Tulane is overcoming 16 years of a president hellbent on destroying athletics. Freaking UCONN grads.

Funny thing is he led the original "p6" crusade against the BCS after the 98 season. Less funny is that his crusade caused Tulane to miss out on p5 invites several times.

The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

(09-16-2018 08:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

(09-16-2018 08:48 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

Short answer: Yes. (see Stanford)

SMU is strange to me. They have the money all they need to do is replicate what TCU did. If I was SMU I would redo the football stadium with mostly luxury seating and a decent size student section with tons of amenities. They are a rich private school and their students expect to be pampered so give it to them and they’ll show up for football games.

Yes, yes they can all be good at football again. The current state of these programs combined is about 1/10th the suck that was Temple football. In 2000 we were kicked out of Big East football on merit. In 2001 the Trustees came within one vote of dropping football. If we can come back from that than any of these three can overcome their current woes and play great football.

(09-16-2018 06:33 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Tulane and Tulsa were bad additions to the conference. The league should have looked at Marshall. Ideal scenario would have also included Army.

North: UConn, Temple, Cincinnati,Army, Navy, Marshall
South: UCF, USF, ECU, Houston, SMU, Memphis

I believe this would helped the conference separate even further from the other G5 leagues. It would have created a north division that would sit in the old big east footprint, which would have UConn and Cincinnati.

You’re wrong. AAC has the right mix. Not everyone can be 10-2 at the same time. Two service academies would not work with your P6 narrative at all. And Marshall would be a poor academic fit. Stay the course.


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(09-16-2018 08:50 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:48 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

Short answer: Yes. (see Stanford)

Stanford is an anomaly when it comes to academics/football. Look at the other prestigious FBS schools: Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc...

Tulane/Tulsa/SMU have as good of a chance of becoming the new Stanford as UCONN has of becoming the new Ohio State.

(09-16-2018 09:32 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:50 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:48 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

Short answer: Yes. (see Stanford)

Stanford is an anomaly when it comes to academics/football. Look at the other prestigious FBS schools: Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc...

Tulane/Tulsa/SMU have as good of a chance of becoming the new Stanford as UCONN has of becoming the new Ohio State.

Notre Dame
USC
Miami
TCU
Baylor


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(09-16-2018 09:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:32 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:50 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:48 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

Short answer: Yes. (see Stanford)

Stanford is an anomaly when it comes to academics/football. Look at the other prestigious FBS schools: Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc...

Tulane/Tulsa/SMU have as good of a chance of becoming the new Stanford as UCONN has of becoming the new Ohio State.

Notre Dame
USC
Miami
TCU
Baylor


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Miami/TCU/Baylor??? None of those are Top 50. TCU is closer to 100.

FBS Schools in the USNWR Top 30:

Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
Vandy
Rice
Notre Dame
UCLA
Cal
USC
Virginia
Michigan
Wake
UNC

The only 2 that stand out to me are Stanford and Notre Dame. USC and Michigan certainly aren't what they used to be.

(09-16-2018 09:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:32 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:50 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:48 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

Short answer: Yes. (see Stanford)

Stanford is an anomaly when it comes to academics/football. Look at the other prestigious FBS schools: Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc...

Tulane/Tulsa/SMU have as good of a chance of becoming the new Stanford as UCONN has of becoming the new Ohio State.

Notre Dame
USC
Miami
TCU
Baylor


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Miami/TCU/Baylor??? None of those are Top 50. TCU is closer to 100.

FBS Schools in the USNWR Top 30:

Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
Vandy
Rice
Notre Dame
UCLA
Cal
USC
Virginia
Michigan
Wake
UNC

The only 2 that stand out to me are Stanford and Notre Dame. USC and Michigan certainly aren't what they used to be.

Are we talking about private schools with limited resources due to size or are we talking Top 50 academic schools?


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(09-16-2018 09:54 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:32 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:50 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  Short answer: Yes. (see Stanford)

Stanford is an anomaly when it comes to academics/football. Look at the other prestigious FBS schools: Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc...

Tulane/Tulsa/SMU have as good of a chance of becoming the new Stanford as UCONN has of becoming the new Ohio State.

