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Ankerson actually said "at the count of 3 everybody say reign on" Then he neglects to count.

Is he getting senile?
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(09-23-2023 07:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Ankerson actually said "at the count of 3 everybody say reign on" Then he neglects to count.

Is he getting senile?

Hes terrible. Every other FBS stadium has a superior in game announcer than we do. Hes so dry and just kills the flow of the game and in between timeouts
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(09-23-2023 07:52 PM)ODURallyFox Wrote:  
(09-23-2023 07:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Ankerson actually said "at the count of 3 everybody say reign on" Then he neglects to count.

Is he getting senile?

Hes terrible. Every other FBS stadium has a superior in game announcer than we do. Hes so dry and just kills the flow of the game and in between timeouts

Did y’all catch when he said QB Grant Sheilds. 04-chairshot
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(09-23-2023 08:00 PM)AimHigher Wrote:  
(09-23-2023 07:52 PM)ODURallyFox Wrote:  
(09-23-2023 07:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Ankerson actually said "at the count of 3 everybody say reign on" Then he neglects to count.

Is he getting senile?

Hes terrible. Every other FBS stadium has a superior in game announcer than we do. Hes so dry and just kills the flow of the game and in between timeouts

Did y’all catch when he said QB Grant Sheilds. 04-chairshot

I cringe when he announces any players names. I cringe when he struggles to say "Reign On". I cringe when he announces the "wave" camera. Common theme here....
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Jack was the GM for the Squires... Probably time for him to retire... Just saying...
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(09-23-2023 07:43 PM)AimHigher Wrote:  Jacks gonna go. What’s up with the screen glitching the last two games?

Our in game presentation seems very ghetto and behind the times. Everything from the dj song list to songs being abruptly cut off to screen glitches. I expect higher quality and have seen higher quality at other stadiums and venues. Its like were stuck with a Windows 95 for our presentation delivery.
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(09-24-2023 07:34 AM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Jack was the GM for the Squires... Probably time for him to retire... Just saying...


Jack was also the general manager of the San Antonio Spurs.


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For several years now, the water temperature in the restroom sinks is set on scalding. The number of fans with 3rd degree burns could probably start a class action, not to mention the wasted energy and money involved. The maintenance staff at ODU is really on the ball.
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I think students are showing up much better than the average fans.
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(09-24-2023 02:19 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  I think students are showing up much better than the average fans.

Yes. Much like our student athletes on the football field, our fans only want to give effort when its convenient for them to do so. Our students did a respectable job yesterday. Cant say the same for the average joes sitting amongst the rest of the crowd. Our fanbase should be embarrassed as a whole.
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Its pretty pathetic when our own head coach states that the "Reign On" Flag tradition is poorly executed. See press conference from today. School admin needs to take some notes on building better traditions.
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Nice of ODU to FINALLY send a survey out, midway through the season. Usually, surveys are done afterward, but Ill take it.

Who all has done the survey? I gave them very poor rankings in a lot of areas.

As someone who has been to and experienced places like FSU, UVA, VT, NC State, UNC, Dook, Wake Forest, and Pitt - our stadium lacks in so many ways (and that goes beyond consistent fan support)

I hope I get called and I hope I get placed in a focus group by ODU. Our game experience is very poor overall. And if you think it is great, you have probably lived under a rock your whole life.
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Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation of internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. To that end, Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

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(09-28-2023 11:35 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

04-cheers

And you know how you win? Recruiting. And our recruiting has stunk at the fbs level. And it shouldnt stink because we are in a prime area for recruits. Not a lot of schools have that blessing at their disposal. Overall, we have scheduled very well, getting games with Liberty, ECU, VT, Wake etc. if fans expect much better than what we do now for scheudling, their heads are on backwards. I like our schedules for the most part because we play who we need to play. Also, we need more than just two p5 schools. We need to play the ACC schools, Big 10 schools and SEC schools because they all recruit in our area. We need to recruit against our rivals. Wins will help our recruiting, but we should have no reason to have a 3 win team every year consistently. I do not believe the school admin opens the purse strings up enough for our recruiting and thats a major problem.
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(09-28-2023 11:35 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

