(03-17-2019 05:00 PM)shockerfan1313 Wrote:  I dont know. Just nothing better than having a chance to go out after games to some bars and mingle with other teams fans. I have bought plenty of beers for other teams fans, talked basketball and really gotten to know good people from all over.

I would HATE to lose that. At that point it wouldnt feel like a tournament. Just an extension of the conference season.

It replicates the NCAA tournament feel for the teams as well. It's a no brainer and this has to be trolling.

We need to stop making this a location problem and acknowledge that it’s a fanbase problem.

Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, and probably Memphis (just guessing) have a worse traveling fanbase than Northern Iowa. Which makes Memphis and Fort Worth decent locations but they won’t have a lot of fans. Any location involving them is not going to result in a packed house. How many Temple fans went to the UConn tournament? If it was less than 1k disregard them also. Did UConn sell out their games in the UConn tournament? If not, disregard them. USF, ECU, and UCF fans aren’t going to pack any houses.

Solution: rotate between Wichita and Cincinnati (and possibly Hartford)

(03-17-2019 04:51 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:47 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:44 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:41 PM)shockerfan1313 Wrote:  How to increase attendance? Have fans that give a damn!

Boom! Fixed! Lol

I give a dam. But unfortunately, most middle class give a dam people can’t afford the huge travel expense. Just a fact.

But they can't afford a day off of work to attend a game in the SAME city and SAME court their home team plays on?

It’s hard for me to put my finger on why Memphis fans didn’t show up as expected. It was disappointing. In the past we have sold it out during tournaments. The Memphis fan base is hard to figure out. I’m not throwing dirt at any fan base. Y’all are doing that. Not me. I’m just presenting an idea that would help attendance all around.

I'll speak for me and maybe other fans that it's not affordable. $45-$60 tickets X 4 (Family of 4). I attended one game but can't spend $600-$800 to take my family to 3 tournament games.

(03-17-2019 06:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  We need to stop making this a location problem and acknowledge that it’s a fanbase problem.

Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, and probably Memphis (just guessing) have a worse traveling fanbase than Northern Iowa. Which makes Memphis and Fort Worth decent locations but they won’t have a lot of fans. Any location involving them is not going to result in a packed house. How many Temple fans went to the UConn tournament? If it was less than 1k disregard them also. Did UConn sell out their games in the UConn tournament? If not, disregard them. USF, ECU, and UCF fans aren’t going to pack any houses.

Solution: rotate between Wichita and Cincinnati (and possibly Hartford)

We outgrew you in St louis which is the last time a tournament was close enough for us to travel to.

Houston is just growing their program. Cincy has never bid on the tournament. UConn did fine for their games, the rest sucked. Huge alumni presence, my other reasons I have put up 10x.

(03-17-2019 06:11 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 06:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  We need to stop making this a location problem and acknowledge that it’s a fanbase problem.

Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, and probably Memphis (just guessing) have a worse traveling fanbase than Northern Iowa. Which makes Memphis and Fort Worth decent locations but they won’t have a lot of fans. Any location involving them is not going to result in a packed house. How many Temple fans went to the UConn tournament? If it was less than 1k disregard them also. Did UConn sell out their games in the UConn tournament? If not, disregard them. USF, ECU, and UCF fans aren’t going to pack any houses.

Solution: rotate between Wichita and Cincinnati (and possibly Hartford)

We outgrew you in St louis which is the last time a tournament was close enough for us to travel to.

Houston is just growing their program. Cincy has never bid on the tournament. UConn did fine for their games, the rest sucked. Huge alumni presence, my other reasons I have put up 10x.

Memphis is closer

(03-17-2019 06:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  We need to stop making this a location problem and acknowledge that it’s a fanbase problem.

Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, and probably Memphis (just guessing) have a worse traveling fanbase than Northern Iowa. Which makes Memphis and Fort Worth decent locations but they won’t have a lot of fans. Any location involving them is not going to result in a packed house. How many Temple fans went to the UConn tournament? If it was less than 1k disregard them also. Did UConn sell out their games in the UConn tournament? If not, disregard them. USF, ECU, and UCF fans aren’t going to pack any houses.

Solution: rotate between Wichita and Cincinnati (and possibly Hartford)

People act like these tickets are all available to buy on the market. Thats not how this works. Memphis and UConn fans know this first hand.

(03-17-2019 06:17 PM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 06:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  We need to stop making this a location problem and acknowledge that it’s a fanbase problem.

Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, and probably Memphis (just guessing) have a worse traveling fanbase than Northern Iowa. Which makes Memphis and Fort Worth decent locations but they won’t have a lot of fans. Any location involving them is not going to result in a packed house. How many Temple fans went to the UConn tournament? If it was less than 1k disregard them also. Did UConn sell out their games in the UConn tournament? If not, disregard them. USF, ECU, and UCF fans aren’t going to pack any houses.

Solution: rotate between Wichita and Cincinnati (and possibly Hartford)

People act like these tickets are all available to buy on the market. Thats not how this works. Memphis and UConn fans know this first hand.

