(10-02-2022 07:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 11:29 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 01:48 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  Marching bands are a great tradition, but they're expensive and high-maintenance to do well. They work better on land-grant campuses than urban.

UNO is not an "urban" campus. It's 20 minutes from downtown along Lake Ponchartrain.

We can argue about what "urban" means, but to me, UNO is an urban campus. First, IIRC it is within the city limits. Second, the area along Ponchartrain is about two miles from city park, about five miles from the north side of the French Quarter, six from the central business district. if you wanted to you could walk from UNO to the quarter in a bit over an hour or so, though you'd risk some dodgy places in between.

No, it's not nestled among the tall office buildings of the central business district and canal street, but neither is Tulane, which is about 3-4 miles from there. IMO, it is an urban campus.

US News agrees with you, quo.

University of New Orleans is a public institution that was founded in 1958. It has a total undergraduate enrollment of 6,508 (fall 2021), its setting is urban, and the campus size is 195 acres. It utilizes a semester-based academic calendar.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uni...leans-2015

I had USN classifications in mind, but wasn't interested in whether Lake Ponchartrain is a 10- or 20-minute drive from downtown. My observation is simply that college marching bands as we know them are very 'Big Ten' in origin. That's the campus environment and student life that produced them.

Marching bands of this kind can be tough to maintain where schools serve higher percentages of commuting students, students with jobs, students enrolled part-time, students with families. University leaders do well to consider things like this before launching into extended commitments. If you're going to end up paying students to play just to have a band at all—on top of supplying instruments, uniforms, and faculty—wouldn't you rather have a great group of 10-15 rather than a big, sloppy group of 100?

Some communities have their own traditions and here New Orleans is blessed. Think of those great jazz bands that double as gospel and 'second line' bands in New Orleans funeral parades. That's an exciting tradition. It's been hugely influential in American culture—and for UNO it's there for the taking.

Don't believe me. Take it from Wynton!
https://youtu.be/FlMDR9bLeQM

https://www.neworleans.com/things-to-do/...z-funeral/

(10-02-2022 10:54 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 07:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 11:29 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  

(09-30-2022 01:48 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  Marching bands are a great tradition, but they're expensive and high-maintenance to do well. They work better on land-grant campuses than urban.

UNO is not an "urban" campus. It's 20 minutes from downtown along Lake Ponchartrain.

We can argue about what "urban" means, but to me, UNO is an urban campus. First, IIRC it is within the city limits. Second, the area along Ponchartrain is about two miles from city park, about five miles from the north side of the French Quarter, six from the central business district. if you wanted to you could walk from UNO to the quarter in a bit over an hour or so, though you'd risk some dodgy places in between.

No, it's not nestled among the tall office buildings of the central business district and canal street, but neither is Tulane, which is about 3-4 miles from there. IMO, it is an urban campus.

US News agrees with you, quo.

University of New Orleans is a public institution that was founded in 1958. It has a total undergraduate enrollment of 6,508 (fall 2021), its setting is urban, and the campus size is 195 acres. It utilizes a semester-based academic calendar.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uni...leans-2015

I had USN classifications in mind, but wasn't interested in whether Lake Ponchartrain is a 10- or 20-minute drive from downtown. My observation is simply that college marching bands as we know them are very 'Big Ten' in origin. That's the campus environment and student life that produced them.

Marching bands of this kind can be tough to maintain where schools serve higher percentages of commuting students, students with jobs, students enrolled part-time, students with families. University leaders do well to consider things like this before launching into extended commitments. If you're going to end up paying students to play just to have a band at all—on top of supplying instruments, uniforms, and faculty—wouldn't you rather have a great group of 10-15 rather than a big, sloppy group of 100?

Some communities have their own traditions and here New Orleans is blessed. Think of those great jazz bands that double as gospel and 'second line' bands in New Orleans funeral parades. That's an exciting tradition. It's been hugely influential in American culture—and for UNO it's there for the taking.

Don't believe me. Take it from Wynton!
https://youtu.be/FlMDR9bLeQM

https://www.neworleans.com/things-to-do/...z-funeral/

Yeah .. as I understand it, the location for the proposed UNO football stadium, which will be on-campus, is about six mlles from the Superdome.

That's pretty darn "in the city of New Orleans" to me. Urban as I reckon it.

As for music, as you say, NOLA has a blessed tradition.

(10-02-2022 05:59 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  

I'm not gonna lie, man. That's a sick looking helmet!

(10-03-2022 03:49 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 05:59 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  

I'm not gonna lie, man. That's a sick looking helmet!

Agreed - fantastic design choice right there.

I've been meaning to add my two cents to this. I think it would be a good thing for UNO to add football. First, it helps stabilize the Southland in football. Second, it provides a new rival for Southeastern Louisiana in football. Third, players in the metro area who want to stay in the metro area and play college football have another option. Fourth, the school can use the program to recruit future students.

I don't get why there are those who think this is a bad idea. Louisiana is very much like Texas, Florida, and the rest of the South. Football is king, and successful programs usually draw lots of fans every single game.