(09-04-2023 06:56 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 03:24 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 02:09 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 01:34 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 01:24 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  Be very skeptical of Fresno’s win over Purdue, who sucks. And Wyoming’s 2OT win over Tech, who also looks to be overrated.

If the AAC winner finishes with 2 losses or less, NY6 probably stays in the AAC.

Not to be that guy. But beating a dead horse here. Don't sleep on Texas State.

They sure as heck caught us off guard. Don't think they'll win the Sun Belt, but having that P4 scalp is a resume builder.

Once again, it's in Tulane's hands now. But the days of any group of 5 team with 2 wins being the representative is over.

Recent history goes to the programs with P4 scalps. Had App State or Marshall not shot themselves in the foot last year, it could have been either of those last year.

I’ll sleep on Texas State all season long. It’s about strength of schedule. The Sun Belt teams are far inferior to the MW schools who are far inferior to the AAC schools hence why a 2 loss AAC school still gets in over an undefeated Sunbelt school or 1 loss MW school. That’s just how pecking orders work.

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Man...I can't even begin to tell you how off you are on just about that whole post.
1st - The MWC was deemed (by statistics, analytics, etc...), as better than the AAC the past 2 yrs. And yes....that was even with Cin 1 yr and Tulane the next yr being better than everyone. Am not a fan of all that bs but it's out there in cold hard numbers. At best...the AAC could say they are debateably better. Fine.

Now....3 teams that helped that conf get the numbers they got are gone. Replaced by 6 lower rung teams. Some....snakebelly low. How do you expect the AAC to be above or even level to the MWC after they were statistically under them before all this?

2ndly....That SBC is on a roll! They are trending wayyyy up the last 4 yrs. They even had the power to do some poaching. And frankly....if the AAC gets raided again, watch out for some more poaching by them. They are close now,,,if not even with the MWC and AAC, sans Tulane..(who I think is for real & stands alone. Sort of like the last 2 yrs in the G5).

Incorrect
According to Massey Ratings AAC was top nonPower in both 2021 and 2022
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/index.htm

My reading of the Massey Composite is that the MW was the #1 G5 in 2021, the AAC was #1 last year (2022).

(10-27-2023 10:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:56 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 03:24 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 02:09 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 01:34 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Not to be that guy. But beating a dead horse here. Don't sleep on Texas State.

They sure as heck caught us off guard. Don't think they'll win the Sun Belt, but having that P4 scalp is a resume builder.

Once again, it's in Tulane's hands now. But the days of any group of 5 team with 2 wins being the representative is over.

Recent history goes to the programs with P4 scalps. Had App State or Marshall not shot themselves in the foot last year, it could have been either of those last year.

I’ll sleep on Texas State all season long. It’s about strength of schedule. The Sun Belt teams are far inferior to the MW schools who are far inferior to the AAC schools hence why a 2 loss AAC school still gets in over an undefeated Sunbelt school or 1 loss MW school. That’s just how pecking orders work.

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Man...I can't even begin to tell you how off you are on just about that whole post.
1st - The MWC was deemed (by statistics, analytics, etc...), as better than the AAC the past 2 yrs. And yes....that was even with Cin 1 yr and Tulane the next yr being better than everyone. Am not a fan of all that bs but it's out there in cold hard numbers. At best...the AAC could say they are debateably better. Fine.

Now....3 teams that helped that conf get the numbers they got are gone. Replaced by 6 lower rung teams. Some....snakebelly low. How do you expect the AAC to be above or even level to the MWC after they were statistically under them before all this?

2ndly....That SBC is on a roll! They are trending wayyyy up the last 4 yrs. They even had the power to do some poaching. And frankly....if the AAC gets raided again, watch out for some more poaching by them. They are close now,,,if not even with the MWC and AAC, sans Tulane..(who I think is for real & stands alone. Sort of like the last 2 yrs in the G5).

Incorrect
According to Massey Ratings AAC was top nonPower in both 2021 and 2022
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/index.htm

My reading of the Massey Composite is that the MW was the #1 G5 in 2021, the AAC was #1 last year (2022).

Correct:

https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2021-15.htm
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2022-15.htm

I think the CFP poll is released tomorrow. It is the metric that matters.

However, until tomorrow please see below for those interested. People are more than welcome to use their own ranking service.