I could have bought tickets for pretty cheap any of the days I wanted on the day of the game.

Ticket availability is not an issue

I went to all games but todays ... And the most glaring thing I saw was ZERO UCF FANS. NONE !!! They're a freaking tournament team and nobody goes to their own tourney. There weren't any USF fans either, Tulane or ECU. But UCF ... shame on them. Temple was there, UConn too.
Wichita State was the largest OOT contingent followed by Cincinnati and Houston. Tulsa and SMU maybe 50 each.
But UCF ... NADA !!!
I really don't think there's an attendance problem considering our conference footprint.
But UCF ..... after they're season And I'm sure their excuse is having to play Memphis on their home court. But ZERO fans !!! Jesus !!

(03-17-2019 04:49 PM)shockerfan1313 Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:47 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:45 PM)shockerfan1313 Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:44 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:41 PM)shockerfan1313 Wrote:  How to increase attendance? Have fans that give a damn!

Boom! Fixed! Lol

I give a dam. But unfortunately, most middle class give a dam people can’t afford the huge travel expense. Just a fact.

I guess there are a LOT of independently wealthy Wichita State fans. Doesnt seem to hurt them. They travelled just as well to Orlando.

I dont buy the whole "cost" thing. Sure it affects some. But surely not to the extent it is currently.

Where were all these fans this past week?

Pretty sure Wichita State outnumbered everyone but Memphis. And Cincy may have been close?

So yeah. Wichita State fans arent the problem

They did but it wasn’t anything crazy. Especially since the other fan bases didn’t bring many or none at all. Cincy probably had the third most.


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(03-17-2019 06:44 PM)steves Wrote:  I went to all games but todays ... And the most glaring thing I saw was ZERO UCF FANS. NONE !!! They're a freaking tournament team and nobody goes to their own tourney. There weren't any USF fans either, Tulane or ECU. But UCF ... shame on them. Temple was there, UConn too.
Wichita State was the largest OOT contingent followed by Cincinnati and Houston. Tulsa and SMU maybe 50 each.
But UCF ... NADA !!!
I really don't think there's an attendance problem considering our conference footprint.
But UCF ..... after they're season And I'm sure their excuse is having to play Memphis on their home court. But ZERO fans !!! Jesus !!

We felt dead walking. A better league, super close venue, and alumni will boost us to 500 no matter how bad we are, probably 2-3k if we are decent, 5k if we're good.

(03-17-2019 04:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  1. Start the tournament on Monday.
2. All night games.
3. Play on the higher seeds home court in all rounds.
4. Play the games on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.
5. Problem solved, all games will be heavily attended.
6. Split all proceeds evenly amongst all of the schools.

Other than short notice venue availability issues, this has great potential if attendance is the primary target issue. This approach will result in the overall highest cumulative attendance. But I would play the finals at a preplanned/selected neutral site that would not result in a home game for anyone. Good idea!

(03-17-2019 06:03 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  If you want better attendance just hold the tournament in Wichita. I can guarantee you that the Wichita fans would show up for the non-Wichita games. I will say that I was surprised that more Memphis fans didn't go to the non-Memphis games. I do think that the attendance will be good next year in Ft. Worth. I think a lot of Shocker fans will be there and we will go to more than just the Shocker games. It would be better if it were in OKC, but Ft. Worth should still be pretty good.

Were you there or just judging from TV ? I thought our turnout was good in non Memphis games. I think a tournament should be held in Wichita. To me, if you're fan base supports your team in other cities, you earned it.

With SMU being the host team next (2-3 ??) years ... Well, let's see how many of their fans go to non SMU games.

How to fix the conference tourney attendance issue:

Move the schools closer together.

(03-17-2019 07:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  1. Start the tournament on Monday.
2. All night games.
3. Play on the higher seeds home court in all rounds.
4. Play the games on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.
5. Problem solved, all games will be heavily attended.
6. Split all proceeds evenly amongst all of the schools.

Other than short notice venue availability issues, this has great potential if attendance is the primary target issue. This approach will result in the overall highest cumulative attendance. But I would play the finals at a preplanned/selected neutral site that would not result in a home game for anyone. Good idea!

Lol memphis.


Nobody can do it better than us we're the bestest. We have the best basketball fans, so we will just argue for everyone gets a home game. Then we can still be bestest.

Lame.

Go back to cusa and play on two courts at once but count both games as one attendance. This is a big boy league, stay at home, the rest of us are going neutral site and showing out.

(03-17-2019 07:05 PM)steves Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 06:03 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  If you want better attendance just hold the tournament in Wichita. I can guarantee you that the Wichita fans would show up for the non-Wichita games. I will say that I was surprised that more Memphis fans didn't go to the non-Memphis games. I do think that the attendance will be good next year in Ft. Worth. I think a lot of Shocker fans will be there and we will go to more than just the Shocker games. It would be better if it were in OKC, but Ft. Worth should still be pretty good.

Were you there or just judging from TV ? I thought our turnout was good in non Memphis games. I think a tournament should be held in Wichita. To me, if you're fan base supports your team in other cities, you earned it.

