? How are Marshall and Fresno, using ESPN’s analytics, in their top 5 and not your top 10?

Who cares. These "power rankings" are garbage and aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Totally meaningless ranking someone came up with.

That said, maybe Fresno should be in top 10, I forgot about them. But to me, until someone else runs the table, the AAC champ, whoever that is, or possibly Boise is always going to be in the driver's seat above anyone else. Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

It is still way to early to tell but if Fresno and Boise are undefeated heading into their game at Boise it will be hard to beat either of them.

No more so than an undefeated USF and UCF or UCF and Memphis, or USF and Houston, etc.

For example, if UCF and USF went undefeated going into week 12, UCF would be at around 7-8, and USF around 10-11, IMO. USF was ranked #13 last year after starting 7-0, and we know where UCF ended up.

It would be close though, I will admit that. As an AAC fan, the only team I am even remotely worried about is Boise or an undefeated or 1 loss MWC team who has beaten Boise.

Sure. I’m not here to disparage the AAC. If they have two undefeated teams heading into an end of the season match-up it will be close. Fresno’s scheduling sets up nicely this year however.

If they are undefeated (a big if) heading into Boise they will have beaten:
@ Minnesota
@ UCLA
Toledo
Hawaii
Wyoming

Not a bad resume and if they knock off Boise (having beaten OK State) they will be looking pretty good.

I'm gonna spoil this thread now by telling y'all it's gonna be Boise State

(09-03-2018 01:05 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'm gonna spoil this thread now by telling y'all it's gonna be Boise State

Probably will be, but to be so cavalier about it and make such a blanket statement after Week 1 is just silly. Unless of course, he is the Amazing Kreskin.

(09-03-2018 01:05 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I'm gonna spoil this thread now by telling y'all it's gonna be Boise State

Too early to say. Will they get past OK St? That would certainly help them.

(09-03-2018 12:33 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 12:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 11:36 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:09 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  I am going to try and keep this updated every week.

So after week 1, this is how I see the top 10 G5 teams for the access bowl.

1 Boise St - handled a Troy St team that will end up being a bowl eligible team
2 UCF - Beat a bad UConn team, as they should have
3 Memphis - Beat an bad FCS team in convincing fashion
4 Cincinnati - Best G5 win so far still not sold on them but they are here till they lose
5 USF - Handled their business against Elon
6 Hawaii- Manhandled a good Navy team
7 Houston - Didn't look as good as they should have against weaker comp
8 UNT - Beat a possible bowl eligible SMU
9 Toledo - Steamrolled VMI
10 Ga State - Look good against a lesser opponent

And your reasoning is??? The ESPN power rankings look like this:

Boise 24
Memphis 35
Fresno State 39
UCF 50
Marshall 57
San Diego St 60
Utah State 63
Toledo 68
Houston 71
USF 73

What is your methodology other than an AAC homer? Explain why Fresno is not in your top 10 when they beat Houston last year and return a majority of their team? How are Marshall and Fresno, using ESPN’s analytics, in their top 5 and not your top 10?

Who cares. These "power rankings" are garbage and aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Totally meaningless ranking someone came up with.

That said, maybe Fresno should be in top 10, I forgot about them. But to me, until someone else runs the table, the AAC champ, whoever that is, or possibly Boise is always going to be in the driver's seat above anyone else. Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

It is still way to early to tell but if Fresno and Boise are undefeated heading into their game at Boise it will be hard to beat either of them. And btw, I merely asked for his methodology. Garbage or not ESPN has a clear methodology and I asked for his.

The answer to his methodology is easy, there is none


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(09-03-2018 02:28 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 12:33 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 12:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 11:36 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:09 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  I am going to try and keep this updated every week.

So after week 1, this is how I see the top 10 G5 teams for the access bowl.

1 Boise St - handled a Troy St team that will end up being a bowl eligible team
2 UCF - Beat a bad UConn team, as they should have
3 Memphis - Beat an bad FCS team in convincing fashion
4 Cincinnati - Best G5 win so far still not sold on them but they are here till they lose
5 USF - Handled their business against Elon
6 Hawaii- Manhandled a good Navy team
7 Houston - Didn't look as good as they should have against weaker comp
8 UNT - Beat a possible bowl eligible SMU
9 Toledo - Steamrolled VMI
10 Ga State - Look good against a lesser opponent

And your reasoning is??? The ESPN power rankings look like this:

Boise 24
Memphis 35
Fresno State 39
UCF 50
Marshall 57
San Diego St 60
Utah State 63
Toledo 68
Houston 71
USF 73

What is your methodology other than an AAC homer? Explain why Fresno is not in your top 10 when they beat Houston last year and return a majority of their team? How are Marshall and Fresno, using ESPN’s analytics, in their top 5 and not your top 10?

