I'm just going to say what I think here (excuse me).

When is this DUMB thread going to die or be sent to smack talk???

(03-13-2023 06:45 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 06:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 04:15 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 12:41 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 11:11 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  BS! You clearly didn't look up their attendance numbers before making this comment. I've been to a few games and the numbers are not too far off from actual butts in seats in football. Their basketball attendance is just as bad as the other 50% of G5 institutions with horrible attendance (sarcasm).

You should see the last 5 basketball games KSU had. They sold out their arena lol. The last game was aired on ESPN2, and the the arena was sold out and the crowd was crazy.

GSU record ticket sells as attendance while KSU records butts in seats. Both schools have low attendance PERIOD.

You can not compare the football attendance of GSU and KSU. That's just a nonsensical argument. And I watched the better part of the last three games for KSU and they did not sell them out. It was actually 50%, 68% and 83% attendance. The attendance was good (for KSU home games). In reality they didn't even sell out the ASUN Championship game that put them in their first a NCAA Tournament appearance. And the game was against one of their two budding rivals Liberty (JSU is the other). You can't just make up facts to support your argument.

Not true. I was at the game. It was a sellout plus.

Not true? Look up the attendance. KSU reported it. Jones just stated that they report actual attendance. I root for KSU's success as well, but I won't start making up numbers. Facts do matter. It may have felt full, but it wasn't.

The game was a sell out again look at the pictures and the game film from ESPN. You had people standing. The fans were so loud, you could not hear the announcers. KSU never recored accurate attendance.

(03-13-2023 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Someone help me here. Maybe I missed it somewhere but have these two schools been invited to Cusa? Why are we arguing about who is better? Another big question is: how receptive would they be if they were given an invitation to join? ...and would they?

You are out of the loop Kennesaw State is joining C-USA in 2024.

(03-13-2023 06:45 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 06:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 04:15 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 12:41 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 11:11 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  BS! You clearly didn't look up their attendance numbers before making this comment. I've been to a few games and the numbers are not too far off from actual butts in seats in football. Their basketball attendance is just as bad as the other 50% of G5 institutions with horrible attendance (sarcasm).

You should see the last 5 basketball games KSU had. They sold out their arena lol. The last game was aired on ESPN2, and the the arena was sold out and the crowd was crazy.

GSU record ticket sells as attendance while KSU records butts in seats. Both schools have low attendance PERIOD.

You can not compare the football attendance of GSU and KSU. That's just a nonsensical argument. And I watched the better part of the last three games for KSU and they did not sell them out. It was actually 50%, 68% and 83% attendance. The attendance was good (for KSU home games). In reality they didn't even sell out the ASUN Championship game that put them in their first a NCAA Tournament appearance. And the game was against one of their two budding rivals Liberty (JSU is the other). You can't just make up facts to support your argument.

Not true. I was at the game. It was a sellout plus.

Not true? Look up the attendance. KSU reported it. Jones just stated that they report actual attendance. I root for KSU's success as well, but I won't start making up numbers. Facts do matter. It may have felt full, but it wasn't.

So the announced attendance at the game stating it was a sellout and an all time attendance record was incorrect. The stands were full and and the walkway had people watching from the banister around the court constantly being monitored by staff asking people to try to find a seat (I was asked twice to relocate and try to find a seat). I did go to the LU section and stood up.

Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

(03-14-2023 10:07 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 06:45 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 06:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 04:15 PM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 12:41 PM)jones682 Wrote:  You should see the last 5 basketball games KSU had. They sold out their arena lol. The last game was aired on ESPN2, and the the arena was sold out and the crowd was crazy.

GSU record ticket sells as attendance while KSU records butts in seats. Both schools have low attendance PERIOD.

You can not compare the football attendance of GSU and KSU. That's just a nonsensical argument. And I watched the better part of the last three games for KSU and they did not sell them out. It was actually 50%, 68% and 83% attendance. The attendance was good (for KSU home games). In reality they didn't even sell out the ASUN Championship game that put them in their first a NCAA Tournament appearance. And the game was against one of their two budding rivals Liberty (JSU is the other). You can't just make up facts to support your argument.

