(11-17-2022 03:58 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:50 PM)Claw Wrote:  There will be a state mandated recount for Attorney General.

If those numbers change much, expect a recount for Governor as well.

They won't change much. They'll just count the fake and harvested ballots again and the broken machine election day ballots have already been shredded and burned.

How many fake ballots voted Republicans?

(11-17-2022 05:29 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:58 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:50 PM)Claw Wrote:  There will be a state mandated recount for Attorney General.

If those numbers change much, expect a recount for Governor as well.

They won't change much. They'll just count the fake and harvested ballots again and the broken machine election day ballots have already been shredded and burned.

How many fake ballots voted Republicans?

The first question people need to plop down an answer to is 'how many fake ballots' -- that is without crying endlessly about the walls and mountains of them.

Maybe some evidence of that first before to gnashing of the teeth.

(11-17-2022 05:29 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:58 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:50 PM)Claw Wrote:  There will be a state mandated recount for Attorney General.

If those numbers change much, expect a recount for Governor as well.

They won't change much. They'll just count the fake and harvested ballots again and the broken machine election day ballots have already been shredded and burned.

How many fake ballots voted Republicans?

We don't know. Maybe a few? Maybe millions?

Maybe we should have in-depth audits into all of this? One side seems to want it. The other side, not so much.

(11-17-2022 02:27 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Yet going down nonetheless

If anyone knows about going down, I’m sure you do.

Pretty good pitch to be Trumps VP.

(11-17-2022 02:21 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  While Trumpists and election deniers all over the country lost and did the honorable thing by conceding, the would-be MAGA Queen plans to double down on conspiracy and turn off some segment of the many voters who did vote for her. Works great for me, I think she is potentially the most dangerous Republican to crawl out of the cesspool since Trump himself and anything she does that damages her prospects of actually being elected next time is a huge win for Arizona and the country.

Note the difference with what Stacey Abrams said in 2018 after losing the Georgia governor's race to Brian Kemp -

"Concession means to acknowledge an action is right, true or proper. As a woman of conscience and faith, I cannot concede. But my assessment is that the law currently allows no further viable remedy.

Now, I could certainly bring a new case to keep this one contest alive, but I don’t want to hold public office if I need to scheme my way into the post. Because the title of Governor isn’t nearly as important as our shared title. Voters."

https://qz.com/1468560/read-stacey-abram...ion-speech

You have outed yourself and aren't to be taken seriously.

(11-17-2022 08:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

You do now that you are allowed to drop off multiple ballots when dropping off for family members, household members, or people you are a caregiver for, right?

Ominous music doesn’t make it illegal.

What do you want to happen? “I’m going to drop off my ballot honey, you better follow me and waste gas dropping yours off in a separate car. Don’t want the guy watching the ballot box with a gun to think I’m a democrat”.

(11-17-2022 08:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

This is why mail in should be abandoned. This all may be perfectly legit. It all may not be. No way of knowing. If I can't know?...It is a bad system. Its like anything else...The more you handle something the more chances for something to go wrong and in this case more chance of possible fraud. Mail in voting makes the system look vulnerable and decreased voter confidence in the system. That alone should make it the wrong way to run an election.

Give people plenty of early voting time, time to have validated absentee balloting and even change election day to a Saturday if necessary. This mail in stuff is just a bad idea...period.

(11-18-2022 11:14 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 08:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

You do now that you are allowed to drop off multiple ballots when dropping off for family members, household members, or people you are a caregiver for, right?

Ominous music doesn’t make it illegal.

What do you want to happen? “I’m going to drop off my ballot honey, you better follow me and waste gas dropping yours off in a separate car. Don’t want the guy watching the ballot box with a gun to think I’m a democrat”.

What security is in place to ensure that every one of these cars is complying? If a single one of these cars isn't following what you said is "ok" they are disenfranchising other voters.

This is not how voting should be done. Period


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(11-18-2022 11:36 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-18-2022 11:14 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 08:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

You do now that you are allowed to drop off multiple ballots when dropping off for family members, household members, or people you are a caregiver for, right?

