(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Was that the cops home? What did she do to justify lethal force? If the woman had been black and the cop white are you stupid enough to think the reactions would be same?

(02-13-2024 04:52 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Was that the cops home? What did she do to justify lethal force? If the woman had been black and the cop white are you stupid enough to think the reactions would be same?

Case by case…

Quote:The investigation further determined that Ms. Babbitt was among a mob of people that entered the Capitol building and gained access to a hallway outside “Speaker’s Lobby,” which leads to the Chamber of the U.S. House of Representatives. At the time, the USCP was evacuating Members from the Chamber, which the mob was trying to enter from multiple doorways. USCP officers used furniture to barricade a set of glass doors separating the hallway and Speaker’s Lobby to try and stop the mob from entering the Speaker’s Lobby and the Chamber, and three officers positioned themselves between the doors and the mob. Members of the mob attempted to break through the doors by striking them and breaking the glass with their hands, flagpoles, helmets, and other objects. Eventually, the three USCP officers positioned outside the doors were forced to evacuate. As members of the mob continued to strike the glass doors, Ms. Babbitt attempted to climb through one of the doors where glass was broken out. An officer inside the Speaker’s Lobby fired one round from his service pistol, striking Ms. Babbitt in the left shoulder, causing her to fall back from the doorway and onto the floor. A USCP emergency response team, which had begun making its way into the hallway to try and subdue the mob, administered aid to Ms. Babbitt, who was transported to Washington Hospital Center, where she succumbed to her injuries.

She FAFO.

(02-13-2024 05:07 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:52 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Was that the cops home? What did she do to justify lethal force? If the woman had been black and the cop white are you stupid enough to think the reactions would be same?

Case by case…

Quote:The investigation further determined that Ms. Babbitt was among a mob of people that entered the Capitol building and gained access to a hallway outside “Speaker’s Lobby,” which leads to the Chamber of the U.S. House of Representatives. At the time, the USCP was evacuating Members from the Chamber, which the mob was trying to enter from multiple doorways. USCP officers used furniture to barricade a set of glass doors separating the hallway and Speaker’s Lobby to try and stop the mob from entering the Speaker’s Lobby and the Chamber, and three officers positioned themselves between the doors and the mob. Members of the mob attempted to break through the doors by striking them and breaking the glass with their hands, flagpoles, helmets, and other objects. Eventually, the three USCP officers positioned outside the doors were forced to evacuate. As members of the mob continued to strike the glass doors, Ms. Babbitt attempted to climb through one of the doors where glass was broken out. An officer inside the Speaker’s Lobby fired one round from his service pistol, striking Ms. Babbitt in the left shoulder, causing her to fall back from the doorway and onto the floor. A USCP emergency response team, which had begun making its way into the hallway to try and subdue the mob, administered aid to Ms. Babbitt, who was transported to Washington Hospital Center, where she succumbed to her injuries.

She FAFO.

I dont need a report when I've seen the video. Also, why did Byrd lie in his call for backup?

Byrd is one man who will sh*t his pants and flee the country when Trump becomes president again.

So who was that guy shooting at ??

Were AOC and Nancy in a hot air balloon up there ??

The simple litmus test for weapons on J6 is if they have been arrested or not and there’s proof if they have.

Former WV lawmaker Derrick Evans, who is running for the House from WV, spent time in a federal prison for walking in a door a police officer opened, posted a video on his campaign site of a guy climbing to the top of a scaffolding on J6, firing 2 shots into the air and climbing down.

The guy has never been prosecuted. (Another Ray Epps?)

No one can with any certainty prove those in possession of weapons on J6 were Trump supporters, government agents, BLM or Antifa activists.

When our government can’t / won’t report how many undercover assets they had in the Capital on January 6, no one can be sure of anything.

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Right back to erecting dumb ass strawmen. There is no comparison, just stop.

So this must be the day's talking point. Ignorant people fall for this type propaganda, rational people understand that it's propaganda.

(02-13-2024 04:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 01:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:Despite repeated false claims from conservative media figures that the mob that stormed the Capitol was unarmed, a multitude of defendants were armed with deadly or dangerous weapons, including several who carried firearms, as the Justice Department has proven in court. Among Jan. 6 rioters who were proven to have carried firearms during the Capitol attack are Christopher Alberts, who was sentenced to seven years in prison; Mark Mazza, who carried two guns and was sentenced to five years in federal prison; and Guy Reffitt, who was sentenced to seven years in federal prison after he became the first Jan. 6 defendant to go to trial.

