(03-13-2019 05:11 AM)St. Augustine Owl Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:57 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  One less bid available. Temple has to win at least 2 games imo.

No, they are solidly in if...they beat Wichita on Friday. Lose Friday and they are either last team in or last team out. Hoping Shizz and the boys know this.

How are you that confident? Your net ranking would end up in the middle 50's losing Friday. And I'm rooting for Temple too. Just being realistic here.

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:58 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:56 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:54 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:30 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  St Mary's trying to narrow the bubble

And they did it! Temple really didn't need this, but it's still cool to see.

I'm all for good mid majors stealing bids. I don't think St Mary's qualifies. Would have rather Gonzaga won and saved that spot for Temple

They were 33 kenpom heading into tonight (one spot ahead of my Bearcats). They're plenty good

They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

(03-13-2019 08:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:58 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:56 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:54 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  And they did it! Temple really didn't need this, but it's still cool to see.

I'm all for good mid majors stealing bids. I don't think St Mary's qualifies. Would have rather Gonzaga won and saved that spot for Temple

They were 33 kenpom heading into tonight (one spot ahead of my Bearcats). They're plenty good

They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

The Selection Committee is using NET so let's do the same.

4. Houston
27. UC
28. UCF
50. Temple
53. Memphis
89. Tulsa
90. Wichita
95. UCONN
97. USF
103. SMU
258. ECU
297. Tulane

2. Gonzaga
34. St Marys
72. San Francisco
85. BYU
99. San Diego
142. Loyola
167. Pepperdine
183. Santa Clara
213. Pacific
326. Portland

No contest. Even Tulane has their bottom team beat.

(03-13-2019 08:19 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:58 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:56 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  I'm all for good mid majors stealing bids. I don't think St Mary's qualifies. Would have rather Gonzaga won and saved that spot for Temple

They were 33 kenpom heading into tonight (one spot ahead of my Bearcats). They're plenty good

They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

The Selection Committee is using NET so let's do the same.

4. Houston
27. UC
28. UCF
50. Temple
53. Memphis
89. Tulsa
90. Wichita
95. UCONN
97. USF
103. SMU
258. ECU
297. Tulane

2. Gonzaga
34. St Marys
72. San Francisco
85. BYU
99. San Diego
142. Loyola
167. Pepperdine
183. Santa Clara
213. Pacific
326. Portland

No contest. Even Tulane has their bottom team beat.

I'm not specifically talking about selection just quality. I value kenpom more than an net formula that we don't even know exactly what is in it. The point wasn't that the Wcc is as good or better than the American (it's not). The point was the wcc is a solid conference with good teams.

(03-13-2019 08:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:58 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:56 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:54 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  And they did it! Temple really didn't need this, but it's still cool to see.

I'm all for good mid majors stealing bids. I don't think St Mary's qualifies. Would have rather Gonzaga won and saved that spot for Temple

They were 33 kenpom heading into tonight (one spot ahead of my Bearcats). They're plenty good

They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

We might just have to agree to disagree then.

As normal with St. Mary's most of their games are bad. 20 games in Q3 or 4. Losses to UC Irvine, Harvard, Pepperdine, WKU.

Clemson may have just punched their ticket to the NIT

(03-13-2019 01:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Clemson may have just punched their ticket to the NIT

I think with the St. Mary's bid they are. NCST probably needs one more win to feel safe but they probably just climbed the bubble some.

(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:58 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:56 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  I'm all for good mid majors stealing bids. I don't think St Mary's qualifies. Would have rather Gonzaga won and saved that spot for Temple

They were 33 kenpom heading into tonight (one spot ahead of my Bearcats). They're plenty good

They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

We might just have to agree to disagree then.

As normal with St. Mary's most of their games are bad. 20 games in Q3 or 4. Losses to UC Irvine, Harvard, Pepperdine, WKU.

UC Irvine is actually very good this year, and is quad 1 or very close to it.


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(03-13-2019 05:59 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 09:58 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  They were 33 kenpom heading into tonight (one spot ahead of my Bearcats). They're plenty good

They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

We might just have to agree to disagree then.

As normal with St. Mary's most of their games are bad. 20 games in Q3 or 4. Losses to UC Irvine, Harvard, Pepperdine, WKU.

UC Irvine is actually very good this year, and is quad 1 or very close to it.


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It was a Q3 loss for them... So no.

The Comity uses "NET", and the reason we don't know exactly how it works is because they don't want anyone to know to repress arguments when even the better non-power conferences don't get their deserving teams in the NCAA Tournament...