Notre Dame
USC
Miami
TCU
Baylor


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Miami/TCU/Baylor??? None of those are Top 50. TCU is closer to 100.

FBS Schools in the USNWR Top 30:

Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
Vandy
Rice
Notre Dame
UCLA
Cal
USC
Virginia
Michigan
Wake
UNC

The only 2 that stand out to me are Stanford and Notre Dame. USC and Michigan certainly aren't what they used to be.

Are we talking about private schools with limited resources due to size or are we talking Top 50 academic schools?


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Exactly. Compare the enrollment sizes of those schools...

(09-16-2018 09:54 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:32 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:50 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  Short answer: Yes. (see Stanford)

Stanford is an anomaly when it comes to academics/football. Look at the other prestigious FBS schools: Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc...

Tulane/Tulsa/SMU have as good of a chance of becoming the new Stanford as UCONN has of becoming the new Ohio State.

Notre Dame
USC
Miami
TCU
Baylor


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Miami/TCU/Baylor??? None of those are Top 50. TCU is closer to 100.

FBS Schools in the USNWR Top 30:

Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
Vandy
Rice
Notre Dame
UCLA
Cal
USC
Virginia
Michigan
Wake
UNC

The only 2 that stand out to me are Stanford and Notre Dame. USC and Michigan certainly aren't what they used to be.

Are we talking about private schools with limited resources due to size or are we talking Top 50 academic schools?


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Should keep the comparisons to private schools

Lol @ this thread

(09-16-2018 10:03 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:54 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:32 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

Stanford is an anomaly when it comes to academics/football. Look at the other prestigious FBS schools: Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc...

Tulane/Tulsa/SMU have as good of a chance of becoming the new Stanford as UCONN has of becoming the new Ohio State.

Notre Dame
USC
Miami
TCU
Baylor


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Miami/TCU/Baylor??? None of those are Top 50. TCU is closer to 100.

FBS Schools in the USNWR Top 30:

Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
Vandy
Rice
Notre Dame
UCLA
Cal
USC
Virginia
Michigan
Wake
UNC

The only 2 that stand out to me are Stanford and Notre Dame. USC and Michigan certainly aren't what they used to be.

Are we talking about private schools with limited resources due to size or are we talking Top 50 academic schools?


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Should keep the comparisons to private schools

I don’t see why Tulane and Tulsa cannot win with the right coaches and support. Every time a team is down these threads appear and then they win 9 games and everyone has short term memory loss.


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SMU showed fight against Michigan, good things are a coming IMHO. Tulsa and Tulane, I just don't know....

(09-16-2018 07:16 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 07:15 AM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 06:55 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  I like what I saw yesterday even in defeat and we have the #1 recruiting class in the conference. Sonny finally sat Ben Hicks and our freshman qb moved the ball.

Look at what Chad is doing in Arkansas.

Funny from an ECU fan.

SMU’s last P5 win was in 2011. ECUs was last week.

Let me know when you are good in any sport

But Sandra Bullock

I'd just like for ECU to be good again. I can see it coming, but damn it seems far away.

As for those guys, I have all the confidence in the world that Tulsa will be good again pretty soon. Tulane is steadying now. SMU is the one I just don't get.

(09-16-2018 08:48 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

The Naval Academy had a 9.7% admissions rate in 2017 and they are always good.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/...#secScores

I think they'll be fine, Tulsa completely pantsed Memphis in Memphis just 2 years ago. Even in CUSA they were a winning program. Just life outside of the P5.

(09-16-2018 12:15 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:48 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The answer is yes. Program fortures tend to cycle and sometimes quickly (for better or worse). Memphis is an example.

Have always been a fan of Memphis....My biggest concern for the three in question is admission standards. Boise for example has an 80 percent admission rate. Ark State who beat Tulsa has a 70 percent acceptance rate vs Tulsa who sits at 44 percent.

With a shrinking pool of high school players who even play football any more, can these schools compete at the level needed to have success.

The Naval Academy had a 9.7% admissions rate in 2017 and they are always good.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/...#secScores

I think they'll be fine, Tulsa completely pantsed Memphis in Memphis just 2 years ago. Even in CUSA they were a winning program. Just life outside of the P5.

You realize USNA doesn't follow normal recruiting? They can literally bring in 75 football players a year.