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(03-05-2024 10:59 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 09:55 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 04:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

If Trump is elected our democracy as we have known it will die.

I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Create anti-Trump sentiment?

I love how believing an insurrectionist shouldn't be President is drumming up anti-Trump sentiment in your eyes.

You look past all the illegal & immoral acts he has committed and point to things Biden has done as being worse. That's what a MAGA does.

The insurrectionist that Jack Smith didn't charge with insurrection. The damage that the Biden border policies have caused and their impact will be ongoing. The damage will be far greater to the US than Jan.6th.

Our border has been an issue under George W Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, & Joe Biden. Whenever it's a Dem in office it becomes the most important issue & all the President's fault.

Any reason why your party won't pass any bipartisan legislation on the border if they're so concerned about it?

Yes, Trump is an insurrectionist. Since, you're giving credence to Jack Smith, does that mean you agree with the rest of his charges?

(03-05-2024 03:19 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 10:59 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 09:55 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 04:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  If Trump is elected our democracy as we have known it will die.

I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Create anti-Trump sentiment?

I love how believing an insurrectionist shouldn't be President is drumming up anti-Trump sentiment in your eyes.

You look past all the illegal & immoral acts he has committed and point to things Biden has done as being worse. That's what a MAGA does.

The insurrectionist that Jack Smith didn't charge with insurrection. The damage that the Biden border policies have caused and their impact will be ongoing. The damage will be far greater to the US than Jan.6th.

Our border has been an issue under George W Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, & Joe Biden. Whenever it's a Dem in office it becomes the most important issue & all the President's fault.

Any reason why your party won't pass any bipartisan legislation on the border if they're so concerned about it?

Yes, Trump is an insurrectionist. Since, you're giving credence to Jack Smith, does that mean you agree with the rest of his charges?

The deficit is another issue that never matters unless there's a democrat in the White House.

(03-05-2024 11:06 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 09:55 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 04:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

If Trump is elected our democracy as we have known it will die.

I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Create anti-Trump sentiment?

I love how believing an insurrectionist shouldn't be President is drumming up anti-Trump sentiment in your eyes.

You look past all the illegal & immoral acts he has committed and point to things Biden has done as being worse. That's what a MAGA does.

Where have I done any of that??

I rarely talk policy or person, I’m talking political science, please play fair here.

How can you have a discussion about an election with Donald Trump involved and not talk person?

You do it because you want everybody to ignore all of the unlawful and unethical behavior he has been involved in. It normalizes the bad behavior that this country should never allow.

Trying to have a traditional political science debate while Donald Trump is still involved is impossible & I'll continue to call people out for allowing this traitor to be treated like a normal politician until he's gone. If you vote for him, you are supporting the MAGA movement and are a MAGA.

(03-05-2024 10:59 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 09:55 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 04:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

If Trump is elected our democracy as we have known it will die.

I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Create anti-Trump sentiment?

I love how believing an insurrectionist shouldn't be President is drumming up anti-Trump sentiment in your eyes.

You look past all the illegal & immoral acts he has committed and point to things Biden has done as being worse. That's what a MAGA does.

The insurrectionist that Jack Smith didn't charge with insurrection. The damage that the Biden border policies have caused and their impact will be ongoing. The damage will be far greater to the US than Jan.6th.

We've had thousands of people coming across the border for decades. Most of them become much more patriotic Americans than the ones trying to keep them and everyone else out that doesn't look like them. You get something like 10,000 - 13,000 (reported) rapes in one year just in Texas, but just one committed by a recent immigrant becomes front page news on Fox. Still waiting for Abbott to make that number zero like he said he would.

The US doesn't have a high enough birth rate to maintain the population without quite a bit of immigration.

And who is more likely to spend money to help improve conditions in the countries that all these refugees are coming from? Biden, or Trump? Hint: it isn't Trump.

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 04:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 10:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  

If Trump is elected our democracy as we have known it will die.

I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Trump and company now know where all the guard rails are that stopped them from doing everything Trump wants. Trump also has Orban giving him pointers on how to knock the legs out from underneath our democracy.

His administration will NOT have people who are interested in protecting democracy this time. They will be sycophants that will not stand in Trump's way. I mean, look at Congress - they knuckle under to Trump at almost every turn, and they weren't even hired by him. The fact that the guard rails held last time has little to do with what would happen in a second term. Or a 3rd term if he finds a way to stay in office even longer.

Whos moving to Canada if Trump wins?

(03-05-2024 04:18 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  Whos moving to Canada if Trump wins?

Better question is what country is Trump fleeing to if he loses?

(03-05-2024 04:28 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 04:18 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  Whos moving to Canada if Trump wins?

Better question is what country is Trump fleeing to if he loses?

I vote Russia.

(03-05-2024 04:28 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 04:18 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  Whos moving to Canada if Trump wins?