Not true. I was at the game. It was a sellout plus.

Not true? Look up the attendance. KSU reported it. Jones just stated that they report actual attendance. I root for KSU's success as well, but I won't start making up numbers. Facts do matter. It may have felt full, but it wasn't.

So the announced attendance at the game stating it was a sellout and an all time attendance record was incorrect. The stands were full and and the walkway had people watching from the banister around the court constantly being monitored by staff asking people to try to find a seat (I was asked twice to relocate and try to find a seat). I did go to the LU section and stood up.

Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

Georgia State used Groupon to sell tickets one time lol

(03-14-2023 10:07 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

You want to make another poll on SBC board? You didn't like the poll result here? By all means, feel free.

Why are you pushing this fictional GSU vs KSU narrative in the first place anyways? If UGA and GT schedule each other annually, then Georgia State vs Georgia Southern in-state rivalry already exists.

Kennesaw football draws 2k actual butts in the seat. Here's their coach publicly roasting their own fanbase after hosting a playoff game at home. Enjoy the "potential" of your conference mate all you want, but leave us out of it.

(03-14-2023 02:52 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 10:07 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

You want to make another poll on SBC board? You didn't like the poll result here? By all means, feel free.

Why are you pushing this fictional GSU vs KSU narrative in the first place anyways? If UGA and GT schedule each other annually, then Georgia State vs Georgia Southern in-state rivalry already exists.

Kennesaw football draws 2k actual butts in the seat. Here's their coach publicly roasting their own fanbase after hosting a playoff game at home. Enjoy the "potential" of your conference mate all you want, but leave us out of it.

KSU draws more than 2K a game. Plus the KSU vs GSU game drew GSU second largest crowed at your stadium and 12K KSU fans showed up. More people came to the KSU vs GSU game than any GSU vs GA Southern game. KSU also drew well the game vs Georgia Tech. You are referring to one playoff game were we played Davison (a non scholarship team) and beat the crap out of them. Nobody wanted to see that. Do you have an issue with KSU? You have been lying about KSU the whole thread. If you keep on, I am going to start lying about GSU. Like there conference championships in football lol

KSU had more fans at that game than GSU at home. Crazy.

(03-14-2023 02:52 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 10:07 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

You want to make another poll on SBC board? You didn't like the poll result here? By all means, feel free.

Why are you pushing this fictional GSU vs KSU narrative in the first place anyways? If UGA and GT schedule each other annually, then Georgia State vs Georgia Southern in-state rivalry already exists.

Kennesaw football draws 2k actual butts in the seat. Here's their coach publicly roasting their own fanbase after hosting a playoff game at home. Enjoy the "potential" of your conference mate all you want, but leave us out of it.

It's not a narrative, it is a post about two teams in the Atlanta area. One being a recent FCS to FBS callup. The other soon to e a FCS to FBS callup. When LU was desiring to be FBS, I monitored closely the teams considered for FBS expansion. I've followed those teams from a distance to view their success. And LU has played GaSt during those times. Reading posts from others, not GaSt fans, as FBS GaSt has been billed as a program with lackluster success, poor facilities and poor support.

With KSU being near Atlanta and not in Atlanta, and becoming a C-USA member making the FBS jump, it is a fair comparison to judge the current and potential development of both programs. Congrats to GaSt on their few signature wins. Those wins always help a G5 gain attention. And those select wins for GaSt have seemed to have minimal effect on the sports program.

I get this post pisses off GaSt fans. If I was a GaSt fans I would be pissed too. And this posts is on the C-USA board and if GaSt fans choose to come and express their sentiments so be it. That does not change the tone or intent of the post. Time will tell which of the programs will be the better FBS sports success. If we continue to use stats to advance a point, then we are missing the point. It's how the schools are perceived with their athletic support and sports identity. Can anyone truly say GaSt has a major sports presence in the ATL market? Or, is the school swallowed up by the mega market and experiences difficulty gaining success and identity? I live just outside of Atlanta in Rome, GA an hour+ from Atlanta. Here it's all Georgia, Georgia, Georgia and one in ten GaTech. GaSt is not even a blimp on the radar even after a signature win. And there are GaSt grads in the area.

