(02-12-2022 01:08 AM)Retroview1955 Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 11:26 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 11:17 PM)parialex Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 11:05 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  Are the SB3 the first CUSA teams to leave early?

I feel like I'm in a car pool. I tell my rider that I'm not going in on Friday, and they're standing on the corner Friday morning...waiting for me to show up.

I'm pretty sure they're the first ones to leave with less than a year's notice. FAU and Middle Tennessee left *for* Conference USA with short notice, but were able to negotiate their way out.

As best I can figure, cases of teams leaving conferences with less than a year's notice are:
Texas A&M and Missouri to SEC (successfully negotiated)
West Virginia to the Big 12 (negotiated after lawsuits)
TCU? (Odd case)
FAU and MTSU to C*USA (successfully negotiated)

Guess the SB3 should of paid the fees, for MTSU and WKU to join the MAC and put the CUSA in the ground. Would of been cheaper.

It was reported as there not being any no financial penalty in by-laws. Why would it got to court if that part wasn't in the contract? Am I missing something?

What?

(02-11-2022 11:17 PM)parialex Wrote:  As best I can figure, cases of teams leaving conferences with less than a year's notice are:
Texas A&M and Missouri to SEC (successfully negotiated)
West Virginia to the Big 12 (negotiated after lawsuits)
TCU? (Odd case)
FAU and MTSU to C*USA (successfully negotiated)

In the one case above that ended up in court, WVU a) still left and b) paid $20 million to a conference that was bringing in $9 million per school in media income (as reported here).

The equivalent amount for a CUSA institution, based on $400k/yr in media income, would be under $900k. USM, MU, & ODU would each write that check and sign it with hearts dotting the i’s.

Are there any documents which have been released stating the SB3 wanted to leave early? Is this all just a he said/she said between a much of incompetent folks? Someone needs to do a FOIA request to all of the schools.

Being someone whos school will have little effect, I would fire all of the ones involved. Becoming easier to understand why the commissioner, if so bad, hasnt been fired.

(02-12-2022 07:54 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  MT and FAU paid 1 million each to leave the Sun Belt early. I suspect the schools leaving will have to do something similar when it's all said and done.

If it's less than the total brought in by the Sun Belt distributions then it still makes us money. Also, C-USA could have gotten that just by . . . you know . . . negotiating. This is Judy trying to show she's a strong leader. In the end, the SB3 probably pay the same amount either way, but in this version most of the money go to pay C-USA lawyers, rather than going to the league office or schools staying.

(02-12-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Are there any documents which have been released stating the SB3 wanted to leave early? Is this all just a he said/she said between a much of incompetent folks? Someone needs to do a FOIA request to all of the schools.

Being someone whos school will have little effect, I would fire all of the ones involved. Becoming easier to understand why the commissioner, if so bad, hasnt been fired.

This is funny.

You haven’t read this thread or board.

All schools have released statements saying 6-30-2022 is their last day in conference.

CUSA5 are releasing a schedule with the SBC3 still on it. And have released counter statements saying you can’t leave.

You’re joining this conference. It will affect your school.

(02-12-2022 09:15 AM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Are there any documents which have been released stating the SB3 wanted to leave early? Is this all just a he said/she said between a much of incompetent folks? Someone needs to do a FOIA request to all of the schools.

Being someone whos school will have little effect, I would fire all of the ones involved. Becoming easier to understand why the commissioner, if so bad, hasnt been fired.

This is funny.

You haven’t read this thread or board.

All schools have released statements saying 6-30-2022 is their last day in conference.

CUSA5 are releasing a schedule with the SBC3 still on it. And have released counter statements saying you can’t leave.

You’re joining this conference. It will affect your school.

Statement is December for the slow

The withheld distribution was peanuts anyway. Now it will be pennies on the peanut bc no way any TV revenue or bowl tie ins remain the same over the next two years. I would be surprised if CUSA exists two years from now.

(02-12-2022 09:22 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 09:15 AM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Are there any documents which have been released stating the SB3 wanted to leave early? Is this all just a he said/she said between a much of incompetent folks? Someone needs to do a FOIA request to all of the schools.

Being someone whos school will have little effect, I would fire all of the ones involved. Becoming easier to understand why the commissioner, if so bad, hasnt been fired.

This is funny.

You haven’t read this thread or board.

All schools have released statements saying 6-30-2022 is their last day in conference.

CUSA5 are releasing a schedule with the SBC3 still on it. And have released counter statements saying you can’t leave.

You’re joining this conference. It will affect your school.

Statement is December for the slow

No, because that's not how you negotiate in good faith. You keep it private until it's obvious the other party isn't going to negotiate, then you go public.

(02-12-2022 09:22 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 09:15 AM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Are there any documents which have been released stating the SB3 wanted to leave early? Is this all just a he said/she said between a much of incompetent folks? Someone needs to do a FOIA request to all of the schools.

Being someone whos school will have little effect, I would fire all of the ones involved. Becoming easier to understand why the commissioner, if so bad, hasnt been fired.

This is funny.

You haven’t read this thread or board.

All schools have released statements saying 6-30-2022 is their last day in conference.

