I find it beyond interesting (nor do I understand why) that this dumb b*tch was living in the US. The odds of being caught had to be significantly higher on US soil than in any other country. Why take that risk? That is like Whitey Bulger hiding in plain sight in Cali... Are the benefits of living in the US that much better that she had to be in our country over any other?

She had enough money to basically go buy an island and disappear forever.

It's like some kind of game for these people?


In this case, I think there is enough out there to claim (not allegedly) that she is a huge POS and deserves the most uncomfortable existence possible in the time that she has left to spend on this earth....

My guess is that she will not spill everything.... I am also willing to bet that she and Epstein had a plan for the exact event and has a very specific list of those she will bury and those she will not.

(07-06-2020 07:23 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I find it beyond interesting (nor do I understand why) that this dumb b*tch was living in the US. The odds of being caught had to be significantly higher on US soil than in any other country. Why take that risk? That is like Whitey Bulger hiding in plain sight in Cali... Are the benefits of living in the US that much better that she had to be in our country over any other?

She had enough money to basically go buy an island and disappear forever.

It's like some kind of game for these people?


In this case, I think there is enough out there to claim (not allegedly) that she is a huge POS and deserves the most uncomfortable existence possible in the time that she has left to spend on this earth....

My guess is that she will not spill everything.... I am also willing to bet that she and Epstein had a plan for the exact event and has a very specific list of those she will bury and those she will not.

I would imagine that she was being followed for awhile, any attempt to leave would have resulted in an arrest before she could go.

(07-02-2020 09:10 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 09:04 AM)banker Wrote:  Ghislaine didn't kill herself.

Just thought I would get the jump on that.

I feel like it will be a little too obvious if they have her "hang herself" with all the cameras off and the guards sleeping again. I'm thinking this time they say she got Rona!

Good call!

(07-06-2020 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:23 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I find it beyond interesting (nor do I understand why) that this dumb b*tch was living in the US. The odds of being caught had to be significantly higher on US soil than in any other country. Why take that risk? That is like Whitey Bulger hiding in plain sight in Cali... Are the benefits of living in the US that much better that she had to be in our country over any other?

She had enough money to basically go buy an island and disappear forever.

It's like some kind of game for these people?


In this case, I think there is enough out there to claim (not allegedly) that she is a huge POS and deserves the most uncomfortable existence possible in the time that she has left to spend on this earth....

My guess is that she will not spill everything.... I am also willing to bet that she and Epstein had a plan for the exact event and has a very specific list of those she will bury and those she will not.

I would imagine that she was being followed for awhile, any attempt to leave would have resulted in an arrest before she could go.

I cannot recall exactly where I saw this, but i thought she bought that residence after the schitt hit the fan with Epstein. She should have been on the first one way ticket out of town the day they came to pick him up.

(07-06-2020 09:35 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 07:23 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I find it beyond interesting (nor do I understand why) that this dumb b*tch was living in the US. The odds of being caught had to be significantly higher on US soil than in any other country. Why take that risk? That is like Whitey Bulger hiding in plain sight in Cali... Are the benefits of living in the US that much better that she had to be in our country over any other?

She had enough money to basically go buy an island and disappear forever.

It's like some kind of game for these people?


In this case, I think there is enough out there to claim (not allegedly) that she is a huge POS and deserves the most uncomfortable existence possible in the time that she has left to spend on this earth....

My guess is that she will not spill everything.... I am also willing to bet that she and Epstein had a plan for the exact event and has a very specific list of those she will bury and those she will not.

I would imagine that she was being followed for awhile, any attempt to leave would have resulted in an arrest before she could go.

I cannot recall exactly where I saw this, but i thought she bought that residence after the schitt hit the fan with Epstein. She should have been on the first one way ticket out of town the day they came to pick him up.

Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

C'mon man.... You even said yourself she has "Friends" or enemies on both sides.... You are just baiting with that Trump and Barr comment....

I think most people here are not political on this one. If Trump is guilty with this he is gone, same goes for Clinton - or ANYONE else who was involved with this.

(07-06-2020 10:34 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

C'mon man.... You even said yourself she has "Friends" or enemies on both sides.... You are just baiting with that Trump and Barr comment....

I think most people here are not political on this one. If Trump is guilty with this he is gone, same goes for Clinton - or ANYONE else who was involved with this.

Dude, the means I'm being sarcastic.

(07-06-2020 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 10:34 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

C'mon man.... You even said yourself she has "Friends" or enemies on both sides.... You are just baiting with that Trump and Barr comment....

I think most people here are not political on this one. If Trump is guilty with this he is gone, same goes for Clinton - or ANYONE else who was involved with this.

Dude, the means I'm being sarcastic.

No it does not and you know it.... There are too many triggered righties here to take it that way.

(07-06-2020 10:52 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 10:34 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

C'mon man.... You even said yourself she has "Friends" or enemies on both sides.... You are just baiting with that Trump and Barr comment....

