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(01-14-2024 07:03 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 08:45 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Unfortunately I watched the game, guess there is still some hope that I’ll see something good happen. I also understand it’s easy to second guess things after another loss but there is something that just drives me crazy . If we are going to continue to play a small lineup and we are playing a bigger team that has a tendency to turn the ball over why can’t we throw full court pressure on them and really speed them up? Jones teams have never liked to change up much on defense but it sure does look like this was a team that that we could forced into a heap of turnovers. Even the announcers were expecting it before we finally tried it with about 1:20 left in the game and forced a TO. We certainly have the depth at guard .

And if we are not going to do that, why not try playing Pounds and Odiahi together for a couple of sets? If somebody says we are not quick enough to play them together I don’t buy that because watching Pounds he looks as quick to me as any big forward that CC had on the floor. I also don’t think it could hardly hurt our offense because Wade gives us nothing on that end of the floor other than a few passes from the high post. Odiahi may not be the answer in the middle but at least he gives us some size and appears to be pretty athletic. His upside has got to be a lot more than Wade’s and this team is going nowhere regardless of who plays. Pounds looks athletic enough to play the floor and could maybe hit a few shots facing the basket. He is not a low post threat.

I keep watching this team and remembering what a college coach told me this summer when I asked him what he thought the problem was with ODU last season and he said that Jones team was the easiest team in the conference to prepare for. This team is not going to win much but it sure seems we let one get away tonight. If we tried something different like full court pressure I guess we might lose. Lol

Completely agree. With our total lack of being able to play defense in the half court we should definitely press. Hell, it might actually get the guys to play really hard on defense. Our only chance to stop anyone is to turn them over. I say all of this and I am usually totally against pressing in basketball, but why the hell not? We have to remember that this would take some coaching, and strategizing which this staff can’t accomplish.

You guys are totally wrong with these wonderful suggestions. It’ is obvious you have been around the block and have seen some ball played though.

BUT.

No, you are wrong, I read the real reason on the FB basketball page. It’s because the coach is out!!! Yes, I actually read that this morning!

Carry on Monarch fans.

(01-14-2024 07:14 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:03 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 08:45 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Unfortunately I watched the game, guess there is still some hope that I’ll see something good happen. I also understand it’s easy to second guess things after another loss but there is something that just drives me crazy . If we are going to continue to play a small lineup and we are playing a bigger team that has a tendency to turn the ball over why can’t we throw full court pressure on them and really speed them up? Jones teams have never liked to change up much on defense but it sure does look like this was a team that that we could forced into a heap of turnovers. Even the announcers were expecting it before we finally tried it with about 1:20 left in the game and forced a TO. We certainly have the depth at guard .

And if we are not going to do that, why not try playing Pounds and Odiahi together for a couple of sets? If somebody says we are not quick enough to play them together I don’t buy that because watching Pounds he looks as quick to me as any big forward that CC had on the floor. I also don’t think it could hardly hurt our offense because Wade gives us nothing on that end of the floor other than a few passes from the high post. Odiahi may not be the answer in the middle but at least he gives us some size and appears to be pretty athletic. His upside has got to be a lot more than Wade’s and this team is going nowhere regardless of who plays. Pounds looks athletic enough to play the floor and could maybe hit a few shots facing the basket. He is not a low post threat.

I keep watching this team and remembering what a college coach told me this summer when I asked him what he thought the problem was with ODU last season and he said that Jones team was the easiest team in the conference to prepare for. This team is not going to win much but it sure seems we let one get away tonight. If we tried something different like full court pressure I guess we might lose. Lol

Completely agree. With our total lack of being able to play defense in the half court we should definitely press. Hell, it might actually get the guys to play really hard on defense. Our only chance to stop anyone is to turn them over. I say all of this and I am usually totally against pressing in basketball, but why the hell not? We have to remember that this would take some coaching, and strategizing which this staff can’t accomplish.

