Quote:"...Biden led Netanyahu to understand that he wasn't a pace away from victory, but a pace away from the final destruction of the alliance between Israel and the United States...."
1. Biden has no leverage here.
2. The U.S./Israeli relationship is, indeed, about to change drastically. The Democrats will emerge as an overtly anti-Israeli political party over the next decade or so. The events of Oct. 7 + aftermath made that inevitable.
3. There is nothing Netanyahu or Israel can do or could have done to prevent that. Or, if you prefer, the price of maintaining that alliance (with American Democratic Party) is a price Israel is unwilling to pay. Once Netanyahu is off the political stage, that will become clear. For now he is a useful punching bag for some American politicians.
And the chasm between what is good for corporate interests abroad and what is good for America's presence in this world grows. Offending markets and business partners is now a bigger crime than the violation of what had been the ideals of the nation.
Our foreign policy is no longer reflective of the principles of the country, nor of the mores still held in common among most of our country's families.
When Rockefeller and Morgan and Vanderbilt and the rest of the residents of Jekyll Island's Millionaire's Village did what was in their best interest and not the nation's our young nation grew a pair and put them line. Those laws once suspended for the prosecution of WWII showed their more modern ilk the pathway around anti-trust, a constant threat. Thus, was born the marriage between the military industrial complex and the Federal Reserve. Now with PAC money replacing the contributions of the citizens and corporations granted the same rights as a citizen, the Beast has us by the throat and we are restrained from helping those we know to be besieged and coerced into supporting those whose relationship secures nothing for our people, little for our nation, and does so at the expense of our security.
How long Oh Lord!
(This post was last modified: 04-10-2024 05:14 PM by JRsec.)
Quote:"...Biden led Netanyahu to understand that he wasn't a pace away from victory, but a pace away from the final destruction of the alliance between Israel and the United States...."
1. Biden has no leverage here.
2. The U.S./Israeli relationship is, indeed, about to change drastically. The Democrats will emerge as an overtly anti-Israeli political party over the next decade or so. The events of Oct. 7 + aftermath made that inevitable.
3. There is nothing Netanyahu or Israel can do or could have done to prevent that. Or, if you prefer, the price of maintaining that alliance (with American Democratic Party) is a price Israel is unwilling to pay. Once Netanyahu is off the political stage, that will become clear. For now he is a useful punching bag for some American politicians.
And the chasm between what is good for corporate interests abroad and what is good for America's presence in this world grows. Offending markets and business partners is now a bigger crime than the violation of what had been the ideals of the nation.
Our foreign policy is no longer reflective of the principles of the country, nor of the mores still held in common among most of our country's families.
When Rockefeller and Morgan and Vanderbilt and the rest of the residents of Jekyll Island's Millionaire's Village did what was in their best interest and not the nation's our young nation grew a pair and put them line. Those laws once suspended for the prosecution of WWII showed their more modern ilk the pathway around anti-trust, a constant threat. Thus, was born the marriage between the military industrial complex and the Federal Reserve. Now with PAC money replacing the contributions of the citizens and corporations granted the same rights as a citizen, the Beast has us by the throat and we are restrained from helping those we know to be besieged and coerced into supporting those whose relationship secures nothing for our people, little for our nation, and does so at the expense of our security.
How long Oh Lord!
you hate me now, Ja?! (pointin' it out ... bothers me, too!)
the planets can align as the moon gets in the way of the sun ... unfortunately, it's the latter happens with a greater frequency ... neither mean dick = irony of 'thought'
this is why the boomers = pinnacle = 1 ... it was a simple numbers game/tech in the history of our species...
our gens are truly the most fortunate to exist as we're aware in this version of 'reality' ...
(This post was last modified: 04-10-2024 05:32 PM by stinkfist.)
(10-08-2023 09:36 AM)Todor Wrote: Iran must be the problem. After all, Jews have gotten along perfectly with everyone else they have lived around throughout history.
You can toss in Arabs and Russians with your comment. Both ethnic races are natural born LIARS.
(10-08-2023 12:38 PM)HCJag Wrote: I've never done much digging into the founding of Israel after the war, but it seems like they could have settled on a better location. Somewhere less inhabited maybe.
