(11-14-2018 01:36 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-13-2018 05:00 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 11:42 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 07:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 05:15 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I wonder if the LV Bowl will still be played at the same timeframe.
LV Bowl committee want the bowl during their dead period. After Christmas the hotels are already full.

FWIW--At least one G5 AD has hinted that a bowl pool of the top G5's is a possbility in the next bowl cycle.

If the trend of P5 trying to avoid G5 match-ups continues it makes perfect sense that the four champions not in the Access game have two bowls set aside to create the best possible G5 game and then match the other two champs.

You may have missed the memo,but the AAC will never agree to anything that ties them to the other g5s or their champions. I'm not trying to be an ashsole but they've already said as much the last time someone brought up the idea of a g5 set of bowls or some type of playoff nonsense.

Maybe you missed my caveat. The continuation of P5's trying to avoid G5's in bowls. If AAC can't get a P5 opponent, they can sit their ass at home.

IF
IF the AAC loses the Gasparilla Bowl with tie-ins with the ACC
AND the Armed Forces Bowl and BigXII tie in
AND the Birmingham Bowl with SEC oppponent (and secondary contract with ACC)
AND the Military Bowl with the ACC.

Okay.

(11-11-2018 03:18 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 02:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 02:18 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Here is my take on this. P5 can not claim Las Vegas Bowl as their own. It it the home site of the MWC unless the PAC 12 invites one of the Nevada schools and 3 other MWC schools to be PAC 16. In other words. These bowls that are not even in any of the P5 home state or home city is hands off.

Well unfortunately, your opinion doesn't matter. The LV bowl can sign a deal with two P5 conferences if they are willing.

Exactly. Not sure what David is upset about. He should focus on Upper Iowa getting to the Big 10 in 2070

^ Now that is some funny stuff right there.

(11-13-2018 10:17 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The AAC and MWC would never participate in such a thing but the MAC, SBC, and C-USA should make a deal with 3 bowls for the top 2 teams from those conferences. This would gaurantee a match up between conference champs as well as provide a good opponent for the third winner.

Myrtle Beach bowl come on down......

Today the AState AD hinted there was more in works on this and that we’d probably be hearing about it in a few weeks. Based on what we know—I’m going to guess it’s a 3-way bowl pool designed to provide the champs from the Sunbelt, MAC, and CUSA the best matchups they can get—probably headlined by a champ vs champ game each year.

If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

(11-14-2018 06:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

It won’t. The LV Bowl is getting an upgraded Pac12 pick—so you have to figure the back end of the Pac12 lineup will all get bumped down a pick. Thier 8th pick had no contractual bowl tie last year—so at the very least that woukd be a Pac12 opponent option for the MW.

(11-14-2018 06:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

It won’t. The LV Bowl is getting an upgraded Pac12 pick—so you have to figure the back end of the Pac12 lineup will all get bumped down a pick. Thier 8th pick had no contractual bowl tie last year—so at the very least that woukd be a Pac12 opponent option for the MW.

It will all depend on WHEN the LV bowl is. The same time frame isn't going to work with another P5 conference like the Big 12 or SEC.

IF the LV bowl wants 2 P5's then it will have to move the date to after Christmas, and then the LV could possibly replace the Alamo Bowl as the #2 bowl.

(11-14-2018 06:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

I think Las Vegas Bowl will replace the Holiday in the pecking order. Probably the Sun Bowl might move on the pecking order but the advantage the Holiday has is San Diego is a destination city and El Paso is not.

How big or small the new stadium is going to be? Will the Big Ten keep the Holiday tie in? Is the Pac-12 #3 willing to play the MWC champ in case the Big Ten leaves? Is San Diego attractive enough for two P5s to play in a 35k stadium?

(11-14-2018 06:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

It won’t. The LV Bowl is getting an upgraded Pac12 pick—so you have to figure the back end of the Pac12 lineup will all get bumped down a pick. Thier 8th pick had no contractual bowl tie last year—so at the very least that woukd be a Pac12 opponent option for the MW.