You guys are totally wrong with these wonderful suggestions. It’ is obvious you have been around the block and have seen some ball played though.

BUT.

No, you are wrong, I read the real reason on the FB basketball page. It’s because the coach is out!!! Yes, I actually read that this morning!

Carry on Monarch fans.

That and we got rid of Dericko Williams.

(01-14-2024 07:14 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:03 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 08:45 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Unfortunately I watched the game, guess there is still some hope that I’ll see something good happen. I also understand it’s easy to second guess things after another loss but there is something that just drives me crazy . If we are going to continue to play a small lineup and we are playing a bigger team that has a tendency to turn the ball over why can’t we throw full court pressure on them and really speed them up? Jones teams have never liked to change up much on defense but it sure does look like this was a team that that we could forced into a heap of turnovers. Even the announcers were expecting it before we finally tried it with about 1:20 left in the game and forced a TO. We certainly have the depth at guard .

And if we are not going to do that, why not try playing Pounds and Odiahi together for a couple of sets? If somebody says we are not quick enough to play them together I don’t buy that because watching Pounds he looks as quick to me as any big forward that CC had on the floor. I also don’t think it could hardly hurt our offense because Wade gives us nothing on that end of the floor other than a few passes from the high post. Odiahi may not be the answer in the middle but at least he gives us some size and appears to be pretty athletic. His upside has got to be a lot more than Wade’s and this team is going nowhere regardless of who plays. Pounds looks athletic enough to play the floor and could maybe hit a few shots facing the basket. He is not a low post threat.

I keep watching this team and remembering what a college coach told me this summer when I asked him what he thought the problem was with ODU last season and he said that Jones team was the easiest team in the conference to prepare for. This team is not going to win much but it sure seems we let one get away tonight. If we tried something different like full court pressure I guess we might lose. Lol

Completely agree. With our total lack of being able to play defense in the half court we should definitely press. Hell, it might actually get the guys to play really hard on defense. Our only chance to stop anyone is to turn them over. I say all of this and I am usually totally against pressing in basketball, but why the hell not? We have to remember that this would take some coaching, and strategizing which this staff can’t accomplish.

You guys are totally wrong with these wonderful suggestions. It’ is obvious you have been around the block and have seen some ball played though.

BUT.

No, you are wrong, I read the real reason on the FB basketball page. It’s because the coach is out!!! Yes, I actually read that this morning!

Carry on Monarch fans.

You are so right Mac, I should have thought of that. We were sooo good before Jones went out. It remember a stunning win over Va Wesleyan and that barn burner 1 point win over in state powers Radford. Thanks for setting us straight

Well, you can't discount that it's had some effect, but the level of suck is so bad it doesn't matter much.

(01-14-2024 09:17 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  Well, you can't discount that it's had some effect, but the level of suck is so bad it doesn't matter much.

We sucked well before JJ had a heart attack. We’ve been bad for years now. JJ hasn’t put together a great team since the year after his one miracle conference championship. I suspect that’s for two reasons. 1. the game has passed him by, and 2. an understandable distraction due to his health. But the bottom line is he has overseen and created this crap show along with Wood and the other top brass. He was a decent coach at one time. But that time is long, long gone.

Recap on yesterday’s game:

https://odumonarchists.com/2024/01/14/la...tal-79-75/


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Just nine spots ahead of the 5-25 team. This is going to be a special season.

(01-14-2024 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  Just nine spots ahead of the 5-25 team. This is going to be a special season.

I read we now have a four game home stand. How do we stack up against those four please? I mean I know they are Sunbelt teams so not all that great but I’d figure if they are gonna win any more, it’s probably during this stretch.