04-cheers

I mostly agree with all of this. ODU needs some winning to happen. And it would be great if those victories came over the likes of VT, Wake, UVA, ECU, Liberty etc, but what we need most is the victories (over anyone). I like the plan of 1P5 game per year, 1 FCS game per year (preferably local, but the local teams are pretty good and right now while we are not, and this MUST be a win), and some FBS wins. The SBC schedule is brutal, and we aren't up to the task YET. So until we get our team performing at Marshall, App, JMU levels Id propose an OOC schedule that is easier. Say VT, Campbell, Charlotte & UConn. Or UVA, Towson, FIU and Akron. At least until we get some momentum and are back to beating the likes of JMU and Marshall half the time. The SB schedule is where the biggest challenges, and the biggest draws should be. We are committed to that, so lets schedule in some more likely wins early on to get the crowds excited and a buzz started. Go into conference play 3-1 and hope to win 4 or 5 conference games and a bowl. We set ourselves up for failure with our scheduling. We should have kept Buffalo on the schedule this year and traded LU away for TXAMCC instead. Wake, VT, LU... plus the SB with ASU, MU and JMU, that's a lot for a struggling team to try to tackle (no pun intended). And we need the winning to get back up to full strength where we can reasonably expect to win those games too.
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(09-28-2023 11:35 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation of internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. To that end, Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

04-cheers

Winning cures everything. I agree about that. But when your own school president comes out and said that winning is the least important factor in running a successful athletic department, how do you sell that to the students?
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(09-28-2023 12:14 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 11:35 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation of internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. To that end, Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

04-cheers

Winning cures everything. I agree about that. But when your own school president comes out and said that winning is the least important factor in running a successful athletic department, how do you sell that to the students?

I have heard rumors, but if he actually said that, then we all need to just go home.

As an academic, I am not sure how he can define successful without the concept of winning. Without the concept of commitment to winning as a priority, we cannot get the best recruits, staff, and the best coaches.
Without winning we cannot get the best donations, the best sponsors, or the best alumni support.

The AD then becomes a house of cards.

If I were an ODU coach, or even the Athletic Director himself, I would be actively looking for other employment. If I were a sponsor, I would be reconsidering the ROI.
If I was a non alumni supporter (and we need those desperately) I would be looking for another program to latch on to.

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(09-28-2023 12:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 12:14 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 11:35 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation of internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. To that end, Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

04-cheers

Winning cures everything. I agree about that. But when your own school president comes out and said that winning is the least important factor in running a successful athletic department, how do you sell that to the students?

I have heard rumors, but if he actually said that, then we all need to just go home.

As an academic, I am not sure how he can define successful without the concept of winning. Without the concept of commitment to winning, we cannot get the best recruits, staff, and the best coaches.
Without winning we cannot get the best donations, the best sponsors, or the best alumni support.

The AD then becomes a house of cards.

If I were an ODU coach, or even the Athletic Director himself, I would be actively looking for other employment. If I were a sponsor, I would be reconsidering the ROI.
If I was a non alumni supporter (and we need those desperately) I would be looking for another program to latch on to.

07-coffee3

He said it on the Monarchist podcast interview (which is great, by the way). Although for some context, he said there were 4 factors involved in running a successful AD. Winning was #4. Saying winning was basically gravy if the other 3 factors are met. I don't remember what the other 3 were. Academics, not losing money, something else. Ever since I heard that I pretty much lost hope for either FB or BB to succeed on the court/field any time soon.
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(09-28-2023 12:41 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 12:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 12:14 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 11:35 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation of internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. To that end, Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

04-cheers

Winning cures everything. I agree about that. But when your own school president comes out and said that winning is the least important factor in running a successful athletic department, how do you sell that to the students?

I have heard rumors, but if he actually said that, then we all need to just go home.

As an academic, I am not sure how he can define successful without the concept of winning. Without the concept of commitment to winning, we cannot get the best recruits, staff, and the best coaches.
Without winning we cannot get the best donations, the best sponsors, or the best alumni support.