Will KSU fare better? Maybe. Will KSU be also swallowed up by the ATL market like GaSt? Maybe. Will KSU experience the same FCS/FBS glide path GaSt did? Maybe and not likely. If KSU and GaSt were commodities, I would be investing in KSU for the potential and upside vs. the current operations of GaSt. GaSt so far has failed to have their house in order and the school has had enough time to at least carve at a least a little niche.

(03-15-2023 05:55 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 02:52 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 10:07 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

You want to make another poll on SBC board? You didn't like the poll result here? By all means, feel free.

Why are you pushing this fictional GSU vs KSU narrative in the first place anyways? If UGA and GT schedule each other annually, then Georgia State vs Georgia Southern in-state rivalry already exists.

Kennesaw football draws 2k actual butts in the seat. Here's their coach publicly roasting their own fanbase after hosting a playoff game at home. Enjoy the "potential" of your conference mate all you want, but leave us out of it.

It's not a narrative, it is a post about two teams in the Atlanta area. One being a recent FCS to FBS callup. The other soon to e a FCS to FBS callup. When LU was desiring to be FBS, I monitored closely the teams considered for FBS expansion. I've followed those teams from a distance to view their success. And LU has played GaSt during those times. Reading posts from others, not GaSt fans, as FBS GaSt has been billed as a program with lackluster success, poor facilities and poor support.

With KSU being near Atlanta and not in Atlanta, and becoming a C-USA member making the FBS jump, it is a fair comparison to judge the current and potential development of both programs. Congrats to GaSt on their few signature wins. Those wins always help a G5 gain attention. And those select wins for GaSt have seemed to have minimal effect on the sports program.

I get this post pisses off GaSt fans. If I was a GaSt fans I would be pissed too. And this posts is on the C-USA board and if GaSt fans choose to come and express their sentiments so be it. That does not change the tone or intent of the post. Time will tell which of the programs will be the better FBS sports success. If we continue to use stats to advance a point, then we are missing the point. It's how the schools are perceived with their athletic support and sports identity. Can anyone truly say GaSt has a major sports presence in the ATL market? Or, is the school swallowed up by the mega market and experiences difficulty gaining success and identity? I live just outside of Atlanta in Rome, GA an hour+ from Atlanta. Here it's all Georgia, Georgia, Georgia and one in ten GaTech. GaSt is not even a blimp on the radar even after a signature win. And there are GaSt grads in the area.

Will KSU fare better? Maybe. Will KSU be also swallowed up by the ATL market like GaSt? Maybe. Will KSU experience the same FCS/FBS glide path GaSt did? Maybe and not likely. If KSU and GaSt were commodities, I would be investing in KSU for the potential and upside vs. the current operations of GaSt. GaSt so far has failed to have their house in order and the school has had enough time to at least carve at a least a little niche.

1) I was actually with you about UGA's overall dominance in the market, until your tangent about Kennesaw. Aside from your personal feelings regarding the matter, you haven't provided any concrete proof to convince me why KSU can reach beyond than those with personal ties to KSU living in Cobb County. If GSU is attempting to build an entirely new fanbase among young working professionals in urban metros within the I-285, KSU operates directly in the UGA country in the nearby suburban/rural market. It's no easy task.
2) I've shown tangible data such as stats, salaries, signature wins, SP+, etc. (still have plenty more stat sheet to cover if we want to drag it on) why Kennesaw isn't there yet to have GSU AD's attention (at least not yet,) but again, all I see are anecdotal evidence sprinkled with personal hopes and wishes in your long-winded post. I certainly understand why you're emotionally rooting for KSU to do well. Kennesaw's growth will be tied to the future viability of your new conference.
3) You mentioned facilities. There's absolutely no way Kennesaw has invested more funds into revenue sports and the facilities than Georgia State. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.