Sooner rather than later, the Power conferences will monopolize All NCAA post season tournament to keep other conferences to 1 bid until they figure out how to get rid of all non-power conferences out of the NCAA Tournament and give the "Lesser" NIT to non-power conferences.

And temple "should" be in without anther victory, but now I believe they nee a minimum of one more victory and perhaps two if here is an unexpected Conference Tournament Champion from any of the conference tournaments that haven't been played yet.

(03-13-2019 06:41 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  The Comity uses "NET", and the reason we don't know exactly how it works is because they don't want anyone to know to repress arguments when even the better non-power conferences don't get their deserving teams in the NCAA Tournament...

Sooner rather than later, the Power conferences will monopolize All NCAA post season tournament to keep other conferences to 1 bid until they figure out how to get rid of all non-power conferences out of the NCAA Tournament and give the "Lesser" NIT to non-power conferences.

And temple "should" be in without anther victory, but now I believe they nee a minimum of one more victory and perhaps two if here is an unexpected Conference Tournament Champion from any of the conference tournaments that haven't been played yet.

Maybe an agenda to limit 1 team per non power conference, but they will never get rid of the Cinderella story. That's what makes March madness.

(03-13-2019 06:33 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 05:59 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

We might just have to agree to disagree then.

As normal with St. Mary's most of their games are bad. 20 games in Q3 or 4. Losses to UC Irvine, Harvard, Pepperdine, WKU.

UC Irvine is actually very good this year, and is quad 1 or very close to it.


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It was a Q3 loss for them... So no.

UC-Irvine is number 76, they played at home.

Providence doing Temple and Wichita a solid right now. Plastering Butler to eliminate their at large hopes and climbing the rankings to help out WSU's NET.

(03-13-2019 07:21 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 06:41 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  The Comity uses "NET", and the reason we don't know exactly how it works is because they don't want anyone to know to repress arguments when even the better non-power conferences don't get their deserving teams in the NCAA Tournament...

Sooner rather than later, the Power conferences will monopolize All NCAA post season tournament to keep other conferences to 1 bid until they figure out how to get rid of all non-power conferences out of the NCAA Tournament and give the "Lesser" NIT to non-power conferences.

And temple "should" be in without anther victory, but now I believe they nee a minimum of one more victory and perhaps two if here is an unexpected Conference Tournament Champion from any of the conference tournaments that haven't been played yet.

Maybe an agenda to limit 1 team per non power conference, but they will never get rid of the Cinderella story. That's what makes March madness.

I sure hope you are right and I'm wrong... I'm looking at what Oklahoma started by suing the NCAA to take TV rights away from the NCAA and started this drive towards big conferences of today and the different levels within division 1 football.

I'd hate to see that in other sports.

I feel like we've done enough and truly believe that it being Dunphy's last year will help us. Finding coaches with integrity is difficult in this climate. Dunphy, for his other shortcomings, is certainly one of those guys.

Over the line!!!

Mark it two.

Oklahoma is entering a world of pain. West Virgin Boomers the sooners.

(03-13-2019 10:36 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Over the line!!!

Mark it two.

Oklahoma is entering a world of pain. West Virgin Boomers the sooners.

Nah. Committee will call this a quality loss.

(03-13-2019 10:43 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 10:36 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Over the line!!!

Mark it two.

Oklahoma is entering a world of pain. West Virgin Boomers the sooners.

Nah. Committee will call this a quality loss.

Maybe, they could still make it in. Would be funny to watch the committee defend a 7 and 12 team in conference getting a bid. Especially one who feasted on cupcakes ooc.

ESPN loves to build hype, but it's less than a coins flip chance. OU needs a lot to fall right to get in.

The committee may win the battle on this, but it will be a nail in the coffin for the war. Every sub .500 in conference team sliding in to the dancing shoes will just be gas on the fire for the anti NET people and the pro criteria people. 7-12 OU and likely 8-12 TCU are perfect examples.

(03-13-2019 06:33 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 05:59 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 08:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:05 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  They also lost 11 games including 5 in a pretty bad conference

It's the 8th rated conference by kenpom with as many top 100 kenpom teams as the American. The west coast conference is a solid league.

We might just have to agree to disagree then.

As normal with St. Mary's most of their games are bad. 20 games in Q3 or 4. Losses to UC Irvine, Harvard, Pepperdine, WKU.

UC Irvine is actually very good this year, and is quad 1 or very close to it.


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It was a Q3 loss for them... So no.

shocking that the troll would have no clue.

Don't be sad Temple. You will at least be hosting a game or two soon.