AF..............21
Liberty........26
Tulane........29
Troy...........33
Fresno St...36

Source: Massey Composite (67 inputs as of this writing)

Also rans: SMU 41, Toledo 42, Memphis 43

(10-27-2023 11:05 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-27-2023 10:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:56 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 03:24 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 02:09 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  I’ll sleep on Texas State all season long. It’s about strength of schedule. The Sun Belt teams are far inferior to the MW schools who are far inferior to the AAC schools hence why a 2 loss AAC school still gets in over an undefeated Sunbelt school or 1 loss MW school. That’s just how pecking orders work.

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Man...I can't even begin to tell you how off you are on just about that whole post.
1st - The MWC was deemed (by statistics, analytics, etc...), as better than the AAC the past 2 yrs. And yes....that was even with Cin 1 yr and Tulane the next yr being better than everyone. Am not a fan of all that bs but it's out there in cold hard numbers. At best...the AAC could say they are debateably better. Fine.

Now....3 teams that helped that conf get the numbers they got are gone. Replaced by 6 lower rung teams. Some....snakebelly low. How do you expect the AAC to be above or even level to the MWC after they were statistically under them before all this?

2ndly....That SBC is on a roll! They are trending wayyyy up the last 4 yrs. They even had the power to do some poaching. And frankly....if the AAC gets raided again, watch out for some more poaching by them. They are close now,,,if not even with the MWC and AAC, sans Tulane..(who I think is for real & stands alone. Sort of like the last 2 yrs in the G5).

Incorrect
According to Massey Ratings AAC was top nonPower in both 2021 and 2022
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/index.htm

My reading of the Massey Composite is that the MW was the #1 G5 in 2021, the AAC was #1 last year (2022).

Correct:

https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2021-15.htm
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2022-15.htm

L.
O.
L.

At the both of you.
Eight week old post, that was corrected within an hour and fifteen minutes, but neither of you can resist the chance to be negative about the American.

LOL

Stay you.

(10-30-2023 07:45 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-27-2023 11:05 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-27-2023 10:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:56 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 03:24 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  _______________________________________________________
Man...I can't even begin to tell you how off you are on just about that whole post.
1st - The MWC was deemed (by statistics, analytics, etc...), as better than the AAC the past 2 yrs. And yes....that was even with Cin 1 yr and Tulane the next yr being better than everyone. Am not a fan of all that bs but it's out there in cold hard numbers. At best...the AAC could say they are debateably better. Fine.

Now....3 teams that helped that conf get the numbers they got are gone. Replaced by 6 lower rung teams. Some....snakebelly low. How do you expect the AAC to be above or even level to the MWC after they were statistically under them before all this?

2ndly....That SBC is on a roll! They are trending wayyyy up the last 4 yrs. They even had the power to do some poaching. And frankly....if the AAC gets raided again, watch out for some more poaching by them. They are close now,,,if not even with the MWC and AAC, sans Tulane..(who I think is for real & stands alone. Sort of like the last 2 yrs in the G5).

Incorrect
According to Massey Ratings AAC was top nonPower in both 2021 and 2022
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/index.htm

My reading of the Massey Composite is that the MW was the #1 G5 in 2021, the AAC was #1 last year (2022).

Correct:

https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2021-15.htm
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2022-15.htm

L.
O.
L.

At the both of you.
Eight week old post, that was corrected within an hour and fifteen minutes, but neither of you can resist the chance to be negative about the American.

LOL

Stay you.

Eh, I now see that you did correct the other poster's claim back then, so rep points for you. Didn't realize it when I made my post the other day.

(10-30-2023 07:45 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-27-2023 11:05 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-27-2023 10:40 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:56 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 03:24 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  _______________________________________________________
Man...I can't even begin to tell you how off you are on just about that whole post.
1st - The MWC was deemed (by statistics, analytics, etc...), as better than the AAC the past 2 yrs. And yes....that was even with Cin 1 yr and Tulane the next yr being better than everyone. Am not a fan of all that bs but it's out there in cold hard numbers. At best...the AAC could say they are debateably better. Fine.

Now....3 teams that helped that conf get the numbers they got are gone. Replaced by 6 lower rung teams. Some....snakebelly low. How do you expect the AAC to be above or even level to the MWC after they were statistically under them before all this?