While I admit I've been mainly returning to this thread for the pure entertainment of watching jones682 self-destruct this poll against his own school with such eloquent "just stop, you suck, just shut up, just stop" arguments, this was a pretty pointless exercise. GSU and KSU will never be in the same conference. GSU & KSU ADs do not an open line of communication to schedule games. For the foreseeable future, neither schools will directly compete in anything but occasional Olympic sports to save costs.

(03-15-2023 02:33 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(03-15-2023 05:55 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 02:52 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 10:07 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

You want to make another poll on SBC board? You didn't like the poll result here? By all means, feel free.

Why are you pushing this fictional GSU vs KSU narrative in the first place anyways? If UGA and GT schedule each other annually, then Georgia State vs Georgia Southern in-state rivalry already exists.

Kennesaw football draws 2k actual butts in the seat. Here's their coach publicly roasting their own fanbase after hosting a playoff game at home. Enjoy the "potential" of your conference mate all you want, but leave us out of it.

It's not a narrative, it is a post about two teams in the Atlanta area. One being a recent FCS to FBS callup. The other soon to e a FCS to FBS callup. When LU was desiring to be FBS, I monitored closely the teams considered for FBS expansion. I've followed those teams from a distance to view their success. And LU has played GaSt during those times. Reading posts from others, not GaSt fans, as FBS GaSt has been billed as a program with lackluster success, poor facilities and poor support.

With KSU being near Atlanta and not in Atlanta, and becoming a C-USA member making the FBS jump, it is a fair comparison to judge the current and potential development of both programs. Congrats to GaSt on their few signature wins. Those wins always help a G5 gain attention. And those select wins for GaSt have seemed to have minimal effect on the sports program.

I get this post pisses off GaSt fans. If I was a GaSt fans I would be pissed too. And this posts is on the C-USA board and if GaSt fans choose to come and express their sentiments so be it. That does not change the tone or intent of the post. Time will tell which of the programs will be the better FBS sports success. If we continue to use stats to advance a point, then we are missing the point. It's how the schools are perceived with their athletic support and sports identity. Can anyone truly say GaSt has a major sports presence in the ATL market? Or, is the school swallowed up by the mega market and experiences difficulty gaining success and identity? I live just outside of Atlanta in Rome, GA an hour+ from Atlanta. Here it's all Georgia, Georgia, Georgia and one in ten GaTech. GaSt is not even a blimp on the radar even after a signature win. And there are GaSt grads in the area.

Will KSU fare better? Maybe. Will KSU be also swallowed up by the ATL market like GaSt? Maybe. Will KSU experience the same FCS/FBS glide path GaSt did? Maybe and not likely. If KSU and GaSt were commodities, I would be investing in KSU for the potential and upside vs. the current operations of GaSt. GaSt so far has failed to have their house in order and the school has had enough time to at least carve at a least a little niche.

1) I was actually with you about UGA's overall dominance in the market, until your tangent about Kennesaw. Aside from your personal feelings regarding the matter, you haven't provided any concrete proof to convince me why KSU can reach beyond than those with personal ties to KSU living in Cobb County. If GSU is attempting to build an entirely new fanbase among young working professionals in urban metros within the I-285, KSU operates directly in the UGA country in the nearby suburban/rural market. It's no easy task.
2) I've shown tangible data such as stats, salaries, signature wins, SP+, etc. (still have plenty more stat sheet to cover if we want to drag it on) why Kennesaw isn't there yet to have GSU AD's attention (at least not yet,) but again, all I see are anecdotal evidence sprinkled with personal hopes and wishes in your long-winded post. I certainly understand why you're emotionally rooting for KSU to do well. Kennesaw's growth will be tied to the future viability of your new conference.
3) You mentioned facilities. There's absolutely no way Kennesaw has invested more funds into revenue sports and the facilities than Georgia State. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.


While I admit I've been mainly returning to this thread for the pure entertainment of watching jones682 self-destruct this poll against his own school with such eloquent "just stop, you suck, just shut up, just stop" arguments, this was a pretty pointless exercise. GSU and KSU will never be in the same conference. GSU & KSU ADs do not an open line of communication to schedule games. For the foreseeable future, neither schools will directly compete in anything but occasional Olympic sports to save costs.

