All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

(09-17-2018 07:38 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

I like made up stuff

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Long term the small schools will not be able to keep spending at the levels of their larger rivals. Larger schools get more money from attendance, alumni contributions, and "taxing" students. Some may not have noticed but large schools are increasing rapidly in enrollment. There won't be immediate differences but utimately there will be large differences in spending. That will make major differences in facilities, coaches, full cost of attendance, and recruiting.

Lower levels of spending by small schools in the AAC will have a negative affect on the status of the larger members. I believe it is safe to say that UCF will bring money to AAC schools including the small ones. The small schools, well, they will take.

(09-17-2018 09:20 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Long term the small schools will not be able to keep spending at the levels of their larger rivals. Larger schools get more money from attendance, alumni contributions, and "taxing" students. Some may not have noticed but large schools are increasing rapidly in enrollment. There won't be immediate differences but utimately there will be large differences in spending. That will make major differences in facilities, coaches, full cost of attendance, and recruiting.

Lower levels of spending by small schools in the AAC will have a negative affect on the status of the larger members. I believe it is safe to say that UCF will bring money to AAC schools including the small ones. The small schools, well, they will take.

Conversely the smaller schools have more monied alumni and don’t have to “tax” their students which by the way is falling out of fashion with state legislatures. The right hires at private schools can energize the base and open the purse strings. The problem is that the recent hires have not been exciting.


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(09-17-2018 07:38 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

UCONN will be in the BE tomorrow with a rule like that and Navy will return to being an independent for FB again. Good luck on any future "P6" TV revenue separating the AAC from the rest of the G5 conferences after that.

(09-17-2018 07:38 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

How much of a cut for going 0-12?

Tulsa was dominant in CUSA. and has gone to a bowl game while in the AAC...so they probably don't deserve to be mentioned. For these small private schools it is hard to win year in and year out... Tulane seems to be real close to getting it turned around.... SMU worries me though...

SMU can win. I think Tulane’s ceiling is at 5-7 wins.

(09-17-2018 07:38 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

Why should ECU get a payout when they beat a crap team that nearly anyone in the American could have beaten?

(09-18-2018 12:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Tulsa was dominant in CUSA. and has gone to a bowl game while in the AAC...so they probably don't deserve to be mentioned. For these small private schools it is hard to win year in and year out... Tulane seems to be real close to getting it turned around.... SMU worries me though...

2 bowls actually. Played Va. Tech extremely close, then blew out an overrated Central Michigan team.

I hope everyone knows that the same arguments that are being lobbed here are the ones being lobbed at UCF, Houston, etc... when they're talked about in reference to the UT's and Florida's of the world. Hope it feels good guys.

(09-17-2018 07:38 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

Ok. But only if the AAC MBB teams that actually make the tourney get to split that year's tourney credit pool. Fair is fair.

When I make my first Billion Im gonna donate so much *** **** money to Tulsa, build the biggest Gazebo ever. Pay fans to fill the seats and have a giant gold statue of Me and Bearcats1 sitting at our lap tops in heated battle.

(09-18-2018 07:05 AM)vick mike Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 07:38 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

How much of a cut for going 0-12?

Yeah sounds nice when you're good but everyone has bad years. Think a system like that would help ensure a bad year cascades to more bad years. Not exactly looking out for the conf as a whole.

(09-17-2018 07:38 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  All I know is that we should start adjusting the conference revenue payout based on results. Beat a P5 team? Get a bonus. Lose to a G4? Take a cut.

Kinda of like Thunderdome law. Bust a deal, face the wheel.

yes, everyone has down years. But some take longer to rebuild.

(09-18-2018 02:33 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I hope everyone knows that the same arguments that are being lobbed here are the ones being lobbed at UCF, Houston, etc... when they're talked about in reference to the UT's and Florida's of the world. Hope it feels good guys.

So you're agreeing there's as big of a gap between the UCFs and Houston with Florida as there is with Tulane, Tulsa and the AAC publics. Great.

I don't think the privates really have much of a place in the AAC. Thankfully for them, I don't think Vanderbilt or Wake do in their conferences either. Even Syracuse and BC probably don't have the resources to be competitive enough in football to produce enough value for the ACC. Could be something there in the next realignment.

Realistically, having Tulane and Tulsa at the top of the league would be worse case scenario. Tv networks would frown on the atmosphere at those games, unlike the ucf- so Florida game, or Memphis-Houston match ups, it would make the entire league look bad.

Tulsa would easily pack Chapman out if we would just beat OU, OSU, or Arkansas a few times. Unfortunately we cant even accomplish that. But then, neither can a #17 Boise State so there you go. That's the dilemma we face in this state though.

(09-18-2018 05:42 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:33 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I hope everyone knows that the same arguments that are being lobbed here are the ones being lobbed at UCF, Houston, etc... when they're talked about in reference to the UT's and Florida's of the world. Hope it feels good guys.

So you're agreeing there's as big of a gap between the UCFs and Houston with Florida as there is with Tulane, Tulsa and the AAC publics. Great.

I don't think the privates really have much of a place in the AAC. Thankfully for them, I don't think Vanderbilt or Wake do in their conferences either. Even Syracuse and BC probably don't have the resources to be competitive enough in football to produce enough value for the ACC. Could be something there in the next realignment.

No, I think we are much closer than that. I just think UCF Cincy and Houston are so sick of getting kicked around by the big boys as far as alignment and perception goes that they like to take it out on teams that have whooped their buts many more times than they’ve beaten decent P5 teams.