They have a 3500 year history there. Its their homeland since antiquity and the entire basis of their covenant with God.
The simple fact is no one wanted that desolate dead place until Israel moved in and turned it into an oasis.
As Golda Meir said, Moses wasn't that smart. He picked the only spot in the Middle East without oil!
To be fair Moses did not pick it, God did and promised it to Abraham centuries before Moses was born.
And the actual land God promised does include oil, the Israelites just didn't get all that was promised because of their own sin and chasing after pagan gods.
But the coming Kingdom age will see the fulfillment of those promises. Israel will be a massive nation stretching into Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and other aras and the capitol nation of the whole earth for 1000 years.
(04-10-2024 06:46 PM)olliebaba Wrote: I still think Gog and Magog are Russia and Turkey and if I remember right the invasion came from the north which is where they're at from Israel.
One has to remember that Turkey is a quasi-muslim government as Erdogan has mentioned this a few times and he's no friend of Israel.
Russia, Turkey and Iran already signed an agreement over military actions in Syria on Israels northern boarder. There are already Russia and Iranian bases on that northern border.
At some near-future point, these 3 plus a handful of other northern Africa Islamic nations will and together and invade Israel from the north.
Its the final Holy Land war that end with the 2nd coming and the kicking off of the 1000 year kingdom age of Christ on earth.
(10-08-2023 12:38 PM)HCJag Wrote: I've never done much digging into the founding of Israel after the war, but it seems like they could have settled on a better location. Somewhere less inhabited maybe.
They have a 3500 year history there. Its their homeland since antiquity and the entire basis of their covenant with God.
The simple fact is no one wanted that desolate dead place until Israel moved in and turned it into an oasis.
As Golda Meir said, Moses wasn't that smart. He picked the only spot in the Middle East without oil!
(04-10-2024 06:46 PM)olliebaba Wrote: I still think Gog and Magog are Russia and Turkey and if I remember right the invasion came from the north which is where they're at from Israel.
One has to remember that Turkey is a quasi-muslim government as Erdogan has mentioned this a few times and he's no friend of Israel.
Russia, Turkey and Iran already signed an agreement over military actions in Syria on Israels northern boarder. There are already Russia and Iranian bases on that northern border.
At some near-future point, these 3 plus a handful of other northern Africa Islamic nations will and together and invade Israel from the north.
Its the final Holy Land war that end with the 2nd coming and the kicking off of the 1000 year kingdom age of Christ on earth.
Hundreds of missiles lobbed at Israel and only a few got through. Israeli AF and USAF shot most of them down. What is amazing is that Jordan's AF helped shoot down a fair number. Even they recognize that Iran is terrorist central and the biggest destabilizing force in the region.
All I can do is hope that the situation does not go nuclear. Once that genie is out of the bottle it can't be put back in and the whole world will suffer from it.
Given that our foreign policy is run by children I don't have a lot of hope that things will be OK.
Sleepy Joe and Blinken don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence.
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2024 11:48 AM by MileHighBronco.)
(04-14-2024 11:47 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote: Hundreds of missiles lobbed at Israel and only a few got through. Israeli AF and USAF shot most of them down. What is amazing is that Jordan's AF helped shoot down a fair number. Even they recognize that Iran is terrorist central and the biggest destabilizing force in the region.
All I can do is hope that the situation does not go nuclear. Once that genie is out of the bottle it can't be put back in and the whole world will suffer from it.
Given that our foreign policy is run by children I don't have a lot of hope that things will be OK.
Sleepy Joe and Blinken don't exactly inspire a lot of confidence.
To hit Iran itself requires flying over Jordan which would infuriate a cooperative country, flying over Iraq, irritating the US, flying over Saudi Arabia, irritating to a cooperative country or flying completely around Saudi Arabia, a very long trip.
(This post was last modified: 04-15-2024 12:17 AM by bullet.)
(04-15-2024 12:17 AM)bullet Wrote: Israel likely strikes Iran hard in Syria.
To hit Iran itself requires flying over Jordan which would infuriate a cooperative country, flying over Iraq, irritating the US, flying over Saudi Arabia, irritating to a cooperative country or flying completely around Saudi Arabia, a very long trip.
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Israel - are nukes an option against Iran