Ominous music doesn’t make it illegal.

What do you want to happen? “I’m going to drop off my ballot honey, you better follow me and waste gas dropping yours off in a separate car. Don’t want the guy watching the ballot box with a gun to think I’m a democrat”.

What security is in place to ensure that every one of these cars is complying? If a single one of these cars isn't following what you said is "ok" they are disenfranchising other voters.

This is not how voting should be done. Period


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The only difference between this and dropping it off at a blue postal box is that with the drop box you know the ballot is going to get there on time.

(11-18-2022 12:13 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-18-2022 11:36 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-18-2022 11:14 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 08:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

You do now that you are allowed to drop off multiple ballots when dropping off for family members, household members, or people you are a caregiver for, right?

Ominous music doesn’t make it illegal.

What do you want to happen? “I’m going to drop off my ballot honey, you better follow me and waste gas dropping yours off in a separate car. Don’t want the guy watching the ballot box with a gun to think I’m a democrat”.

What security is in place to ensure that every one of these cars is complying? If a single one of these cars isn't following what you said is "ok" they are disenfranchising other voters.

This is not how voting should be done. Period


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The only difference between this and dropping it off at a blue postal box is that with the drop box you know the ballot is going to get there on time.

Same questions apply

Keep going, you're in the process of making the case against mass mail in voting.

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Taken photos of you dropping multiple ballots into the Dropbox is a dead giveaway of being a Mule that’s being paid

(11-18-2022 12:30 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Taken photos of you dropping multiple ballots into the Dropbox is a dead giveaway of being a Mule that’s being paid

Right, there is no way at all someone would make an “I voted” social media post with a pic of them dropping the ballot of.

(11-18-2022 12:30 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Taken photos of you dropping multiple ballots into the Dropbox is a dead giveaway of being a Mule that’s being paid

You do know that in pretty much every place with drop boxes that you're allowed to drop off ballots for your family parents and kids, right?

And in Arizona, a health care assistance worker could drop off a ballot for every person they care for in a nursing facility. And you can drop one off for anyone who lives in your home whether they're related or not.

Quote:All eligible voters may request a ballot-by-mail and may mail back their voted ballot or drop it off at their County Recorder's Office, any official ballot drop-box, any early voting location, or any Election Day voting location in the county. Ballots must be received by election officials by 7:00 p.m. on Election Day.

Arizona law allows a caregiver, family member, household member, or election official to help return a voter's ballot to county election officials, including dropping off the ballot at a voting location. These categories are broadly defined (A.R.S. § 16-1005):

- A caregiver is a person who provides medical or health care assistance to the voter in a residence, nursing care institution, hospice facility, assisted living center, assisted living facility, assisted living home, residential care institution, adult day health care facility or adult foster care home."
- Family member: "a person who is related to the voter by blood, marriage, adoption or legal guardianship."
- Household member: "a person who resides at the same residence as the voter."

https://azsos.gov/elections/about-electi...on-conduct

Wait, they are sending kids ballots as well?

(11-18-2022 01:53 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Wait, they are sending kids ballots as well?

You can vote when you're 18. Many 18 year-olds still live at home. Regardless, even if your kid doesn't live with you, In Arizona you can still drop of their ballot in a drop box!

Does this really still need to be explained to you?

(11-18-2022 11:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 08:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

This is why mail in should be abandoned. This all may be perfectly legit. It all may not be. No way of knowing. If I can't know?...It is a bad system. Its like anything else...The more you handle something the more chances for something to go wrong and in this case more chance of possible fraud. Mail in voting makes the system look vulnerable and decreased voter confidence in the system. That alone should make it the wrong way to run an election.

Give people plenty of early voting time, time to have validated absentee balloting and even change election day to a Saturday if necessary. This mail in stuff is just a bad idea...period.

There are elderly, the ill, the disabled and people without a car used the mail in ballots. People who also have to work on the election day could used the mail in if they can't get there. You need to allow people access the election, not making them go through hoops and hard to vote.