You can't see any scheduling between us in football? Our game at turner field is one of the better attended games GSU has had. I figured it'd be a no brainier for our ad's to try and get a series going. It's kids that went to the same highschools and alumni that work in the same buildings. Feels like playing with any regularity it'd turn into a fun rivalry.

To me the appeal of fbs is it making it easier to schedule with southern, state, and Jax State in the future. Also, sorry for keeping this thread alive if that last message would have killed it.

(03-15-2023 02:33 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(03-15-2023 05:55 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 02:52 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 10:07 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  Most times having the actual experience is superior to what one reads as information. I am guessing you did not watch the game. If so, that would explain the refusal to believe it was a sellout. Has the point deteriorated that arguing about a sellout makes GaSt a more desirable FBS team than future KSU? Not on my watch. I find myself supporting KSU as a LU fan. That's because the truth hurts sometimes when one's opinion or dislike is easily refuted. Go to the SBC and express the enormous FBS success GaSt has enjoyed and the huge, potential upside the school enjoys. And the school's impressive fan interest, attendance and support. The posts will be belittled and mocked much harder there than here.

You want to make another poll on SBC board? You didn't like the poll result here? By all means, feel free.

Why are you pushing this fictional GSU vs KSU narrative in the first place anyways? If UGA and GT schedule each other annually, then Georgia State vs Georgia Southern in-state rivalry already exists.

Kennesaw football draws 2k actual butts in the seat. Here's their coach publicly roasting their own fanbase after hosting a playoff game at home. Enjoy the "potential" of your conference mate all you want, but leave us out of it.

It's not a narrative, it is a post about two teams in the Atlanta area. One being a recent FCS to FBS callup. The other soon to e a FCS to FBS callup. When LU was desiring to be FBS, I monitored closely the teams considered for FBS expansion. I've followed those teams from a distance to view their success. And LU has played GaSt during those times. Reading posts from others, not GaSt fans, as FBS GaSt has been billed as a program with lackluster success, poor facilities and poor support.

With KSU being near Atlanta and not in Atlanta, and becoming a C-USA member making the FBS jump, it is a fair comparison to judge the current and potential development of both programs. Congrats to GaSt on their few signature wins. Those wins always help a G5 gain attention. And those select wins for GaSt have seemed to have minimal effect on the sports program.

I get this post pisses off GaSt fans. If I was a GaSt fans I would be pissed too. And this posts is on the C-USA board and if GaSt fans choose to come and express their sentiments so be it. That does not change the tone or intent of the post. Time will tell which of the programs will be the better FBS sports success. If we continue to use stats to advance a point, then we are missing the point. It's how the schools are perceived with their athletic support and sports identity. Can anyone truly say GaSt has a major sports presence in the ATL market? Or, is the school swallowed up by the mega market and experiences difficulty gaining success and identity? I live just outside of Atlanta in Rome, GA an hour+ from Atlanta. Here it's all Georgia, Georgia, Georgia and one in ten GaTech. GaSt is not even a blimp on the radar even after a signature win. And there are GaSt grads in the area.

Will KSU fare better? Maybe. Will KSU be also swallowed up by the ATL market like GaSt? Maybe. Will KSU experience the same FCS/FBS glide path GaSt did? Maybe and not likely. If KSU and GaSt were commodities, I would be investing in KSU for the potential and upside vs. the current operations of GaSt. GaSt so far has failed to have their house in order and the school has had enough time to at least carve at a least a little niche.

1) I was actually with you about UGA's overall dominance in the market, until your tangent about Kennesaw. Aside from your personal feelings regarding the matter, you haven't provided any concrete proof to convince me why KSU can reach beyond than those with personal ties to KSU living in Cobb County. If GSU is attempting to build an entirely new fanbase among young working professionals in urban metros within the I-285, KSU operates directly in the UGA country in the nearby suburban/rural market. It's no easy task.
2) I've shown tangible data such as stats, salaries, signature wins, SP+, etc. (still have plenty more stat sheet to cover if we want to drag it on) why Kennesaw isn't there yet to have GSU AD's attention (at least not yet,) but again, all I see are anecdotal evidence sprinkled with personal hopes and wishes in your long-winded post. I certainly understand why you're emotionally rooting for KSU to do well. Kennesaw's growth will be tied to the future viability of your new conference.
3) You mentioned facilities. There's absolutely no way Kennesaw has invested more funds into revenue sports and the facilities than Georgia State. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.