I think most people here are not political on this one. If Trump is guilty with this he is gone, same goes for Clinton - or ANYONE else who was involved with this.

Dude, the means I'm being sarcastic.

No it does not and you know it.... There are too many triggered righties here to take it that way.

So, I don't give a flying **** how they take it.

It's lunchtime on a Monday, is she still breathing?

(07-06-2020 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, I don't give a flying **** how they take it.

clearly



So why do you post here again?

(07-06-2020 11:21 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, I don't give a flying **** how they take it.

clearly



So why do you post here again?

Focusing on work all day makes ones brain mush.

I seriously doubt you post here with the intent that you're actually going to change anyone.

(07-06-2020 11:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 11:21 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, I don't give a flying **** how they take it.

clearly



So why do you post here again?

Focusing on work all day makes ones brain mush.

I seriously doubt you post here with the intent that you're actually going to change anyone.

Posts like yours (including the one I'm responding to) aren't going to instantaneously change anyone's opinion. On that we can agree.

But I do think an intelligent, factual and logical post can have an influence on other opinions. I know because it's happened to me. You might want to consider giving this style a try.

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

I realize that was not a totally serious comment, but here’s a serious question: Why would they protect Maxwell but not Epstein?

(07-06-2020 12:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

I realize that was not a totally serious comment, but here’s a serious question: Why would they protect Maxwell but not Epstein?

The people "protecting" him were eve more corrupt....

They have taken steps this time for different and hopefully less corrupt protection.

Only time will tell if she can still get suicided under this new kind of "protection".


This whole thing a a lose, lose, lose in every direction.

- If she talks nobody will believe she told the whole story
- If she dies mysteriously or otherwise nobody will ever know who is responsible
- If she doesn't talk and just disappears into the system someone will have made that happen and nobody will know who for sure

She has nothing to lose at this point - she is dead man walking regardless - Burn them all down if they deserve to be burned!

(07-06-2020 12:12 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 11:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 11:21 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, I don't give a flying **** how they take it.

clearly



So why do you post here again?

Focusing on work all day makes ones brain mush.

I seriously doubt you post here with the intent that you're actually going to change anyone.

Posts like yours (including the one I'm responding to) aren't going to instantaneously change anyone's opinion. On that we can agree.

But I do think an intelligent, factual and logical post can have an influence on other opinions. I know because it's happened to me. You might want to consider giving this style a try.

I have. I'm far from new here. There's only a few that have been here consistently posting as long as me.

(07-06-2020 12:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

I realize that was not a totally serious comment, but here’s a serious question: Why would they protect Maxwell but not Epstein?

I still maintain they DID protect him. He's not dead. He is in protective custody somewhere.

The Claw Theory continues like this:

They have had a few months for Epstein to talk and to decide how they will proceed. That's done now, but he's dead so he can't testify.

In order to pursue the people Epstein has incriminated, they need Maxwell to give the statements. That's why she is being picked up now. They had to have time to debrief Epstein. Now her role will be to deliver the testimony needed.

They must think they can let her go or go very easy on her where with Epstein that was not an option.

(07-06-2020 12:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

I realize that was not a totally serious comment, but here’s a serious question: Why would they protect Maxwell but not Epstein?

You're right. I was not serious.

That being said, many are just assuming powerful people like Clinton or trump were engaging in unlawful activity with minors. I just think that's a bridge way too far for those types. IMO they aren't that stupid to allow someone they can't control to gain access to something that damaging.

(07-06-2020 01:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 12:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Barr and trump will likely have her back...she has nothing to worry about.

I realize that was not a totally serious comment, but here’s a serious question: Why would they protect Maxwell but not Epstein?

You're right. I was not serious.

That being said, many are just assuming powerful people like Clinton or trump were engaging in unlawful activity with minors. I just think that's a bridge way too far for those types. IMO they aren't that stupid to allow someone they can't control to gain access to something that damaging.

Tom, in all earnestness, there has been so much innuendo planting by both parties and all of the media that the only way forward is for her to spill her guts and make all accusations formal. From there people can prove or disprove the allegations. For the innocent it clears the air and removes some of the suspicion. For the guilty it's just rewards. But to bury it, or her, only sews doubt in the credibility of all of our institutions of power punishing the innocent in public opinion along with the guilty.

(07-06-2020 01:11 PM)Claw Wrote:  I still maintain they DID protect him. He's not dead. He is in protective custody somewhere.

The Claw Theory continues like this:

They have had a few months for Epstein to talk and to decide how they will proceed. That's done now, but he's dead so he can't testify.

In order to pursue the people Epstein has incriminated, they need Maxwell to give the statements. That's why she is being picked up now. They had to have time to debrief Epstein. Now her role will be to deliver the testimony needed.

They must think they can let her go or go very easy on her where with Epstein that was not an option.

WOW - holy conspiracy batman!