(05-31-2022 08:25 AM)JackedUp Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 11:51 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(05-30-2022 04:07 PM)Nickleback rules Wrote:  

(05-26-2022 09:29 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  JSU will be on national tv 2:30 cdt vs SFA on ESPN. Watered down maybe but No ND to tote our note just some FCS teams playing.

Really? Why?

Because we are JSU, or maybe Marshall wasnt available?

Marshall fans are really a clueless bunch, Look at that post by their fan about Boise. Just plain ignorant about college football unless it’s Marshall.

Southern Miss I can’t help either they’re just trashy rednecks

That's cute.. You're trying to troll on a fanbase that didn't question the topic you're quoting.. I get it. We're what you want to be.

Chin up cupcake.

(05-26-2022 08:42 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(05-23-2022 02:32 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Who was Marshall playing? Marshall is no Boise, UCF or Cincinnati. I see a tons of low viewed Marshall games against other G5 on Sports Media Watch.

Let’s see proof of this Media giant Marshall. No single shred of evidence that ESPN increase the Sunbelt contract by 400%. It’s just total BS.

I could say the CUSA is 5million and that has just as much credibility as the Sunbelt morons saying the ESPN contract is now 2 million.

Marshall is no UCF, Cincinnati or Boise. Marshall is just another MAC retread with a last place Baseball program that move down to the Sunbelt.

I can't believe I'm actually responding to Jax st.

You are giving Boise WAY too much credit. Their success stems from one game against Oklahoma, and a goofy-ass statue of liberty play
the Sooners could not believe they actually would run. They get credit for being the first Non-BCS / G5 to be invited to the now NY6.

Since they have been anointed golden child if warranted or not.

UCF and Cincy, I will give credit for going through the school of hard knocks in order to get their accolades.

MU is no Giant in media while in CUSA. The same media giant Facebook that you now own.

This is objectively the dumbest post on this whole forum in the past year.

2008
BSU – 12-1 Season, Oregon Win
Marshall – 4-8 Season, Wisconsin Stomping

2009
BSU – 14-0 Season, Oregon Win, TCU Fiesta Bowl Win
Marshall – 7-6 Season, Virginia Tech Stomping

2010
BSU – 12-1 Season, Oregon State Win, Virginia Tech Win, Utah Win
Marshall – 5-7 Season, Ohio State Stomping

2011
BSU – 12-1 Season, Georgia Win, TCU Win, Arizona State Win
Marshall – 7-6 Season, West Virginia and Virginia Tech Stomping, Barely beat Louisville

2012
BSU – 11-2 Season, 17-13 Michigan State Loss, BYU and Washington Wins
Marshall – 5-7 Season, West Virginia and Purdue Stomping

2013
BSU – 8-5 Season, Washington, BYU, and Oregon State losses
Marshall – 10-4 Season, Virginia Tech loss, Maryland win

2014
BSU – 12-2 Season, 17-13 Ole Miss Loss, BYU and Arizona Wins
Marshall – 13-1 Season, No BCS opponents


2015
BSU – 9-4 Season, 17-13 BYU Loss, Virginia and Washington Wins
Marshall – 10-3 Season, UConn and Purdue Win

2016
BSU – 10-3 Season, 17-13 Baylor Loss, Oregon State and Washington State Wins
Marshall – 3-9 Season, Louisville and Pitt Stomping

2017
BSU – 11-3 Season, 17-13 Washington State and Virginia Loss, BYU and Oregon Win
Marshall – 8-5 Season, NC State and UTSA Stomping

2018
BSU – 10-3 Season, 17-13 Oklahoma State Loss, BYU and Washington Wins
Marshall – 9-4 Season, NC State and Virginia Tech Stomping

2019
BSU – 12-2 Season, 17-13 Florida State and Marshall wins, Washington Loss
Marshall – 8-5 Season

2020
BSU – 5-2 Season, 17-13 Michigan State Loss, BYU and Washington Wins
Marshall – 7-3 Season, West Virginia and Purdue Stomping

2021
BSU – 7-5 Season, 17-13 Oklahoma State Loss
Marshall – 7-6 Season

Boise State has been the gold standard for G5 schools for nearly 2 decades. Marshall is what's the word I'm looking for...awful.

(06-01-2022 04:13 PM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(05-26-2022 08:42 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(05-23-2022 02:32 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Who was Marshall playing? Marshall is no Boise, UCF or Cincinnati. I see a tons of low viewed Marshall games against other G5 on Sports Media Watch.

Let’s see proof of this Media giant Marshall. No single shred of evidence that ESPN increase the Sunbelt contract by 400%. It’s just total BS.

I could say the CUSA is 5million and that has just as much credibility as the Sunbelt morons saying the ESPN contract is now 2 million.