CUSA5 are releasing a schedule with the SBC3 still on it. And have released counter statements saying you can’t leave.

You’re joining this conference. It will affect your school.

Statement is December for the slow

Please read this press release from yesterday
https://southernmiss.com/news/2022/2/11/...nment.aspx
press release from 2-11-2022

(02-11-2022 06:37 PM)TTT Wrote:  You just can't make this up. Of course those in the know have known this since December.

"Conference USA statement on early departures of Marshall, ODU & USM. By-laws require 14 months notice to leave, but there is no financial penalty in by-laws for not providing required notice"

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...76230?s=21

A court will decide...C-USA experts will calculate the effect of their early departure, and the little sisters will have their experts to counter and then some judge will decide. I guarantee that the little sisters break before C-USA. But believe what you want.

(02-12-2022 07:54 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  MT and FAU paid 1 million each to leave the Sun Belt early. I suspect the schools leaving will have to do something similar when it's all said and done.

The schools will gladly pay that and they would have already cut the check. But that is just my opinion.

(02-12-2022 09:40 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 06:37 PM)TTT Wrote:  You just can't make this up. Of course those in the know have known this since December.

"Conference USA statement on early departures of Marshall, ODU & USM. By-laws require 14 months notice to leave, but there is no financial penalty in by-laws for not providing required notice"

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...76230?s=21

A court will decide...C-USA experts will calculate the effect of their early departure, and the little sisters will have their experts to counter and then some judge will decide. I guarantee that the little sisters break before C-USA. But believe what you want.

What do you think is a fair exit early fee?

(02-11-2022 07:58 PM)TTT Wrote:  the amount of travel costs we'll save is considerable. Can't remember the #'s off the top of my head but the University put out a statement back in the Fall when we first announced, and detailed a lot of the travel cost savings and it was SUBSTANTIAL.

Link?

Not doubting you — that sounds exactly right. Just curious to see the exact #s

(02-12-2022 10:03 AM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 09:40 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 06:37 PM)TTT Wrote:  You just can't make this up. Of course those in the know have known this since December.

"Conference USA statement on early departures of Marshall, ODU & USM. By-laws require 14 months notice to leave, but there is no financial penalty in by-laws for not providing required notice"

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...76230?s=21

A court will decide...C-USA experts will calculate the effect of their early departure, and the little sisters will have their experts to counter and then some judge will decide. I guarantee that the little sisters break before C-USA. But believe what you want.

What do you think is a fair exit early fee?

My WAG is somewhere between 1-2 million. The only recent early leave I can think of was UConn and they paid an extra 7 million on top of the 10 million exit fee just to leave early.

(02-12-2022 11:29 AM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 10:03 AM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  What do you think is a fair exit early fee?

My WAG is somewhere between 1-2 million. The only recent early leave I can think of was UConn and they paid an extra 7 million on top of the 10 million exit fee just to leave early.

I think between 1m and 2m is about right, although I’ll say 1.0-1.5 is a lot more likely than 1.5-2.0.

UConn, obviously, is a much bigger brand than Marshall/ODU/USM.

(02-12-2022 11:37 AM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:29 AM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 10:03 AM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  What do you think is a fair exit early fee?

My WAG is somewhere between 1-2 million. The only recent early leave I can think of was UConn and they paid an extra 7 million on top of the 10 million exit fee just to leave early.

I think between 1m and 2m is about right, although I’ll say 1.0-1.5 is a lot more likely than 1.5-2.0.

UConn, obviously, is a much bigger brand than Marshall/ODU/USM.

Seems about right and fair. Will be hard to put much more value on any of the brands leaving.

(02-12-2022 11:40 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:37 AM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 11:29 AM)UABGrad Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 10:03 AM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  What do you think is a fair exit early fee?

My WAG is somewhere between 1-2 million. The only recent early leave I can think of was UConn and they paid an extra 7 million on top of the 10 million exit fee just to leave early.

I think between 1m and 2m is about right, although I’ll say 1.0-1.5 is a lot more likely than 1.5-2.0.

UConn, obviously, is a much bigger brand than Marshall/ODU/USM.

Seems about right and fair. Will be hard to put much more value on any of the brands leaving.

It’s not figured by that. It’s figured by the conference and it’s media deals. Which aren’t that great.

They will come to a money agreement but there is no way they are here another year. But it won’t be free. It’s still a contract after all. The courts are on her side but I think a settlement will be made and the schools will be released

(02-12-2022 02:04 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  They will come to a money agreement but there is no way they are here another year. But it won’t be free. It’s still a contract after all. The courts are on her side but I think a settlement will be made and the schools will be released

I disagree. When the wording is vague and doesn’t give a figure, courts won’t be on her side especially if the 3 have been making offers and there’s been radio silence as stated in one of the statements. A judge will look at that and question why the conference sat on their hands and didn’t communicate.

Before this goes before a judge, the AAC 6 will be part of the AAC. It won’t happen quick.

(02-12-2022 02:04 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  They will come to a money agreement but there is no way they are here another year.

Agreed. So what’s the point of all this drama instead everybody just sitting down & ironing out an agreement before now?