The best run in modern Memphis hoops took place in C-USA 2.0. In the 10 years of C-USA 1.0 Memphis made the tournament 3 times and never advanced past the second round. In the 8 years of C-USA 2.0 Memphis made the tournament 7 of 8 years, with 4 sweet 16's, 3 elite 8's and a championship game appearance. In the 10 years of the AAC Memphis has only made 3 tournaments and never advanced past the first weekend.

Solution:

Olympics to the Big East, football goes Indy.

I'll send your athletic department my consulting bill.

(10-12-2023 09:30 AM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Solution:

Olympics to the Big East, football goes Indy.

I'll send your athletic department my consulting bill.

Get in line sub-contractor.

Assuming Memphis will win the conference title in football and basketball with all the bravado

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(10-12-2023 09:27 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  The best run in modern Memphis hoops took place in C-USA 2.0. In the 10 years of C-USA 1.0 Memphis made the tournament 3 times and never advanced past the second round. In the 8 years of C-USA 2.0 Memphis made the tournament 7 of 8 years, with 4 sweet 16's, 3 elite 8's and a championship game appearance. In the 10 years of the AAC Memphis has only made 3 tournaments and never advanced past the first weekend.

It can be done, but it is very difficult. We had to win tough OOC games and win almost every conference game to obtain a favorable seed. There was no margin for error. A single conference loss to a bad team would have knocked us down at least two seed spots and possibly require winning the conference tourney to earn an NCAA tourney bid.

Presently, the AAC is in better shape than the old CUSA. FAU is the leader and UAB and Tulane look promising and perhaps WSU will step up. However, only WSU and to some extent UAB have the proven fan support and commitment to ride out bad times and return to form. FAU will very likely falter upon losing their coach.

(10-12-2023 09:34 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Assuming Memphis will win the conference title in football and basketball with all the bravado

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Right now, Tulane and FAU are in the pole positions.

The thread topic is not Memphis' chances of winning conference titles, but instead it is "How much of a problem is the new AAC for Memphis? We’re starting to find out".

(10-12-2023 10:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-12-2023 09:34 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Assuming Memphis will win the conference title in football and basketball with all the bravado

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Right now, Tulane and FAU are in the pole positions.

The thread topic is not Memphis' chances of winning conference titles, but instead it is "How much of a problem is the new AAC for Memphis? We’re starting to find out".

Should probably win the titles first before disparaging the conference. If you can't do that then it's a Memphis problem. If the conference is a huge downgrade, you should win it easily right?

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(10-12-2023 10:50 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-12-2023 10:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-12-2023 09:34 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Assuming Memphis will win the conference title in football and basketball with all the bravado

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Right now, Tulane and FAU are in the pole positions.

The thread topic is not Memphis' chances of winning conference titles, but instead it is "How much of a problem is the new AAC for Memphis? We’re starting to find out".

Should probably win the titles first before disparaging the conference. If you can't do that then it's a Memphis problem. If the conference is a huge downgrade, you should win it easily right?

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It is already a Memphis problem. We should expect little sustained help from former CUSA6 members for strength of schedule, attendance, etc. Memphis is on its own.

The only upside to the new reality is it will be easier to win the AAC in FB and BB and in good years have a better opportunity earn CFP and NCAA tourney bids, but it will require recognizing the problems and address with renewed vigor and steadfastness.

(10-11-2023 02:28 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Headline:
How much of a problem is the new AAC for Memphis? We’re starting to find out

Author:
Mark Giannotto of the Commerical Appeal (Memphis)

Highlights:
1. The effects of the AAC departures is "starting to show'

2. Effect 1 - After Tulane, the remaining AAC games are against opponents with 14-20 records.

3. Effect 2 - The basketball Tigers' have a tough OOC schedule because they know only a few AAC games help their NCAA tourney resume.

4. Effect 3 - The former CUSA6 are as bad as originally feared in FB and BB - FAU BB excepted. Last season, seven AAC schools finished in the top half of the FB Power Index. This season only SMU, Memphis, and Tulane qualify. Not a single former CUSA6 school presently have a winning record.

5. Effect 4 - NIL issues.

6. Effect 5 - Expanding west would have been in the best interest of the Tigers; especially with SMU's pending departure.

7. Effect 6 - Tiger fans and boosters are apathetic and weary.

8. Unlike the past six years, the best AAC school is not assured of a berth in the NY6. In other words, an unblemished Tiger record (save Missouri) may not be good enough. The MWC and SBC have not improved - the issue is the AAC has deteriorated. However, the author points out first year transitions can be difficult (cites UCF, Cincy, and Houston).

9. Other than FAU, the present AAC looks a lot like the old CUSA in basketball.

10. The weakened AAC creates a perception which may be difficult to overcome in the eyes of the CFP committee members.

11. The present AAC "makes it harder than ever" to show (in Penny's words) " we (the AAC) can play with … anybody in this country."

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...126466007/

Memphis should stop whining about the circumstances they are in because they did this to themselves. They need to do a deep dive into every decision they made to get them in this predicament. Had they made the right choices they definitely would have been called up....but the powers to be found them to be lacking the necessary attribute to be moved up. The question is will they get left behind in the next round.

(10-12-2023 12:03 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(10-11-2023 02:28 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Headline:
How much of a problem is the new AAC for Memphis? We’re starting to find out

Author:
Mark Giannotto of the Commerical Appeal (Memphis)

Highlights:
1. The effects of the AAC departures is "starting to show'

2. Effect 1 - After Tulane, the remaining AAC games are against opponents with 14-20 records.

3. Effect 2 - The basketball Tigers' have a tough OOC schedule because they know only a few AAC games help their NCAA tourney resume.