Marshall is no UCF, Cincinnati or Boise. Marshall is just another MAC retread with a last place Baseball program that move down to the Sunbelt.

I can't believe I'm actually responding to Jax st.

You are giving Boise WAY too much credit. Their success stems from one game against Oklahoma, and a goofy-ass statue of liberty play
the Sooners could not believe they actually would run. They get credit for being the first Non-BCS / G5 to be invited to the now NY6.

Since they have been anointed golden child if warranted or not.

UCF and Cincy, I will give credit for going through the school of hard knocks in order to get their accolades.

MU is no Giant in media while in CUSA. The same media giant Facebook that you now own.

This is objectively the dumbest post on this whole forum in the past year.

2008
BSU – 12-1 Season, Oregon Win
Marshall – 4-8 Season, Wisconsin Stomping

2009
BSU – 14-0 Season, Oregon Win, TCU Fiesta Bowl Win
Marshall – 7-6 Season, Virginia Tech Stomping

2010
BSU – 12-1 Season, Oregon State Win, Virginia Tech Win, Utah Win
Marshall – 5-7 Season, Ohio State Stomping

2011
BSU – 12-1 Season, Georgia Win, TCU Win, Arizona State Win
Marshall – 7-6 Season, West Virginia and Virginia Tech Stomping, Barely beat Louisville

2012
BSU – 11-2 Season, 17-13 Michigan State Loss, BYU and Washington Wins
Marshall – 5-7 Season, West Virginia and Purdue Stomping

2013
BSU – 8-5 Season, Washington, BYU, and Oregon State losses
Marshall – 10-4 Season, Virginia Tech loss, Maryland win

2014
BSU – 12-2 Season, 17-13 Ole Miss Loss, BYU and Arizona Wins
Marshall – 13-1 Season, No BCS opponents


2015
BSU – 9-4 Season, 17-13 BYU Loss, Virginia and Washington Wins
Marshall – 10-3 Season, UConn and Purdue Win

2016
BSU – 10-3 Season, 17-13 Baylor Loss, Oregon State and Washington State Wins
Marshall – 3-9 Season, Louisville and Pitt Stomping

2017
BSU – 11-3 Season, 17-13 Washington State and Virginia Loss, BYU and Oregon Win
Marshall – 8-5 Season, NC State and UTSA Stomping

2018
BSU – 10-3 Season, 17-13 Oklahoma State Loss, BYU and Washington Wins
Marshall – 9-4 Season, NC State and Virginia Tech Stomping

2019
BSU – 12-2 Season, 17-13 Florida State and Marshall wins, Washington Loss
Marshall – 8-5 Season

2020
BSU – 5-2 Season, 17-13 Michigan State Loss, BYU and Washington Wins
Marshall – 7-3 Season, West Virginia and Purdue Stomping

2021
BSU – 7-5 Season, 17-13 Oklahoma State Loss
Marshall – 7-6 Season

Boise State has been the gold standard for G5 schools for nearly 2 decades. Marshall is what's the word I'm looking for...awful.

YIKES

There are so many errors in that post, it’s not worth trying to address all of them. The point isn’t bad but the errors detract (ex. Ole Miss beat Boise, 35-13 in 2014. Marshall didn’t play WVU or Purdue in 2020.

I’ll do a collective here:

Boise was great for quite a while.
Marshall was just as good for a short time back in the late 90’s/early 00’s.

Marshall 1997: 10-3. Lost at WVU (led in 4th qtr.), lost to Ole Miss, 34-31. Heisman Trophy finalist.

Marshall 1998: 12-1. Defeated South Carolina and destroyed Louisville in bowl game.

Marshall 1999: 13-0, No. 10 final AP ranking. Defeated Clemson and decimated a ranked BYU team. Heisman Trophy finalist.

Marshall 2000: 8-5, lost close games to Michigan State and North Carolina, defeated Cincy in bowl game.

Marshall 2001: 11-2, blown out by Florida, came back from 38-8 halftime deficit to beat ECU in bowl game. Game at TCU canceled by 9/11 and never rescheduled.

Marshall 2002: 11-2, blown out by Virginia Tech. Destroyed Louisville in bowl game. Finished in Top 25. 6th place Heisman finisher.

Marshall 2003: 8-4, beat Big XII champion and No. 6 ranked Kansas State with both teams starting backup QB. Lost close game at Tennessee. QB injury held this team back.

Marshall 2004: 6-6, lost on 55-yard FG as time expired at Ohio State, lost 13-3 at Georgia. Blown out in bowl game by Cincinnati. Coach resigned following season.

After that was a stretch of poor seasons into 2011, which was just ok. 2013-2015 we’re ok. 2013 was very good in flashes. 2014 was great outside of one awful half. Marshall frankly failed to be anything close to what it was. I loved the late 90’s/early 00’s Herd teams but they’ve been a long time ago now. I hope to see them get back there in my lifetime.