It will all depend on WHEN the LV bowl is. The same time frame isn't going to work with another P5 conference like the Big 12 or SEC.

IF the LV bowl wants 2 P5's then it will have to move the date to after Christmas, and then the LV could possibly replace the Alamo Bowl as the #2 bowl.

They can't move it much after Christmas. Room rates skyrocket and availability decreases as New Years approaches, especially this year where New Years is essentially a long weekend

(11-14-2018 08:51 PM)PGEMF Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

It won’t. The LV Bowl is getting an upgraded Pac12 pick—so you have to figure the back end of the Pac12 lineup will all get bumped down a pick. Thier 8th pick had no contractual bowl tie last year—so at the very least that woukd be a Pac12 opponent option for the MW.

It will all depend on WHEN the LV bowl is. The same time frame isn't going to work with another P5 conference like the Big 12 or SEC.

IF the LV bowl wants 2 P5's then it will have to move the date to after Christmas, and then the LV could possibly replace the Alamo Bowl as the #2 bowl.

They can't move it much after Christmas. Room rates skyrocket and availability decreases as New Years approaches, especially this year where New Years is essentially a long weekend

The room rental issue may not be that big a deal during that period once the NFL comes to Vegas. I can see Raiders games being a very popular roadie for NFL fans. If your upgrading team selections, its going to have to be an after Christmas bowl--otherwise Vegas wont get the much of an upgrade.

(11-14-2018 08:51 PM)PGEMF Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

It won’t. The LV Bowl is getting an upgraded Pac12 pick—so you have to figure the back end of the Pac12 lineup will all get bumped down a pick. Thier 8th pick had no contractual bowl tie last year—so at the very least that woukd be a Pac12 opponent option for the MW.

It will all depend on WHEN the LV bowl is. The same time frame isn't going to work with another P5 conference like the Big 12 or SEC.

IF the LV bowl wants 2 P5's then it will have to move the date to after Christmas, and then the LV could possibly replace the Alamo Bowl as the #2 bowl.

They can't move it much after Christmas. Room rates skyrocket and availability decreases as New Years approaches, especially this year where New Years is essentially a long weekend

Which is why the LV Bowl commission has the bowl on Dec 15th . They hotels are booked solid already for New Years.

(11-14-2018 07:24 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 06:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(11-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If the MWC loses LV look for them to move their champ to the Holiday Bowl or the bowl in SF.

Otherwise now known as the Redbox Bowl this year.

If the Holiday keeps it's #3 spot, then this will be pretty good for the MW.

I think Las Vegas Bowl will replace the Holiday in the pecking order. Probably the Sun Bowl might move on the pecking order but the advantage the Holiday has is San Diego is a destination city and El Paso is not.

How big or small the new stadium is going to be? Will the Big Ten keep the Holiday tie in? Is the Pac-12 #3 willing to play the MWC champ in case the Big Ten leaves? Is San Diego attractive enough for two P5s to play in a 35k stadium?

Holiday may drop out of the PAC's lineup entirely because of the stadium issue, or it could move to LA as some have speculated slated to play in the new Rams stadium.

San Diego can then reinvent the Poinsettia Bowl as a G5 game featuring the MWC.

(11-14-2018 11:07 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Holiday may drop out of the PAC's lineup entirely because of the stadium issue, or it could move to LA as some have speculated slated to play in the new Rams stadium.

San Diego can then reinvent the Poinsettia Bowl as a G5 game featuring the MWC.

I would expect that when the new Rams stadium opens up it will be awarded a bowl game which the Pac-12 would jump on effectively replacing what they currently have in the Holiday Bowl but I doubt the Holiday Bowl is dropped from the Pac12's line-up entirely. Bowl games in SoCal are too valuable to the Pac-12 schools to abandon as long as there is a feasible option to host them, if the Pac-12 was fine playing at Sam Boyd I doubt they would have a problem playing in the heart of San Diego at a new SDSU stadium.