With SMU being the host team next (2-3 ??) years ... Well, let's see how many of their fans go to non SMU games.

More interesting, let's see how many ponies show up for the SMU games.

(03-17-2019 07:07 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 07:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  1. Start the tournament on Monday.
2. All night games.
3. Play on the higher seeds home court in all rounds.
4. Play the games on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.
5. Problem solved, all games will be heavily attended.
6. Split all proceeds evenly amongst all of the schools.

Other than short notice venue availability issues, this has great potential if attendance is the primary target issue. This approach will result in the overall highest cumulative attendance. But I would play the finals at a preplanned/selected neutral site that would not result in a home game for anyone. Good idea!

Lol memphis.


Nobody can do it better than us we're the bestest. We have the best basketball fans, so we will just argue for everyone gets a home game. Then we can still be bestest.

Lame.

Go back to cusa and play on two courts at once but count both games as one attendance. This is a big boy league, stay at home, the rest of us are going neutral site and showing out.

Funny post.

A Tulsa fan talking about attendance. The school who gets 300 people to basketball game and 2500 to football talking about attendance

I don't believe a solution exist that will solve every problem. I think future conference success will boost attendance no matter the location. No doubt the tournament should be played on a neutral court period, and I would prefer it move around every year. This is really not a big deal. Most of the bitchin is by some shocker fans and one tulsa fan. I guess some are still in the mindset that winning the conf tournament is the only guarantee to the dance. Once the NCAA starts and we get into the sweet sixteen, nobody gives 2 ***** about a conf tournament.

(03-17-2019 07:07 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 07:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  1. Start the tournament on Monday.
2. All night games.
3. Play on the higher seeds home court in all rounds.
4. Play the games on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.
5. Problem solved, all games will be heavily attended.
6. Split all proceeds evenly amongst all of the schools.

Other than short notice venue availability issues, this has great potential if attendance is the primary target issue. This approach will result in the overall highest cumulative attendance. But I would play the finals at a preplanned/selected neutral site that would not result in a home game for anyone. Good idea!

Lol memphis.


Nobody can do it better than us we're the bestest. We have the best basketball fans, so we will just argue for everyone gets a home game. Then we can still be bestest.

Lame.

Go back to cusa and play on two courts at once but count both games as one attendance. This is a big boy league, stay at home, the rest of us are going neutral site and showing out.

I saw maybe 20 Tulsa fans ... More than UCF ... but considering you are an easy 6 hour drive from Memphis ... Sheshup !!

(03-17-2019 07:29 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 07:07 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 07:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  1. Start the tournament on Monday.
2. All night games.
3. Play on the higher seeds home court in all rounds.
4. Play the games on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.
5. Problem solved, all games will be heavily attended.
6. Split all proceeds evenly amongst all of the schools.

Other than short notice venue availability issues, this has great potential if attendance is the primary target issue. This approach will result in the overall highest cumulative attendance. But I would play the finals at a preplanned/selected neutral site that would not result in a home game for anyone. Good idea!

Lol memphis.


Nobody can do it better than us we're the bestest. We have the best basketball fans, so we will just argue for everyone gets a home game. Then we can still be bestest.

Lame.

Go back to cusa and play on two courts at once but count both games as one attendance. This is a big boy league, stay at home, the rest of us are going neutral site and showing out.

Funny post.

A Tulsa fan talking about attendance. The school who gets 300 people to basketball game and 2500 to football talking about attendance

Yep, I remember the last time Tulsa hosted CUSA tourney, we had more attending than Tulsa. Big talk from the gazebo.

(03-17-2019 07:34 PM)steves Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 07:07 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 07:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(03-17-2019 04:23 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  1. Start the tournament on Monday.
2. All night games.
3. Play on the higher seeds home court in all rounds.
4. Play the games on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.
5. Problem solved, all games will be heavily attended.
6. Split all proceeds evenly amongst all of the schools.

Other than short notice venue availability issues, this has great potential if attendance is the primary target issue. This approach will result in the overall highest cumulative attendance. But I would play the finals at a preplanned/selected neutral site that would not result in a home game for anyone. Good idea!

Lol memphis.


Nobody can do it better than us we're the bestest. We have the best basketball fans, so we will just argue for everyone gets a home game. Then we can still be bestest.

Lame.

Go back to cusa and play on two courts at once but count both games as one attendance. This is a big boy league, stay at home, the rest of us are going neutral site and showing out.

I saw maybe 20 Tulsa fans ... More than UCF ... but considering you are an easy 6 hour drive from Memphis ... Sheshup !!

So much butt hurt on this thread.

You all talked **** on everybody. Memphis didn't turn out even for Memphis games in Memphis and you want to call out traveling fans none of which are closer than a 6 hour drive and almost everyone of which is greater than eight hours away....

We'll compare attendance to the last couple years but I doubt anything but the Memphis games are better and not much better even for those.

Next year will be better, just to not have to listen to lane excuses from embarrassed Memphis fans will make it better.