I'm curious, how many BCS/Access Bowls has Marshall played in or won compared to Boise St?

clt says comparing marshal and boise is laughable.

(06-01-2022 10:19 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  Marshall 2001: 11-2, blown out by Florida, came back from 38-8 halftime deficit to beat ECU in bowl game. Game at TCU canceled by 9/11 and never rescheduled.

If you had a game cancelled, why did you still have 13 games?

When I saw that silly post calling into question Boise State's prowess, I laughed, at first, then the bad memories flooded back, and I felt ill. Tech had no luck with BSU. We beat them in 2001 in our first WAC encounter and then never again. The games out there were horrific, usually 3 TDs. In Ruston the games were competitive, we lost a couple of heartbreakers, but lose we did. It wasn't just us they were "leaving no doubt" with.

As I think about this, now, if I were to compose a list of G5 programs that have rivaled Boise State or accomplished some of the things they did Marshall would not be on it and in fact, wouldn't have even been considered.

(06-02-2022 07:47 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(06-01-2022 10:19 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  Marshall 2001: 11-2, blown out by Florida, came back from 38-8 halftime deficit to beat ECU in bowl game. Game at TCU canceled by 9/11 and never rescheduled.

If you had a game cancelled, why did you still have 13 games?

I was but a child at the time, but my glance at FBS records indicate that between Sept 8th and Sept 29th Marshall did not play anyone, then proceeded to play 11 straight. Only losses that season were the blowout to Florida in Wk1, and in the MAC Championship vs Toledo, so 11 regular season + MAC Championship + Bowl Game.

(06-01-2022 10:19 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  There are so many errors in that post, it’s not worth trying to address all of them. The point isn’t bad but the errors detract (ex. Ole Miss beat Boise, 35-13 in 2014. Marshall didn’t play WVU or Purdue in 2020.

I’ll do a collective here:

Boise was great for quite a while.
Marshall was just as good for a short time back in the late 90’s/early 00’s.

Marshall 1997: 10-3. Lost at WVU (led in 4th qtr.), lost to Ole Miss, 34-31. Heisman Trophy finalist.

Marshall 1998: 12-1. Defeated South Carolina and destroyed Louisville in bowl game.

Marshall 1999: 13-0, No. 10 final AP ranking. Defeated Clemson and decimated a ranked BYU team. Heisman Trophy finalist.

Marshall 2000: 8-5, lost close games to Michigan State and North Carolina, defeated Cincy in bowl game.

Marshall 2001: 11-2, blown out by Florida, came back from 38-8 halftime deficit to beat ECU in bowl game. Game at TCU canceled by 9/11 and never rescheduled.

Marshall 2002: 11-2, blown out by Virginia Tech. Destroyed Louisville in bowl game. Finished in Top 25. 6th place Heisman finisher.

Marshall 2003: 8-4, beat Big XII champion and No. 6 ranked Kansas State with both teams starting backup QB. Lost close game at Tennessee. QB injury held this team back.

Marshall 2004: 6-6, lost on 55-yard FG as time expired at Ohio State, lost 13-3 at Georgia. Blown out in bowl game by Cincinnati. Coach resigned following season.

After that was a stretch of poor seasons into 2011, which was just ok. 2013-2015 we’re ok. 2013 was very good in flashes. 2014 was great outside of one awful half. Marshall frankly failed to be anything close to what it was. I loved the late 90’s/early 00’s Herd teams but they’ve been a long time ago now. I hope to see them get back there in my lifetime.

I whipped this up on my phone and in a rush. The rage caused by the post I was responded to kept me from checking my work, but I think the point was made.

(06-02-2022 07:47 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(06-01-2022 10:19 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  Marshall 2001: 11-2, blown out by Florida, came back from 38-8 halftime deficit to beat ECU in bowl game. Game at TCU canceled by 9/11 and never rescheduled.

If you had a game cancelled, why did you still have 13 games?

A hastily thrown together home game with Youngstown State filled that gap. 11+conference championship game+bowl game.

In 2002, Marshall couldn’t get 12 regular season games (first year 12 was allowed), and wound up with 13 total again (11+ccg+bowl). Marshall was supposed to host TCU in 2002 but the schools couldn’t agree on what to do with 2001’s game in Ft. Worth. TCU demanded the 2002 game be moved to their place, Marshall wanted to play at TCU later but play in Huntington in 2002 as the original contract had said. Only a hand full of people know for sure if the contract was written for “first game in Ft. Worth” or “2001 in Ft. Worth.” Regardless, Marshall and TCU never played that home and home.

Marshall was also scheduled to play at LSU in 2003 in a buy game, but dumped out of that and got a 2-for-1 with Kansas State.