(01-14-2024 09:41 AM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  Recap on yesterday’s game:

https://odumonarchists.com/2024/01/14/la...tal-79-75/


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This team is not improving as the recap implies. They just lost to a 4 win team. There is zero chance the team in it's current state would beat Radford or Drexel. They have moments where they look decent, but as a whole, they are just terrible and the results show it

(01-14-2024 11:07 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 09:41 AM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  Recap on yesterday’s game:

https://odumonarchists.com/2024/01/14/la...tal-79-75/


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This team is not improving as the recap implies. They just lost to a 4 win team. There is zero chance the team in it's current state would beat Radford or Drexel. They have moments where they look decent, but as a whole, they are just terrible and the results show it

My friend, it’s all relative. They only blew a 12 point lead this game. Isn’t that better than losing a 20 point lead? See, that’s improvement right there!

(01-14-2024 11:12 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 11:07 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 09:41 AM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  Recap on yesterday’s game:

https://odumonarchists.com/2024/01/14/la...tal-79-75/


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This team is not improving as the recap implies. They just lost to a 4 win team. There is zero chance the team in it's current state would beat Radford or Drexel. They have moments where they look decent, but as a whole, they are just terrible and the results show it

My friend, it’s all relative. They only blew a 12 point lead this game. Isn’t that better than losing a 20 point lead? See, that’s improvement right there!

Lol

(01-14-2024 11:04 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  Just nine spots ahead of the 5-25 team. This is going to be a special season.

I read we now have a four game home stand. How do we stack up against those four please? I mean I know they are Sunbelt teams so not all that great but I’d figure if they are gonna win any more, it’s probably during this stretch.

We might take ULM at home. But even thar isn't a given.

(01-14-2024 09:41 AM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  Recap on yesterday’s game:

https://odumonarchists.com/2024/01/14/la...tal-79-75/


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Write up says we were 8-24. Stats say we were 8-34

8-24 is 30%. Not great but livable. 8-34, terrible.

(01-14-2024 08:15 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:14 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:03 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 08:45 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Unfortunately I watched the game, guess there is still some hope that I’ll see something good happen. I also understand it’s easy to second guess things after another loss but there is something that just drives me crazy . If we are going to continue to play a small lineup and we are playing a bigger team that has a tendency to turn the ball over why can’t we throw full court pressure on them and really speed them up? Jones teams have never liked to change up much on defense but it sure does look like this was a team that that we could forced into a heap of turnovers. Even the announcers were expecting it before we finally tried it with about 1:20 left in the game and forced a TO. We certainly have the depth at guard .

And if we are not going to do that, why not try playing Pounds and Odiahi together for a couple of sets? If somebody says we are not quick enough to play them together I don’t buy that because watching Pounds he looks as quick to me as any big forward that CC had on the floor. I also don’t think it could hardly hurt our offense because Wade gives us nothing on that end of the floor other than a few passes from the high post. Odiahi may not be the answer in the middle but at least he gives us some size and appears to be pretty athletic. His upside has got to be a lot more than Wade’s and this team is going nowhere regardless of who plays. Pounds looks athletic enough to play the floor and could maybe hit a few shots facing the basket. He is not a low post threat.

I keep watching this team and remembering what a college coach told me this summer when I asked him what he thought the problem was with ODU last season and he said that Jones team was the easiest team in the conference to prepare for. This team is not going to win much but it sure seems we let one get away tonight. If we tried something different like full court pressure I guess we might lose. Lol

Completely agree. With our total lack of being able to play defense in the half court we should definitely press. Hell, it might actually get the guys to play really hard on defense. Our only chance to stop anyone is to turn them over. I say all of this and I am usually totally against pressing in basketball, but why the hell not? We have to remember that this would take some coaching, and strategizing which this staff can’t accomplish.

You guys are totally wrong with these wonderful suggestions. It’ is obvious you have been around the block and have seen some ball played though.

BUT.

No, you are wrong, I read the real reason on the FB basketball page. It’s because the coach is out!!! Yes, I actually read that this morning!

Carry on Monarch fans.

That and we got rid of Dericko Williams.

And it all comes down to 3 days in March and I saw one that said the team is poised for a breakthrough. I know they try to stay positive over there but its a little too much.

