(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

Fact is, the only denominations holding their own are the conservative evangelical ones and the non-denominational mega churches.

(04-08-2024 10:30 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 10:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  There is no better symbolic messenger for the hollowed out, politics-1st evangelical church than a thrice married, bible hawking agnostic with a fake spray tan.

Oh ye of little faith. Most of the people God has used through the years were less than perfect. God called David, an adulter, a man after his own heart. Paul, whose name was Saul, persecuted Christians, before his conversion to Christianity.

In no way am I implying that Trump is being used by God. I know some who believe that though. I only mentioned the imperfect servants of Our Lord to illustrate how God has used broken people.

I believe that's were many in the secular world fail to understand what it means to be a Christian. It doesn't mean you're perfect, it means you're forgiven.

Make no mistake THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN FOR A REASON.

And, when you think no one is watching guess what someone is always watching whether or not you know it or not

(04-08-2024 12:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 08:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  And to the OP: Hooey! Trump's impact upon the Church is NADA!

I doubt this 100%. He has had an impact on our families...and most of society. He's one of the most, if not THEE most, divisive political figures in my lifetime.

There's no way the church has been immune to this. I know of at least a couple people who left my church due to the politics of trump and its impact on our congregation and pastors.

You unmitigated FOOL!!!!

No one has damaged the family unit like those you suck the tit of propaganda from called Progressives. They are in no shape or form Christians nor do they pretend to be.

They despise everything about the family unit and are at war with it and will only be satisfied when it is destroyed.

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Just so you can get a real view, I’ll do my best. Christians only worship one man. One who lived sinless, died and was resurrected by the Lord God over two thousand years ago. Is that easy enough to understand?

(04-08-2024 05:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 10:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  There is no better symbolic messenger for the hollowed out, politics-1st evangelical church than a thrice married, bible hawking agnostic with a fake spray tan.

...and yet you would rather vote for the one who showered with his teenage daughter. How grand of you. Hypocritical to the max. Not only that went swimming nude in front of female SS agents...an exhibitionist. Oh, as for the wives, didn't he, Ol' Foggy dump his wife for the doctor? I'm not sure on this so take that for what it's worth. What I'm trying to impress on you as that you are grasping at straws on a merry-go-'round.

As someone who wouldn't know about forgiveness because you don't show it in your posts, people change. I know I did (change) and Trump didn't have the blackness that I had in my soul but God forgives, I'm testimony to that.

Not to mention his idol not only grabbed and penetrated with his fingers a subordinates puzzy., but then persecuted her to the point she moved out of the country.

(04-08-2024 09:31 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 05:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 10:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  There is no better symbolic messenger for the hollowed out, politics-1st evangelical church than a thrice married, bible hawking agnostic with a fake spray tan.

...and yet you would rather vote for the one who showered with his teenage daughter. How grand of you. Hypocritical to the max. Not only that went swimming nude in front of female SS agents...an exhibitionist. Oh, as for the wives, didn't he, Ol' Foggy dump his wife for the doctor? I'm not sure on this so take that for what it's worth. What I'm trying to impress on you as that you are grasping at straws on a merry-go-'round.

As someone who wouldn't know about forgiveness because you don't show it in your posts, people change. I know I did (change) and Trump didn't have the blackness that I had in my soul but God forgives, I'm testimony to that.

Not to mention his idol not only grabbed and penetrated with his fingers a subordinates puzzy., but then persecuted her to the point she moved out of the country.

Where did she defect?

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

but but but muh muh muh tax avoidance...

on the flip side, you'd be sickened how our 20+yr father Tommy has played the long game in the 'burg...

#hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@moreShiteThanIcanFlush

(04-08-2024 10:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

but but but muh muh muh tax avoidance...

on the flip side, you'd be sickened how our 20+yr father Tommy has played the long game in the 'burg...

#hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@moreShiteThanIcanFlush

Want to know how the prog filth infiltrated the major denominations? The same way the leftists infiltrate universities. With Universities part of the AAU formula is Ivy League professors. With the seminaries at Harvard, Yale and Princeton they produce the professors for the seminaries to be recognized academically. Sound familiar? By rankings being based on Ivy faculty they force everyone who wants to play the AAU or academic ranking game to get the rotten apples from the same few trees. There is no diversity there.