Better question is what country is Trump fleeing to if he loses?

Russia, Hungary - Texas?

(03-05-2024 04:39 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 04:28 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 04:18 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  Whos moving to Canada if Trump wins?

Better question is what country is Trump fleeing to if he loses?

Russia, Hungary - Texas?

Ha, forgot about Texas.

(03-05-2024 03:28 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 11:06 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 09:55 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 04:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  If Trump is elected our democracy as we have known it will die.

I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Create anti-Trump sentiment?

I love how believing an insurrectionist shouldn't be President is drumming up anti-Trump sentiment in your eyes.

You look past all the illegal & immoral acts he has committed and point to things Biden has done as being worse. That's what a MAGA does.

Where have I done any of that??

I rarely talk policy or person, I’m talking political science, please play fair here.

How can you have a discussion about an election with Donald Trump involved and not talk person?

You do it because you want everybody to ignore all of the unlawful and unethical behavior he has been involved in. It normalizes the bad behavior that this country should never allow.

Trying to have a traditional political science debate while Donald Trump is still involved is impossible & I'll continue to call people out for allowing this traitor to be treated like a normal politician until he's gone. If you vote for him, you are supporting the MAGA movement and are a MAGA.

You create truths to fit your preconceived narrative. That’s sad. You don’t even know me, nor my voting history.
I use to enjoy our conversations about hockey, but I don’t think I can continue around here. I’ll let the echo chamber eat another victim I guess.

I’m sorry you’ve fallen so far so fast.

(03-06-2024 05:56 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 03:28 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 11:06 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 09:55 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Create anti-Trump sentiment?

I love how believing an insurrectionist shouldn't be President is drumming up anti-Trump sentiment in your eyes.

You look past all the illegal & immoral acts he has committed and point to things Biden has done as being worse. That's what a MAGA does.

Where have I done any of that??

I rarely talk policy or person, I’m talking political science, please play fair here.

How can you have a discussion about an election with Donald Trump involved and not talk person?

You do it because you want everybody to ignore all of the unlawful and unethical behavior he has been involved in. It normalizes the bad behavior that this country should never allow.

Trying to have a traditional political science debate while Donald Trump is still involved is impossible & I'll continue to call people out for allowing this traitor to be treated like a normal politician until he's gone. If you vote for him, you are supporting the MAGA movement and are a MAGA.

You create truths to fit your preconceived narrative. That’s sad. You don’t even know me, nor my voting history.
I use to enjoy our conversations about hockey, but I don’t think I can continue around here. I’ll let the echo chamber eat another victim I guess.

I’m sorry you’ve fallen so far so fast.

The irony of a Trump supporter telling me I create truths to fit my narrative is hilarious. If this forum has run off the MAGAs, oh well.

I’ll retract my characterizations of you if you tell me you won’t be voting for Donald Trump in the next election.

(03-05-2024 03:44 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-05-2024 05:46 AM)Doo Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 04:27 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-04-2024 10:34 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  

If Trump is elected our democracy as we have known it will die.

I struggle when I hear this kid of rhetoric. I don’t see this as a winning strategy. Certainly a majority of Americans don’t feel this way. We’ve already had a Trump presidency, and it didn’t end. This seems very 2016, and it didn’t win then either.

The worst thing 2020 did politically for the never Trump mindset is give inaccurate confirmation bias. Trump don’t lose because of anti-Trump sentiment winning out, he lost be cause Covid totally upended the nation (and world) and people were scared. Without which Trump likely wins by 7-8 points.

I’ll scream until the cows come home that Dems are in a much harder position to win that the last two elections. They can’t create more anti-Trump sentiment, people have made up their minds on the man, and they have to run an 80+ year old with a 4 year record that most Americans see as less successful than his opponent (fair or not).

If the only strategy now is to scream about how bad Trump is, get ready to do it for 4 more years.

Trump and company now know where all the guard rails are that stopped them from doing everything Trump wants. Trump also has Orban giving him pointers on how to knock the legs out from underneath our democracy.

His administration will NOT have people who are interested in protecting democracy this time. They will be sycophants that will not stand in Trump's way. I mean, look at Congress - they knuckle under to Trump at almost every turn, and they weren't even hired by him. The fact that the guard rails held last time has little to do with what would happen in a second term. Or a 3rd term if he finds a way to stay in office even longer.

Also, Sarah Matthews said almost entirely the same thing just recently, after having worked for Trump, and with people like Mattis who were among the guardrails in the 1st term.

8:09 "(Trump) can stand on the front steps of the White House and commit murder, and I'm with him."

8:15 "If (Trump) wants to be dictator, so be it."

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/...0376712237

The constant 1930s Europe vibes are chilling.

{And Jon Stewart is a national treasure, btw}