2ndly....That SBC is on a roll! They are trending wayyyy up the last 4 yrs. They even had the power to do some poaching. And frankly....if the AAC gets raided again, watch out for some more poaching by them. They are close now,,,if not even with the MWC and AAC, sans Tulane..(who I think is for real & stands alone. Sort of like the last 2 yrs in the G5).

Incorrect
According to Massey Ratings AAC was top nonPower in both 2021 and 2022
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/index.htm

My reading of the Massey Composite is that the MW was the #1 G5 in 2021, the AAC was #1 last year (2022).

Correct:

https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2021-15.htm
https://masseyratings.com/cf/arch/compare2022-15.htm

L.
O.
L.

At the both of you.
Eight week old post, that was corrected within an hour and fifteen minutes, but neither of you can resist the chance to be negative about the American.

LOL

Stay you.

My intent is to show the ranking of the AAC in 2021 and 2022. What was it? What is it now?

In the meantime, 7pm eastern time Tuesday, we get the first real insight into the race for the NY6 bowl

An AAC school has earned a NY6 berth for each of the last five completed seasons years and for seven out of nine completed seasons during the NY6's existence.

(10-30-2023 09:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  In the meantime, 7pm eastern time tonight, we get the first real insight into the race for the NY6 bowl

According to this source, the interim rankings will be published on 10/31/23 between 7-8 pm ET.

Could you please share the source of the insight shared tonight?

(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  In the meantime, 7pm eastern time tonight, we get the first real insight into the race for the NY6 bowl

According to this sight, the interim rankings will be published on 10/31/23 between 7-8 pm ET.

Could you please share the source of the insight shared tonight?

Oh, yeah, tomorrow, sorry!

I was looking today already to confirm ESPN. With no 9 to 5, they're all just days ending in "y"
Thanks for catching me

(10-30-2023 10:31 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  In the meantime, 7pm eastern time tonight, we get the first real insight into the race for the NY6 bowl

According to this sight, the interim rankings will be published on 10/31/23 between 7-8 pm ET.

Could you please share the source of the insight shared tonight?

Oh, yeah, tomorrow, sorry!

I was looking today already to confirm ESPN. With no 9 to 5, they're all just days ending in "y"
Thanks for catching me

No worries, thanks for the clarification.

(10-30-2023 10:31 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  In the meantime, 7pm eastern time tonight, we get the first real insight into the race for the NY6 bowl

According to this sight, the interim rankings will be published on 10/31/23 between 7-8 pm ET.

Could you please share the source of the insight shared tonight?

Oh, yeah, tomorrow, sorry!

I was looking today already to confirm ESPN. With no 9 to 5, they're all just days ending in "y"
Thanks for catching me

I know exactly what you mean, and it's such a great problem to have too.

(10-30-2023 10:59 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 10:31 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 10:27 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-30-2023 09:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  In the meantime, 7pm eastern time tonight, we get the first real insight into the race for the NY6 bowl

According to this sight, the interim rankings will be published on 10/31/23 between 7-8 pm ET.

Could you please share the source of the insight shared tonight?

Oh, yeah, tomorrow, sorry!

I was looking today already to confirm ESPN. With no 9 to 5, they're all just days ending in "y"
Thanks for catching me

I know exactly what you mean, and it's such a great problem to have too.

Unfortunately, this was going the other way.
Friday was a half day event then driving seven hours. Saturday was a couple hours on the laptop before even more driving. And Sunday was all day emails and spreadsheets.
Procrastinator's payback is still waiting even without the M-F 9-5.

clt says connect the dots. they are releasing the first rankings during halloween?

I’ll say the top 3 not counting James Madison who isn’t eligible are
1. Air Force
2. Tulane
3. Fresno

But since the CFP will only show top 25, only Air Force and Tulane will show up

(10-30-2023 03:55 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I’ll say the top 3 not counting James Madison who isn’t eligible are
1. Air Force
2. Tulane
3. Fresno

But since the CFP will only show top 25, only Air Force and Tulane will show up

Ditto that. I’m not convinced Fresno (as opposed to Memphis or even SMU) isn’t “third in line” (since in Theory they both could get a shot at Tulane)… but as of today Fresno is probably somewhere around 27 but “leap froggable” by the other two.