New Jan. 6 footage appears to show rioter firing a gun in the air during Capitol attack

And yet the only time a weapon was used on that day was when a massive Capitol Police officer murdered....

This is D E M O N S T R A B L Y false.

First, it wasn't a ******* murder.

Second, there's more weapons than just guns.

You know this. Drop the theatrics. It's embarrassing.

lol----please---this from the same moronic people who have been claiming for years that we narrowly avoided this geriatric crowd succeeding in an "attempt to overthrow the government"---oh---and that 6 officers were killed during the "insurrection"---talk about embarrassing theatrics. Just stop. Nobody believes that silliness anymore---not even the trained DNC anchor puppets on CNN.

(02-13-2024 06:53 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The simple litmus test for weapons on J6 is if they have been arrested or not and there’s proof if they have.

Former WV lawmaker Derrick Evans, who is running for the House from WV, spent time in a federal prison for walking in a door a police officer opened, posted a video on his campaign site of a guy climbing to the top of a scaffolding on J6, firing 2 shots into the air and climbing down.

The guy has never been prosecuted. (Another Ray Epps?)

No one can with any certainty prove those in possession of weapons on J6 were Trump supporters, government agents, BLM or Antifa activists.

When our government can’t / won’t report how many undercover assets they had in the Capital on January 6, no one can be sure of anything.

I read the article about the guy on the scaffolding. It was noted that after he fired the two shots, that's when the CP started firing into the crowd with the smoke bombs or what ever it was they were firing.

When I saw that video of that guy shooting his gun it seemed to me that it looked like a starters pistol. It even sounded like one. I presume that it was as I also presume that FIB wouldn't shoot a real pistol as that would endanger the public because any bullet going up has to come down.

(02-13-2024 07:38 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 06:53 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The simple litmus test for weapons on J6 is if they have been arrested or not and there’s proof if they have.

Former WV lawmaker Derrick Evans, who is running for the House from WV, spent time in a federal prison for walking in a door a police officer opened, posted a video on his campaign site of a guy climbing to the top of a scaffolding on J6, firing 2 shots into the air and climbing down.

The guy has never been prosecuted. (Another Ray Epps?)

No one can with any certainty prove those in possession of weapons on J6 were Trump supporters, government agents, BLM or Antifa activists.

When our government can’t / won’t report how many undercover assets they had in the Capital on January 6, no one can be sure of anything.

I read the article about the guy on the scaffolding. It was noted that after he fired the two shots, that's when the CP started firing into the crowd with the smoke bombs or what ever it was they were firing.

A signal perhaps?

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Actually---the answer to that question is probably more often "no" than it is "yes". Its one of those where its important to know what state you are in. That said, this was not a "home"--its a public building. With respect to homeowners, in most states homeowners are not allowed to shoot at intruders in thier own home unless all available avenues of escape are blocked and the homeowner fears severe bodily harm to himself or another person. If your in Texas, its the other way around where the answer is probably "yes" more often than "no" (especially at night---when its pretty much open season on intruders).

(02-13-2024 07:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Actually---the answer to that question is probably more often "no" than it is "yes". Its one of those where its important to know what state you are in. That said, this was not a "home"--its a public building. With respect to homeowners, in most states homeowners are not allowed to shoot at intruders in thier own home unless all available avenues of escape are blocked and the homeowner fears severe bodily harm to himself or another person. If your in Texas, its the other way around where the answer is probably "yes" more often than "no" (especially at night---when its pretty much open season on intruders).

Well the powers that be ruled it a legal shooting.

Curious though, looking at the videos. If you were one of those cops at the door can you honestly say you would not have feared for your life?

(02-13-2024 07:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Actually---the answer to that question is probably more often "no" than it is "yes". Its one of those where its important to know what state you are in. That said, this was not a "home"--its a public building. With respect to homeowners, in most states homeowners are not allowed to shoot at intruders in thier own home unless all available avenues of escape are blocked and the homeowner fears severe bodily harm to himself or another person. If your in Texas, its the other way around where the answer is probably "yes" more often than "no" (especially at night---when its pretty much open season on intruders).