4. Effect 3 - The former CUSA6 are as bad as originally feared in FB and BB - FAU BB excepted. Last season, seven AAC schools finished in the top half of the FB Power Index. This season only SMU, Memphis, and Tulane qualify. Not a single former CUSA6 school presently have a winning record.

5. Effect 4 - NIL issues.

6. Effect 5 - Expanding west would have been in the best interest of the Tigers; especially with SMU's pending departure.

7. Effect 6 - Tiger fans and boosters are apathetic and weary.

8. Unlike the past six years, the best AAC school is not assured of a berth in the NY6. In other words, an unblemished Tiger record (save Missouri) may not be good enough. The MWC and SBC have not improved - the issue is the AAC has deteriorated. However, the author points out first year transitions can be difficult (cites UCF, Cincy, and Houston).

9. Other than FAU, the present AAC looks a lot like the old CUSA in basketball.

10. The weakened AAC creates a perception which may be difficult to overcome in the eyes of the CFP committee members.

11. The present AAC "makes it harder than ever" to show (in Penny's words) " we (the AAC) can play with … anybody in this country."

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...126466007/

Memphis should stop whining about the circumstances they are in because they did this to themselves. They need to do a deep dive into every decision they made to get them in this predicament. Had they made the right choices they definitely would have been called up....but the powers to be found them to be lacking the necessary attribute to be moved up. The question is will they get left behind in the next round.

The author is not whining. He writes about the effects and consequences on Memphis concerning the AAC departures and their subsequent replacements.

You are right about Memphis having to solve the problem on its own despite lack of strength of schedule and attendance help from the new AAC. It is a stiff uphill battle, but it must be waged or Memphis will bled relevancy.

(10-12-2023 08:08 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Of the effects of replacing UCF, Cincy, Houston and with the former CUSA6; fan and booster apathy and weariness is the most concerning, IMO. It leads to other effects like NIL and attendance issues.

Tiger fans and boosters must face the reality we have effectively regressed into CUSA and take action nevertheless to improve the program. It is not the time for sunshine patriots.

If you just be bold and just go to C-USA that would be better for the rest of us.

(10-12-2023 09:33 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(10-12-2023 09:30 AM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Solution:

Olympics to the Big East, football goes Indy.

I'll send your athletic department my consulting bill.

Get in line sub-contractor.

What's your address so we can put a contractor's lien on the property?

(10-12-2023 12:20 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(10-12-2023 08:08 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Of the effects of replacing UCF, Cincy, Houston and with the former CUSA6; fan and booster apathy and weariness is the most concerning, IMO. It leads to other effects like NIL and attendance issues.

Tiger fans and boosters must face the reality we have effectively regressed into CUSA and take action nevertheless to improve the program. It is not the time for sunshine patriots.

If you just be bold and just go to C-USA that would be better for the rest of us.

"Regressed into CUSA" means "regressed into the old CUSA of which Memphis was a member". I choose the former description for the sake of brevity. Obviously, Memphis does not want to join a league even worse than the current AAC.

Please explain the financial, exposure, and performance advantages to the AAC from excluding Memphis. Thank you.

(10-11-2023 08:17 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(10-11-2023 08:14 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  the glory of immediately losing to a new conference member...ya, memphis is dominating the conference

Coming from a fan supporting a school that couldn't even get a ticket to the dance? Let's see how UNT does compared to Memphis come March 2024.

yep, north texas didn't make it, glad you noticed, but that doesn't make the statement false.

The secret is, Memphis has never really left CUSA.

Who did you just lose?

Cincinnati = former CUSA 1.0/2.0

Houston = Former CUSA 1.0/2.0

UCF = Former MAC/CUSA 2.0

They have achieved escape velocity, others just stay in orbit.

(10-12-2023 01:49 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(10-11-2023 08:17 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(10-11-2023 08:14 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  the glory of immediately losing to a new conference member...ya, memphis is dominating the conference

Coming from a fan supporting a school that couldn't even get a ticket to the dance? Let's see how UNT does compared to Memphis come March 2024.

yep, north texas didn't make it, glad you noticed, but that doesn't make the statement false.

Funny, thought they were in another conference at that time. You look like a moron when you can't even get the facts straight..

Divisive thread. Why post it on the conference board? Is Memphis even in a position to complain? Football hasn't seen the top 25 in several years, and they play in a half-empty stadium. Basketball can't get past the first round. Ridiculous. Nothing good comes from threads like this.

(10-12-2023 02:15 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Divisive thread. Why post it on the conference board? Is Memphis even in a position to complain? Football hasn't seen the top 25 in several years, and they play in a half-empty stadium. Basketball can't get past the first round. Ridiculous. Nothing good comes from threads like this.

Another stupid take. Second round year before last with a green coach showing an upward trajectory. Your school couldn't even beat UConn. It isn't Memphis dragging the conference down. Fix your lack relevance before you cast stones.

(10-12-2023 02:15 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Divisive thread. Why post it on the conference board? Is Memphis even in a position to complain? Football hasn't seen the top 25 in several years, and they play in a half-empty stadium. Basketball can't get past the first round. Ridiculous. Nothing good comes from threads like this.

(10-12-2023 02:15 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Divisive thread. Why post it on the conference board? Is Memphis even in a position to complain? Football hasn't seen the top 25 in several years, and they play in a half-empty stadium. Basketball can't get past the first round. Ridiculous. Nothing good comes from threads like this.

It is relevant to AAC Forum because Memphis is part of the AAC and the performance of the conference affects all members and realization of goals related to the top G-5 and CFP representation.

If you find unpleasant facts and discussion about a media article divisive, it would be wise to avoid threads of this type and/or place me on ignore.

Meanwhile, posters wish to show Memphis the door out of pure pique without stating the ramifications . Who exactly is divisive?