Desanctus got a 2 point bounce after announcing. Thats all I'm hearing.

If Trump had handed his Twitter account over to Kayleigh, he’d probably still be president. She was the best press secretary I’ve seen since Dana Perino.

To the people saying that's just how primaries are. I wish the dems attacked like this making crap up about each other. Biden saying Gavin has the worst state in the U.S. attacking him with republican talking points. It would probably end up with both of them losing and Gavin ending up losing California.

Especially with Trump and a large majority of their followers. You can see the results already. There are plenty here who think DeSantis is a deep state plant because Trump said so and will never vote for him no matter what. That's not just pointing out differences for a debate. That's destroying the republican field in whatever way possible to make sure you win.

(06-01-2023 10:51 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  To the people saying that's just how primaries are. I wish the dems attacked like this making crap up about each other. Biden saying Gavin has the worst state in the U.S. attacking him with republican talking points. It would probably end up with both of them losing and Gavin ending up losing California.

Especially with Trump and a large majority of their followers. You can see the results already. There are plenty here who think DeSantis is a deep state plant because Trump said so and will never vote for him no matter what. That's not just pointing out differences for a debate. That's destroying the republican field in whatever way possible to make sure you win.

It's mostly the white trash and boomer Trump supporters who think this way.

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

So let me get this straight. Donald Trump is so mad at the leftist media he said that Ron DeSantis had turned Florida into one of the worst states? He's so mad at the leftist media he's attacking Ron DeSantis for supporting an FBI director that Donald Trump was the one who picked said FBI director?

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Good points


*not that he didn't bring any of it on himself, but still good points

(06-01-2023 11:04 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

So let me get this straight. Donald Trump is so mad at the leftist media he said that Ron DeSantis had turned Florida into one of the worst states? He's so mad at the leftist media he's attacking Ron DeSantis for supporting an FBI director that Donald Trump was the one who picked said FBI director?

I'm saying that the constant harassment for 7+ years has probably made him lash out at everything. Didn't say it was right, just an observation.

Beat a dog every day and it will act very differently.

(06-01-2023 10:53 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:51 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  To the people saying that's just how primaries are. I wish the dems attacked like this making crap up about each other. Biden saying Gavin has the worst state in the U.S. attacking him with republican talking points. It would probably end up with both of them losing and Gavin ending up losing California.

Especially with Trump and a large majority of their followers. You can see the results already. There are plenty here who think DeSantis is a deep state plant because Trump said so and will never vote for him no matter what. That's not just pointing out differences for a debate. That's destroying the republican field in whatever way possible to make sure you win.

It's mostly the white trash and boomer Trump supporters who think this way.

DeSantis can't win without white trash and boomers. That's the problem. If he does somehow knock off Trump, he better have a plan to reconcile other than hope the country is in that bad of shape that they show up and hold their noses. Otherwise, the best thing that could happen to this country is Trump dropping dead of a massive heart attack or stroke very soon.

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

That's the reason I'm voting FOR him.

And yes, he would have been treated like a KING if he had run as a Democrat in 2016.

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

We will get 4 years of the exact same garbage from the media and democrats no matter if its Trump or DeSantis.

It simple does not matter who the republican nominees is, they will attack them exactly the same with the exact same ferocity, corruption and lies.

DeSantis can say all the right things at all the right moments, they will just lie and make up things he never actually said just like they did to Trump over and over and over again.

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

Its just delusional to think its going to be any different of DeSantis wins.

Keep in mind I am voting for DeSantis, but I am in no way foolish enough to think a DeSantis presidency would not be anther 4 years of impeachments, investigations and a tsunami of fake news and total insanity from all the same people.

The second DeSantis wins, he will be decreed as "worse than Trump" and Trumps white supremacists agenda on steroids and worse than ever.

(06-01-2023 12:30 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

Its just delusional to think it going to be any different of DeSantis wins.

Keep in mind I am voting for DeSantis, but I am in no way foolish enough to think a DeSantis presidency would not anther 4 years of impeachments, investigations and a tsunami of fake news and total insanity from all the same people.

The second DeSantis wins, he will be decreed as "worse than Trump" and Trumps white supremacists agenda on steroids and worse than ever.

Yep. 100%.

(06-01-2023 12:30 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

Its just delusional to think its going to be any different of DeSantis wins.

Keep in mind I am voting for DeSantis, but I am in no way foolish enough to think a DeSantis presidency would not be anther 4 years of impeachments, investigations and a tsunami of fake news and total insanity from all the same people.

The second DeSantis wins, he will be decreed as "worse than Trump" and Trumps white supremacists agenda on steroids and worse than ever.

Disagree... they'll try to make him unpopular by pinning everything negative on him and refusing to give him credit for anything positive, but there won't be impeachments, investigations, and made up fake news. The news will be bias and facts twisted to meet the democrat narrative, yes, but it won't be fake and they won't impeach him. They didn't even impeach Bush. Only one man generates that level of hatred.