While I admit I've been mainly returning to this thread for the pure entertainment of watching jones682 self-destruct this poll against his own school with such eloquent "just stop, you suck, just shut up, just stop" arguments, this was a pretty pointless exercise. GSU and KSU will never be in the same conference. GSU & KSU ADs do not an open line of communication to schedule games. For the foreseeable future, neither schools will directly compete in anything but occasional Olympic sports to save costs.

Georgia State is 2 miles east of a P5 school. Georgia Tech fan base kills GSU fan base or any other fanbase outside of UGA. Nobody supports non P5 schools in Georgia and that is apart of the problem. Georgia State moved to the FBS too fast and that is the reason why you have issues of building a good program because you never built a good foundation in the beginning. KSU has built a foundation. You also have to look at the programs when they were moving to the FBS. KSU had a larger budget than GSU when GSU moved to the FBS.

So yall have built a good foundation of like 4k fans.... cool.

Also have you heard of inflation?

(03-15-2023 04:53 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So yall have built a good foundation of like 4k fans.... cool.

Also have you heard of inflation?

KSU has built a foundation of winning. They built a solid winning program unlike the program that you are ridding on. Even if you take into account inflation KSU budget was over 10M more.

(03-15-2023 04:53 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So yall have built a good foundation of like 4k fans.... cool.

Also have you heard of inflation?

From an outsider’s perspective- that is about 3500 more people than I have ever seen as a GA State game on TV. Maybe I tuned into the wrong games but it looks like mostly parents and old people at the games. If they are students, they aren’t traditional students.

Georgia Southern seems to have good support with a traditional fan base that contains a mix of both young and old people of all walks of life. I have never seen this at a GA State game. Prior to Kennesaw being in the CUSA discussion, I had never heard of them and the name is pretty out there. Anything “obscure name state” is going to seem strange to an outsider. But I tuned into a few games and while their crowds aren’t big - they seem to have a lot of energy and look like the GA Southern type of crowd - with a good mix of traditional looking students and traditional looking alumni. I may be way off base, but that’s my perception of the two programs based on tuning into a handful of games. I think KSU has a much higher upside based on what I have seen. They look the part. Oh, and they are beating Xavier right now - that doesn’t hurt!

Kennesaw beating a very good Xavier team at the half

(03-17-2023 12:55 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Kennesaw beating a very good Xavier team at the half

Yep, and their coach isn’t spazzing out and breaking his own leg. He looks like he has been there before. Granted, he isn’t there anymore - but that impression is burned in my memory forever!

(03-17-2023 12:56 PM)MeanGreenStebo Wrote:  

(03-17-2023 12:55 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Kennesaw beating a very good Xavier team at the half

Yep, and their coach isn’t spazzing out and breaking his own leg. He looks like he has been there before.

Because he has been there before. I went there with Texas A&M and Maury State.

(03-17-2023 01:11 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(03-17-2023 12:56 PM)MeanGreenStebo Wrote:  

(03-17-2023 12:55 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Kennesaw beating a very good Xavier team at the half

Yep, and their coach isn’t spazzing out and breaking his own leg. He looks like he has been there before.

Because he has been there before. I went there with Texas A&M and Maury State.

Seriously? “Maury State”. It is Murray State, unless there is another one I don’t know about?

(03-17-2023 03:18 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(03-17-2023 01:11 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(03-17-2023 12:56 PM)MeanGreenStebo Wrote:  

(03-17-2023 12:55 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Kennesaw beating a very good Xavier team at the half

Yep, and their coach isn’t spazzing out and breaking his own leg. He looks like he has been there before.

Because he has been there before. I went there with Texas A&M and Maury State.

Seriously? “Maury State”. It is Murray State, unless there is another one I don’t know about?

Murray State typo