USF
Notre Dame
Arizona State
Miami
University of California - Riverside
George Washington

I suspected Miami and Arizona St would get in soon. Didn't know about George Washington or USF being that close. Congrats to johnbragg and the Revolutionaries!

Official Press Release:

https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/press-relea...iversities

This certainly changes the calculus in terms of the Big Ten and Miami as well as Arizona State. I was almost positive the Big Ten would've taken Notre Dame without being AAU but now that's not even an issue.

Watch the Big Ten screw up and invite Miami (Ohio) instead of Miami (Florida).

If the B1G ever gets into Arizona, this definitely solidifies ASU above UA. UA's calling card was always AAU status to neutralize ASU's location, but that's out the window now.

Soooooooo let me ask a question, Does ASU now jump up to number 3 or 4 on the B1G expansion list? I say yes but others might feel differently

(06-01-2023 11:37 AM)BeepBeepJeep Wrote:  Watch the Big Ten screw up and invite Miami (Ohio) instead of Miami (Florida).

Miami, the one in Oxford, not Coral Gables, is an excellent school, too, and worthy of AAU status.

(06-01-2023 11:40 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Soooooooo let me ask a question, Does ASU now jump up to number 3 or 4 on the B1G expansion list? I say yes but others might feel differently

If the B1G ever goes 4-down on the west coast list, I think ASU now jumps Cal at #4. Phoenix is the #10/#11 market while Cal would be doubling up on the Bay Area.

(06-01-2023 11:40 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Soooooooo let me ask a question, Does ASU now jump up to number 3 or 4 on the B1G expansion list? I say yes but others might feel differently

ASU is a top 5 earner in the PAC 12. Arizona is not. So, if they are on anyone's list it has to bump them up.

(06-01-2023 11:40 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Soooooooo let me ask a question, Does ASU now jump up to number 3 or 4 on the B1G expansion list? I say yes but others might feel differently

I think it does move them above Utah and UA. Non zero chance it moves them above Oregon.

(06-01-2023 11:43 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:40 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Soooooooo let me ask a question, Does ASU now jump up to number 3 or 4 on the B1G expansion list? I say yes but others might feel differently

If the B1G ever goes 4-down on the west coast list, I think ASU now jumps Cal at #4. Phoenix is the #10/#11 market while Cal would be doubling up on the Bay Area.

100% agree, I think the additions would be Washington, Oregon, Stanford (If they're willing), and ASU. Should be interesting to see what happens.

(06-01-2023 11:43 AM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:37 AM)BeepBeepJeep Wrote:  Watch the Big Ten screw up and invite Miami (Ohio) instead of Miami (Florida).

Miami, the one in Oxford, not Coral Gables, is an excellent school, too, and worthy of AAU status.

Yeah I'm not knocking it. It's a "Mom, can we have Miami? we have Miami at home" allusion.

Though small potatoes, Arizona State has a hockey program. At one point, there were talks about them being a possible B1G member for hockey only.

(06-01-2023 11:35 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  I suspected Miami and Arizona St would get in soon. Didn't know about George Washington or USF being that close. Congrats to johnbragg and the Revolutionaries!

GW, USF and Notre Dame were all surprises.

Notre Dame certainly had the elite undergrad, but I thought they were still a good ways from making it with the grad rankings.

Miami, ASU and UC-R not surprises.

A lot of schools have been talking about aspiring to achieve AAU membership, but I think this represents the final stage of what has been a gradual refocusing of membership priorities and that very few schools excluded in this current iteration are likely to be included in the near or intermediate future. I think membership is likely to be very stable going forward with fewer call-ups and fewer schools dropped.

(06-01-2023 11:31 AM)BeepBeepJeep Wrote:  USF
Notre Dame
Arizona State
Miami
University of California - Riverside
George Washington

Crap, now I need to reevaluate all those "The B1G wouldn't want Miami b/c Academics" posts that I've recently made...

(06-01-2023 11:35 AM)schmolik Wrote:  Official Press Release:

https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/press-relea...iversities

This certainly changes the calculus in terms of the Big Ten and Miami as well as Arizona State. I was almost positive the Big Ten would've taken Notre Dame without being AAU but now that's not even an issue.

This might explain ASU's reluctance to move to the big 12. They have their sights set on the P2 now. And not just the B1G. We've seen the SEC take a whole bunch of AAU schools recently, and ASU might be an intriguing #21-24 range school for us, too. Miami? They just just got a big boost for both SEC or B1G membership.

I think people undervalue the possibility of the ACC raiding the PAC. Even if revenue neutral, the association with 8 additional AAU members would have value to the university presidents.

UC Riverside to the Big 10 when?

(06-01-2023 11:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:40 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Soooooooo let me ask a question, Does ASU now jump up to number 3 or 4 on the B1G expansion list? I say yes but others might feel differently

ASU is a top 5 earner in the PAC 12. Arizona is not. So, if they are on anyone's list it has to bump them up.

Yep, I've always loved ASU as an addition to the BIG. Better get them before the SEC pounces.

Baseball and Softball would mesh nicely with USCLA and the BIG really would love the additional hockey team.