(06-01-2023 12:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 09:16 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  This is why I can't stand him. He just makes crap up when he attacks people. I think the biggest area Trump can lose in is Covid. It would be in his best interest not bring it up.

Also I love the twitter factchecks.

If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

We will get 4 years of the exact same garbage from the media and democrats no matter if its Trump or DeSantis.

It simple does not matter who the republican nominees is, they will attack them exactly the same with the exact same ferocity, corruption and lies.

DeSantis can say all the right things at all the right moments, they will just lie and make up things he never actually said just like they did to Trump over and over and over again.

EXACTLY!!! Whoever runs under the Republican banner will be portrayed as racist baby killing Hitler by the time the campaign ends. Attempting to find a Republican candidate the press wont attack is futile. The press hated presidential candidate McCain and the press hated presidential candidate Romney---both of which voted with Democrats anytime it really mattered---which should have made the press treat them at least somewhat fairly with respect to their candidacy----but it didnt.

(06-01-2023 12:51 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 12:30 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

Its just delusional to think its going to be any different of DeSantis wins.

Keep in mind I am voting for DeSantis, but I am in no way foolish enough to think a DeSantis presidency would not be anther 4 years of impeachments, investigations and a tsunami of fake news and total insanity from all the same people.

The second DeSantis wins, he will be decreed as "worse than Trump" and Trumps white supremacists agenda on steroids and worse than ever.

Disagree... they'll try to make him unpopular by pinning everything negative on him and refusing to give him credit for anything positive, but there won't be impeachments, investigations, and made up fake news. The news will be bias and facts twisted to meet the democrat narrative, yes, but it won't be fake and they won't impeach him. They didn't even impeach Bush. Only one man generates that level of hatred.

nothing fake?

Holy cow man, you are in la-la land.

The day he announced there was a tsunami of montages about him being"worse than Trump" and an even bigger white supremacist than Trumo ever dreamed of being.

They even put out travel advisories saying its its unsafe for minorities in Florida.....because Ron DeSantis.

You are totally delusional on this.

(06-01-2023 12:51 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 12:30 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 10:57 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 04:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  If Donald Trump was capable of keeping his mouth shut, he would have easily won reelection despite his countless eff ups as president.

If Donald Trump was capable of not overreacting to literally every slight directed his way, he would sweep the 2024 Republican primaries virtually by acclamation.

If Donald Trump was capable of pretending that the interests of our nation were even just equally as important as his own selfish impulses, then there is not a Democrat in contention who could beat him in the general election.

But we all know (even the most die-hard Trumplets) that Donald Trump is incapable of anything more than constant diarrhetic stupidity. It is who he is. The question for each of us is how blind we choose to be to that reality.

If the media treated Trump exactly the same way they treat Biden, Hilary, & Obama (and every other Dem), then none of these issues that you dislike abdout Trump would have ever come about.

They have (in many cases falsely) berated him for 7+ years and you're mad at him?

Trump hasn't and won't ever get a fair shake. If he does happen to become president again, it will be another 4 years of impeachments, investigations, and fake news. While I am sympathetic, that's just the reality and more reason to vote against him.

Its just delusional to think its going to be any different of DeSantis wins.

Keep in mind I am voting for DeSantis, but I am in no way foolish enough to think a DeSantis presidency would not be anther 4 years of impeachments, investigations and a tsunami of fake news and total insanity from all the same people.

The second DeSantis wins, he will be decreed as "worse than Trump" and Trumps white supremacists agenda on steroids and worse than ever.

Disagree... they'll try to make him unpopular by pinning everything negative on him and refusing to give him credit for anything positive, but there won't be impeachments, investigations, and made up fake news. The news will be bias and facts twisted to meet the democrat narrative, yes, but it won't be fake and they won't impeach him. They didn't even impeach Bush. Only one man generates that level of hatred.

Which makes me want to vote for him even more.

Anyone that the DC establishment and fake media hates and is doing something they don't like, I'm all for that.

(06-01-2023 01:12 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Which makes me want to vote for him even more.

Anyone that the DC establishment and fake media hates and is doing something they don't like, I'm all for that.

From my standpoint, oruvoice, I am sad that you don't realize that you are being played by a "DC establishment and fake media" that wants nothing more than Donald Trump to be the Republican nominee in 2024.

(06-01-2023 01:12 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Which makes me want to vote for him even more.

Anyone that the DC establishment and fake media hates and is doing something they don't like, I'm all for that.

there's the never trumpeters and never dems ... the latter easily whips the livin' shite out of the former (if one believes in promoting incentive/growth)

unfortunately, we have a serious spending problem (for most of muh 57.8 yrs) ... I don't see an 'out to recovery' once the boomers and Xers are gonski...

#treadingWasser