(06-02-2022 06:45 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  I'm curious, how many BCS/Access Bowls has Marshall played in or won compared to Boise St?

I agree that whole premise comparing us to Boise is funny, but to answer your question, there was no access to BCS or access bowls when we were on top of our game. We did help pave the way. In 1999, there were three undefeated teams in the nation. FSU, VaTech, and Marshall. FSU and VaTech played for the title. We had 2 BCS wins that year against Clemson and Temple(who was Big East, then) and went 13-0. We were ranked 12th before and 10th after the bowl game and easily would have qualified had that been an option. It wasn't until 2004, I believe, that the first non BCS team crashed the party. It was not common for what is G5, now, to get ranked at all in those days, let alone have 3 Heisman finalists in a 5 year span.

I know you were trying to slam us for not having gone to a bigger bowl, but the fact was it was not possible while we were the winningest team in the country for over a decade. So, you're welcome that the opportunity is now there for you. Not that UTEP will ever sniff it.

(06-02-2022 06:45 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  I'm curious, how many BCS/Access Bowls has Marshall played in or won compared to Boise St?

In what universe is Marshall being compared to Boise State? Marshall hasn’t been relevant since they were in the MAC. Boise State has been putting 10+ win seasons in the Big West, WAC and MWC. They’re the media’s G5 darling and probably the most recognized G5 school in the nation. Marshall has been “decent” to put it nicely but nothing compared to Boise State.

I’m so happy that cancer is leaving this conference in 28 days. Can’t wait.

(06-02-2022 03:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(06-02-2022 06:45 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  I'm curious, how many BCS/Access Bowls has Marshall played in or won compared to Boise St?

I agree that whole premise comparing us to Boise is funny, but to answer your question, there was no access to BCS or access bowls when we were on top of our game. We did help pave the way. In 1999, there were three undefeated teams in the nation. FSU, VaTech, and Marshall. FSU and VaTech played for the title. We had 2 BCS wins that year against Clemson and Temple(who was Big East, then) and went 13-0. We were ranked 12th before and 10th after the bowl game and easily would have qualified had that been an option. It wasn't until 2004, I believe, that the first non BCS team crashed the party. It was not common for what is G5, now, to get ranked at all in those days, let alone have 3 Heisman finalists in a 5 year span.

I know you were trying to slam us for not having gone to a bigger bowl, but the fact was it was not possible while we were the winningest team in the country for over a decade. So, you're welcome that the opportunity is now there for you. Not that UTEP will ever sniff it.

This is correct. For the first 8 years of the BCS (98-05), the championship game took up one of the four BCS bowls, so there were only 3 BCS bowls for non-playoff teams. That made it really tough for a non-AQ team to get in. In that 8 year period, only 2004 Utah made it in from the outside.

Once they made the championship game a stand alone game from the 4 BCS bowls and added an entrance criteria for non-AQ, we saw more teams get that chance. There were 7 non-AQ teams that made it in during the last 8 years (06-13).

Had the later rules been in place for the first half of the BCS, 98 Tulane, 99 Marshall, and 03 Miami OH would have gotten in.

I wouldnt say we werent relevant We have been one of the desirables in CUSA in brand. I think that is undeniable.

That said, yes, Boise passed us by every metric in football. The comparison is silly today. It wasn't before the BCS era.

We played boise in 1994 in the 1AA semifinals and the fatass umpire got in the way of a sure fire Todd Donnan completion... but they won. It is what it is. But let me ask you all this:

How many of you post about your program's history and tradition? Many of you do, so you can't really disparage ours, but you do...I get it.. you don't like us even more now. But some of us come over here because we have relationships with current CUSA teams and have respect for them.

(06-02-2022 03:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(06-02-2022 06:45 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  I'm curious, how many BCS/Access Bowls has Marshall played in or won compared to Boise St?

I agree that whole premise comparing us to Boise is funny, but to answer your question, there was no access to BCS or access bowls when we were on top of our game. We did help pave the way. In 1999, there were three undefeated teams in the nation. FSU, VaTech, and Marshall. FSU and VaTech played for the title. We had 2 BCS wins that year against Clemson and Temple(who was Big East, then) and went 13-0. We were ranked 12th before and 10th after the bowl game and easily would have qualified had that been an option. It wasn't until 2004, I believe, that the first non BCS team crashed the party. It was not common for what is G5, now, to get ranked at all in those days, let alone have 3 Heisman finalists in a 5 year span.

I know you were trying to slam us for not having gone to a bigger bowl, but the fact was it was not possible while we were the winningest team in the country for over a decade. So, you're welcome that the opportunity is now there for you. Not that UTEP will ever sniff it.

Got it, basically the same amount as UTEP.