The AD then becomes a house of cards.

If I were an ODU coach, or even the Athletic Director himself, I would be actively looking for other employment. If I were a sponsor, I would be reconsidering the ROI.
If I was a non alumni supporter (and we need those desperately) I would be looking for another program to latch on to.

07-coffee3

He said it on the Monarchist podcast interview (which is great, by the way). Although for some context, he said there were 4 factors involved in running a successful AD. Winning was #4. Saying winning was basically gravy if the other 3 factors are met. I don't remember what the other 3 were. Academics, not losing money, something else. Ever since I heard that I pretty much lost hope for either FB or BB to succeed on the court/field any time soon.

Yes, our program is clueless to this point on how to obtain a successful and a consistent winner. And that should not be the case in the Sunbelt. We have one of the highest athletic budgets in the conference across the board. We have the nicest facilities in the conference across the board. I firmly believe our recruiting budget is not where it needs to be to compete at the fbs level. And I believe our school is cheap and refuses to open up the purse strings.
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(09-28-2023 12:41 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 12:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 12:14 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(09-28-2023 11:35 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Let's not overthink this.

In general:
College football attendance is continuing to decline. The proliferation of internet television assures that almost every game at the FBS level is available somewhere for minimal financial impact. In 2022 college football attendance was at its lowest since 1981
Winning is the best way to get people back.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ince-1981/

ODU specifically:
Winning is the best strategy. To that end, Bobby Wilder's scheduling strategy was brilliant.
Although someone said that other G5s would kill for our schedule, the casual local fan has little interest in the trichotomy of G5/P5/FCS. They just want to be entertained and be part of the excitement of what they perceive as a winner and/or local interest.
To that end we need to schedule OOC (although not always possible) FCS programs with local interest, ie Hampton, W&M, and Norfolk State, as often as possible.
We only need one P5, and as often as possible, they need to be UVA and VT.
G5 OOC should consist of, Navy, Liberty, ECU, and the other Service Academies as often as possible.
While not always possible, the above generates interest to the casual local fan.

Student participation will always be more problematic in a metropolitan area where there are many other opportunities than a more rural setting where football is the only game in town (see what I did there? 04-rock).

Yes he current stadium has some issues, but as a day 1 season ticket holder, I sat in an old dump of a stadium with porta-potties, very uncomfortable seats, no beer, no overhangs for weather mitigation, no elevators, and a PA announcer that was largely irrelevant because the PA system was so bad that you couldn't understand him anyway.
Yet, it was full almost every game for years, until we stopped winning.

Dennis Dodd is correct, and not just for Arkansas.
Jut win, baby

04-cheers

Winning cures everything. I agree about that. But when your own school president comes out and said that winning is the least important factor in running a successful athletic department, how do you sell that to the students?

I have heard rumors, but if he actually said that, then we all need to just go home.

As an academic, I am not sure how he can define successful without the concept of winning. Without the concept of commitment to winning, we cannot get the best recruits, staff, and the best coaches.
Without winning we cannot get the best donations, the best sponsors, or the best alumni support.

The AD then becomes a house of cards.

If I were an ODU coach, or even the Athletic Director himself, I would be actively looking for other employment. If I were a sponsor, I would be reconsidering the ROI.
If I was a non alumni supporter (and we need those desperately) I would be looking for another program to latch on to.

07-coffee3

He said it on the Monarchist podcast interview (which is great, by the way). Although for some context, he said there were 4 factors involved in running a successful AD. Winning was #4. Saying winning was basically gravy if the other 3 factors are met. I don't remember what the other 3 were. Academics, not losing money, something else. Ever since I heard that I pretty much lost hope for either FB or BB to succeed on the court/field any time soon.

In my mind, the only thing that I would rank above winning, is integrity.
#1 Integrity
#2 Winning
after those, support and financials will take care of themselves.
Academics should be a separate discussion.
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2023 12:49 PM by ODUalum78.)
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