Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

so much for the sports rights bubble....

MLB got from looks of it a 5.1 billion deal for 7 years from Fox. That's about 727 million per year- a raise of 38.8% from their current 525 million per year deal with Fox.

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

And, if they're taking MLB playoff games off of FS1, it makes you wonder whether Fox is giving up on trying to make FS1 a serious competitor to ESPN channels.

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

I don't know, live sports is still a ratings getter, especially football. Fox recently spent $$$ to get Smackdown so maybe this is a shift in thinking to carry more live sport and sports entertainment.

Beats yet another reality "Survivor" rip off....

(11-15-2018 11:59 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

And, if they're taking MLB playoff games off of FS1, it makes you wonder whether Fox is giving up on trying to make FS1 a serious competitor to ESPN channels.

That's an interesting thought. I don't know if it's the case or not- but if so.

I think one thing that FS1 struggles with that ESPN doesn't is that if a game is a blowout, they can transfer it over to ESPNews or whatever and no one thinks twice about it. FS1 can't do it.

(11-15-2018 12:12 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

I don't know, live sports is still a ratings getter, especially football. Fox recently spent $$$ to get Smackdown so maybe this is a shift in thinking to carry more live sport and sports entertainment.

Beats yet another reality "Survivor" rip off....

[Corso]Not so fast my friend...[/Corso]

While you're right - live sporting events are assuredly better than some of the crap that gets on the air, especially to those of us who are sports fans - it's not quite as simple as that. Networks make their money from the ads they sell and the profit margin compared to the amount they spend for rights. Part of the value for live sporting events isn't so much the ratings as it is the fact that they're practically DVR proof. No real sports fan likes watching a game they remotely care about after the outcome is known. And advertisers know this, which is why advertising costs more for live sporting events.

But the trade-off is the cost of rights. If a network owns a show like 60 Minutes or 48 Hours or something like that, it costs them next to nothing, they can rebroadcast it multiple times, and they can generate more profit even with lower ratings.

USFFan

(11-15-2018 12:20 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 12:12 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

I don't know, live sports is still a ratings getter, especially football. Fox recently spent $$$ to get Smackdown so maybe this is a shift in thinking to carry more live sport and sports entertainment.

Beats yet another reality "Survivor" rip off....

[Corso]Not so fast my friend...[/Corso]

While you're right - live sporting events are assuredly better than some of the crap that gets on the air, especially to those of us who are sports fans - it's not quite as simple as that. Networks make their money from the ads they sell and the profit margin compared to the amount they spend for rights. Part of the value for live sporting events isn't so much the ratings as it is the fact that they're practically DVR proof. No real sports fan likes watching a game they remotely care about after the outcome is known. And advertisers know this, which is why advertising costs more for live sporting events.

But the trade-off is the cost of rights. If a network owns a show like 60 Minutes or 48 Hours or something like that, it costs them next to nothing, they can rebroadcast it multiple times, and they can generate more profit even with lower ratings.

USFFan

Wall Street will reward you more for spending $500,000 to generate a $1 million profit than spending $2 million to net a profit of $1 million.

I believe you'll see Fox bidding on the AAC and Big XII to play the primary part of their FS1 line up.

I was traveling during the LCS and couldn't even watch in my hotel because they didn't carry FS1.

(11-15-2018 12:45 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  I was traveling during the LCS and couldn't even watch in my hotel because they didn't carry FS1.

yeah I think that's probably going to be a big part of it. And I think we may see MLB try to push Fox into things a bit sooner than 2022 quite frankly.

(11-15-2018 12:44 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  I believe you'll see Fox bidding on the AAC and Big XII to play the primary part of their FS1 line up.

I dont think FOX will be an AAC bidder. I just dont think they need the inventory becasue I dont see where they have a bunch of unfilled windows.

(11-15-2018 01:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 12:44 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  I believe you'll see Fox bidding on the AAC and Big XII to play the primary part of their FS1 line up.

I dont think FOX will be an AAC bidder. I just dont think they need the inventory becasue I dont see where they have a bunch of unfilled windows.

They will be saving their powder for the P5. They might want the AAC if they get the Fox regionals back.

FOX going to make a run for the SEC game of the week I bet. FOX putting more playoffs on FOX, clears windows on FS1 which they need filled.

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

I hope they can get an improved broadcast team.

(11-15-2018 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:59 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

And, if they're taking MLB playoff games off of FS1, it makes you wonder whether Fox is giving up on trying to make FS1 a serious competitor to ESPN channels.

That's an interesting thought. I don't know if it's the case or not- but if so.

I think one thing that FS1 struggles with that ESPN doesn't is that if a game is a blowout, they can transfer it over to ESPNews or whatever and no one thinks twice about it. FS1 can't do it.

So preempting informercials on Fox Business with spillover games is a bad thing?

Quote:Fox Sports CEO & Exec Producer Eric Shanks talked to THE DAILY about the net's new seven-year extension of its MLB deal that is worth $5.1B.

Q: Why do this deal three years before the current one ends?
Shanks: It provides predictability for New Fox. It puts a cap to an incredible year of setting up predictability for New Fox. With the commitment that this company has to live, premium sports, it really sets New Fox up as the leader in live sports for a long time to come.

Q: What is the New Fox strategy?
Shanks: The strategy is live, premium sports that capture the nation’s attention that have a real healthy mix of broadcast and cable. These are the jewel events that Major League Baseball has. Being able to make sure that you have those events that capture the nation’s attention and are the premier events with a partner -- that’s the key to the strategy.

Q: Does this provide a template for opening other rights deals early?
Shanks: You have to have two willing parties. Each deal will be unique depending on the circumstance. We can’t unilaterally say that we want to go early and start a process. Our partnerships with our cornerstone leagues have been there for a long time. You want to make sure that you have the predictability with those partners as much as possible.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail...ks-QA.aspx

(11-15-2018 04:50 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:59 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

And, if they're taking MLB playoff games off of FS1, it makes you wonder whether Fox is giving up on trying to make FS1 a serious competitor to ESPN channels.

That's an interesting thought. I don't know if it's the case or not- but if so.

I think one thing that FS1 struggles with that ESPN doesn't is that if a game is a blowout, they can transfer it over to ESPNews or whatever and no one thinks twice about it. FS1 can't do it.

So preempting informercials on Fox Business with spillover games is a bad thing?

the only time they do spillover games thing is when there's a crazy weather type of delay.....

They haven't tried to develop FS2 really at all.

one thing that I think is funny is one of the highest rated MLB events still is ESPN's- the Home Run Derby. That's coming close to outdrawing the All Star Game itself.

(11-15-2018 11:35 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 11:02 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Just saw that MLB has resigned with Fox thru 2028.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-complet...-300757548

This is the first property of many that's up in the next few years- MLB, NFL, NHL, and then eventually Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12, and SEC CBS package.......

Will be really interesting to see just how much changes with all these new deals....

The one big part of the MLB announcement- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

So would think the days of at least the LCS being on FS1 are probably numbered..

Keeps limits on the amount of time they can apply to CFB.

No it's not, the two don't overlap much. It'll effect like 3 weekends early in the season.