Who cares. These "power rankings" are garbage and aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Totally meaningless ranking someone came up with.

That said, maybe Fresno should be in top 10, I forgot about them. But to me, until someone else runs the table, the AAC champ, whoever that is, or possibly Boise is always going to be in the driver's seat above anyone else. Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

It is still way to early to tell but if Fresno and Boise are undefeated heading into their game at Boise it will be hard to beat either of them. And btw, I merely asked for his methodology. Garbage or not ESPN has a clear methodology and I asked for his.

The answer to his methodology is easy, there is none


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I don’t think that statement is fully accurate. More like whatever is best for the AAC would be his defining philosophy but I wanted to fairly give him a chance.

BYU, are they g5 or A5, if BYU goes undefeated and is ranked highest among all g5 do they go to the access bowl or are they in purgatory vacillating between A5 and g5

(09-03-2018 06:17 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  BYU, are they g5 or A5, if BYU goes undefeated and is ranked highest among all g5 do they go to the access bowl or are they in purgatory vacillating between A5 and g5

The dedicated Access Bowl slot is reserved for the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. As BYU is not in a G5 conference, they are not eligible for that slot.

BYU can only play in an NY6 bowl in one of two ways: If they are ranked in the top 4, they will be in the CFP playoffs. Also, if they are ranked outside the top 4, but are the highest-rated available team and there is an at-large spot open in an Access Bowl (not the dedicated G5 spot), they would be selected for that Access Bowl at-large spot.

Note that this makes BYU inferior to the typical G5 school. A G5 school like Troy has three ways to play in an NY6 bowl - the two ways described above for BYU, and the dedicated Access Bowl slot reserved for the highest rated G5 conference champ.

(09-03-2018 06:52 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 06:17 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  BYU, are they g5 or A5, if BYU goes undefeated and is ranked highest among all g5 do they go to the access bowl or are they in purgatory vacillating between A5 and g5

The dedicated Access Bowl slot is reserved for the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. As BYU is not in a G5 conference, they are not eligible for that slot.

BYU can only play in an NY6 bowl in one of two ways: If they are ranked in the top 4, they will be in the CFP playoffs. Also, if they are ranked outside the top 4, but are the highest-rated available team and there is an at-large spot open in an Access Bowl (not the dedicated G5 spot), they would be selected for that Access Bowl at-large spot.

Note that this makes BYU inferior to the typical G5 school. A G5 school like Troy has three ways to play in an NY6 bowl - the two ways described above for BYU, and the dedicated Access Bowl slot reserved for the highest rated G5 conference champ.

In other words BYU has no shot and is destined for a mid to lower tier bowl every year.

(09-03-2018 07:24 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 06:52 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 06:17 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  BYU, are they g5 or A5, if BYU goes undefeated and is ranked highest among all g5 do they go to the access bowl or are they in purgatory vacillating between A5 and g5

The dedicated Access Bowl slot is reserved for the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. As BYU is not in a G5 conference, they are not eligible for that slot.

BYU can only play in an NY6 bowl in one of two ways: If they are ranked in the top 4, they will be in the CFP playoffs. Also, if they are ranked outside the top 4, but are the highest-rated available team and there is an at-large spot open in an Access Bowl (not the dedicated G5 spot), they would be selected for that Access Bowl at-large spot.

Note that this makes BYU inferior to the typical G5 school. A G5 school like Troy has three ways to play in an NY6 bowl - the two ways described above for BYU, and the dedicated Access Bowl slot reserved for the highest rated G5 conference champ.

In other words BYU has no shot and is destined for a mid to lower tier bowl every year.

I agree, it's very unlikely we will see BYU in an NY6 bowl under the current CFP configuration.

I mean, for all of their history, BYU has arguably never played in an actual Major bowl. The only one that they arguably played in was the 1997 Cotton Bowl, but the Cotton Bowl of that era had lost its SWC tie-in and had slipped from Major status.

(09-03-2018 12:32 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 12:22 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Heck, the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are virtually eliminated now, unless the AAC champ has several losses.

Oh really? So if FAU wins out (which would mean beating UCF), they wouldn't be up there? Or if Marshall runs the table which means wins over NCST (who we had on the ropes last year) and South Carolina, they wouldn't garner some attention? Or how about LA Tech with wins over LSU and Mississippi State? I'm sorry, but CUSA is not out of it.

None of this will happen first of all. And secondly I secondly I’d still give AAC champ the nod if records are equivalent.