(01-14-2024 01:25 PM)odubsu Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 08:15 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:14 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:03 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 08:45 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Unfortunately I watched the game, guess there is still some hope that I’ll see something good happen. I also understand it’s easy to second guess things after another loss but there is something that just drives me crazy . If we are going to continue to play a small lineup and we are playing a bigger team that has a tendency to turn the ball over why can’t we throw full court pressure on them and really speed them up? Jones teams have never liked to change up much on defense but it sure does look like this was a team that that we could forced into a heap of turnovers. Even the announcers were expecting it before we finally tried it with about 1:20 left in the game and forced a TO. We certainly have the depth at guard .

And if we are not going to do that, why not try playing Pounds and Odiahi together for a couple of sets? If somebody says we are not quick enough to play them together I don’t buy that because watching Pounds he looks as quick to me as any big forward that CC had on the floor. I also don’t think it could hardly hurt our offense because Wade gives us nothing on that end of the floor other than a few passes from the high post. Odiahi may not be the answer in the middle but at least he gives us some size and appears to be pretty athletic. His upside has got to be a lot more than Wade’s and this team is going nowhere regardless of who plays. Pounds looks athletic enough to play the floor and could maybe hit a few shots facing the basket. He is not a low post threat.

I keep watching this team and remembering what a college coach told me this summer when I asked him what he thought the problem was with ODU last season and he said that Jones team was the easiest team in the conference to prepare for. This team is not going to win much but it sure seems we let one get away tonight. If we tried something different like full court pressure I guess we might lose. Lol

Completely agree. With our total lack of being able to play defense in the half court we should definitely press. Hell, it might actually get the guys to play really hard on defense. Our only chance to stop anyone is to turn them over. I say all of this and I am usually totally against pressing in basketball, but why the hell not? We have to remember that this would take some coaching, and strategizing which this staff can’t accomplish.

You guys are totally wrong with these wonderful suggestions. It’ is obvious you have been around the block and have seen some ball played though.

BUT.

No, you are wrong, I read the real reason on the FB basketball page. It’s because the coach is out!!! Yes, I actually read that this morning!

Carry on Monarch fans.

That and we got rid of Dericko Williams.

And it all comes down to 3 days in March and I saw one that said the team is poised for a breakthrough. I know they try to stay positive over there but its a little too much.

4 days for us.

Like I said over there, this team isn't winning 4 conference games in January and February combined, let alone March.

(01-14-2024 01:28 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 01:25 PM)odubsu Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 08:15 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:14 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 07:03 AM)757ODU Wrote:  Completely agree. With our total lack of being able to play defense in the half court we should definitely press. Hell, it might actually get the guys to play really hard on defense. Our only chance to stop anyone is to turn them over. I say all of this and I am usually totally against pressing in basketball, but why the hell not? We have to remember that this would take some coaching, and strategizing which this staff can’t accomplish.

You guys are totally wrong with these wonderful suggestions. It’ is obvious you have been around the block and have seen some ball played though.

BUT.

No, you are wrong, I read the real reason on the FB basketball page. It’s because the coach is out!!! Yes, I actually read that this morning!

Carry on Monarch fans.

That and we got rid of Dericko Williams.

And it all comes down to 3 days in March and I saw one that said the team is poised for a breakthrough. I know they try to stay positive over there but its a little too much.

4 days for us.

Like I said over there, this team isn't winning 4 conference games in January and February combined, let alone March.

They may not win 4 games the rest of the year.

(01-14-2024 11:04 AM)mac Wrote:  

(01-14-2024 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  Just nine spots ahead of the 5-25 team. This is going to be a special season.

I read we now have a four game home stand. How do we stack up against those four please? I mean I know they are Sunbelt teams so not all that great but I’d figure if they are gonna win any more, it’s probably during this stretch.

Well, if you go by kenpom we should go 2-2, but with this team it is likely that we go 1-3 or 0-4. Hope not.