Well the powers that be ruled it a legal shooting.

Curious though, looking at the videos. If you were one of those cops at the door can you honestly say you would not have feared for your life?

Yes I can.

Grandmas that never entered the Capitol have been hunted down and arrested, but the guy, the only guy in the crowd, that fired a gun, doing so on film, has not been tracked down and charged? Does that strike you as odd?

(02-13-2024 07:52 PM)banker Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Actually---the answer to that question is probably more often "no" than it is "yes". Its one of those where its important to know what state you are in. That said, this was not a "home"--its a public building. With respect to homeowners, in most states homeowners are not allowed to shoot at intruders in thier own home unless all available avenues of escape are blocked and the homeowner fears severe bodily harm to himself or another person. If your in Texas, its the other way around where the answer is probably "yes" more often than "no" (especially at night---when its pretty much open season on intruders).

Well the powers that be ruled it a legal shooting.

Curious though, looking at the videos. If you were one of those cops at the door can you honestly say you would not have feared for your life?

Yes I can.

Grandmas that never entered the Capitol have been hunted down and arrested, but the guy, the only guy in the crowd, that fired a gun, doing so on film, has not been tracked down and charged? Does that strike you as odd?

You mean John Emanuel Banuelos?

Arrested after a fatal stabbing, a Utah man told police he brought a gun to Capitol riot
“I was in the D.C. riots. You can look me up, OK?” John Emanuel Banuelos told police after he was arrested last July, according to newly obtained records.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic...-rcna16351


They are still looking for people.

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

You cannot be serious. How many people climbed through those windows that day? Did they shoot all of them? Why not?

(02-13-2024 07:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 07:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 04:42 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-13-2024 12:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  So, three out of how many? Thousands, or tens of thousands?

Nice broad brush there, commie



Now, how about comparing that to the rioting after the St. Floyd incident.

Wonder how many shots were fired? If this was a violent insurrection then one would think more shots were fired than just the one cop shooting an unarmed woman.

Are home owners not allowed to shoot intruders? She was crawling through a broken window. Her and the people with her were not there for a tea party. No it was a different kind of tea party to these buffoons.

Actually---the answer to that question is probably more often "no" than it is "yes". Its one of those where its important to know what state you are in. That said, this was not a "home"--its a public building. With respect to homeowners, in most states homeowners are not allowed to shoot at intruders in thier own home unless all available avenues of escape are blocked and the homeowner fears severe bodily harm to himself or another person. If your in Texas, its the other way around where the answer is probably "yes" more often than "no" (especially at night---when its pretty much open season on intruders).

Well the powers that be ruled it a legal shooting.

Curious though, looking at the videos. If you were one of those cops at the door can you honestly say you would not have feared for your life?

Yes. I can say I'd have had zero fear. You need to watch the long version of the video. There are literally half a dozen Capital Police in full body armor armed with automatic assault rifles standing to the right side of the door just out of frame. You see them when they come to Babbit's aid. If Babbitt was a threat she would have been easily handled by that group of heavily armed officers. Instead, these heavily armed officers who could see everything she was doing simply stood by and monitored the conduct of this very small group of people (maybe a dozen total) who were standing outside that door with Babbit. All that big dude had to do is give that little 100 pound girl a good shove right back out the window. Killing her was not necessary. Personally, I think the hate officer Bryd showed toward Trump supporters on his Facebook page indicates he kinda wanted to kill a Trump supporter and Babbit was the first chance he had to kill one---so he took the shot.

(02-13-2024 07:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Actually---the answer to that question is probably more often "no" than it is "yes". Its one of those where its important to know what state you are in. That said, this was not a "home"--its a public building. With respect to homeowners, in most states homeowners are not allowed to shoot at intruders in thier own home unless all available avenues of escape are blocked and the homeowner fears severe bodily harm to himself or another person. If your in Texas, its the other way around where the answer is probably "yes" more often than "no" (especially at night---when its pretty much open season on intruders).

I can tell you for a fact the answer is I can shoot you dead if you're in my home, period, in Tennessee or Mississippi. Also Oklahoma and Texas and probably most Southern type states. It's called "Castle Doctrine" and you have NO obligation to attempt escape.

The fact is no protesters shot at anyone.

Not one

What kind of insurrection has armed participants that aren't shooting?

A protest does. It was never an insurrection.