Our enemies don't have to control very much at all to spread the disease. And Corporate money makes it all happen.

(04-08-2024 07:29 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Link

Quote:Donald Trump, a 77-year-old Bible salesman from Palm Beach, Florida, has emerged as the nation’s most prominent Christian leader. Trump is running for president as a divinely chosen champion of White Christians, promising to sanctify their grievances, destroy their perceived enemies, bolster their social status, and grant them the power to impose an anti-feminist, anti-LGBTQ, White-centric Christian nationalism from coast to coast. That Trump doesn’t attend church and has obviously never read the book that he hawks for $59.99, seems of interest exclusively to his political opponents.

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And why would the atheist care?

Exactly this.

So, don’t buy a Bible? Don’t read it?

I’ve asked this a number of times:

What about Make America Great Again shivers your jimmies?

Shouldn’t we all strive for that? What’s wrong with you people?


Course you do know that was posited by Ronaldus Maximus AND Slick Willy a few years later.

Your complaint is specifically what?

Clown show from the clown brigade.

Sad.



I know

(04-08-2024 07:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  WTF?

I'd be really, really interested in seeing or hearing ANY objective evidence to support any of the wild and crazy allegations in the article quoted in the OP.

This is classic Goebbels. Get the lie out there, the bigger the better, and repeat it often enough until it becomes true.

And if anybody wants to trash me for making Nazi comparisons, my only response is if that's the truth, then I have to say it.

The irony of this post after dozens of election denier threads and overt pro Russian propaganda threads.

Spin Room is one step above 4Chan and THIS is the thread you decide to compare to Nazi propaganda? Bless your heart.

(04-08-2024 10:48 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:29 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:13 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Link

Quote:Donald Trump, a 77-year-old Bible salesman from Palm Beach, Florida, has emerged as the nation’s most prominent Christian leader. Trump is running for president as a divinely chosen champion of White Christians, promising to sanctify their grievances, destroy their perceived enemies, bolster their social status, and grant them the power to impose an anti-feminist, anti-LGBTQ, White-centric Christian nationalism from coast to coast. That Trump doesn’t attend church and has obviously never read the book that he hawks for $59.99, seems of interest exclusively to his political opponents.

Sent from my SM-F946U using Tapatalk

And why would the atheist care?

Exactly this.

So, don’t buy a Bible? Don’t read it?

I’ve asked this a number of times:

What about Make America Great Again shivers your jimmies?

Shouldn’t we all strive for that? What’s wrong with you people?


Course you do know that was posited by Ronaldus Maximus AND Slick Willy a few years later.

Your complaint is specifically what?

Clown show from the clown brigade.

Sad.



I know

What was the tax rate when America was Great?

(04-08-2024 08:05 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 12:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 08:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  And to the OP: Hooey! Trump's impact upon the Church is NADA!

I doubt this 100%. He has had an impact on our families...and most of society. He's one of the most, if not THEE most, divisive political figures in my lifetime.

There's no way the church has been immune to this. I know of at least a couple people who left my church due to the politics of trump and its impact on our congregation and pastors.

You unmitigated FOOL!!!!

No one has damaged the family unit like those you suck the tit of propaganda from called Progressives. They are in no shape or form Christians nor do they pretend to be.

They despise everything about the family unit and are at war with it and will only be satisfied when it is destroyed.

For Christians that say their’s is a religion of love, some of you spew a lot of hate. But oh it is the “progressives” that are ruining “everything”. Look in the mirror there Sparky

(04-08-2024 07:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

Fact is, the only denominations holding their own are the conservative evangelical ones and the non-denominational mega churches.

Nope. Fact is church membership across all denominations has been on the decline for years. 2020 saw it drop below 50% of the population for the first time since the 1930s. And many who still identify as members are attending less frequently.

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

From the late 90s into the 2010s there have been a number of sex abuse scandals that have hit a number of churches. RCC was the most visible one but I recall seeing other denominations having issues too. SBC had a scandal that had articles written as recently as 2022.

Also add in that more people are witnessing the excess wealth flaunted by people like Joel Olsteen and others running these megachurches and it continues to turn people off to organized religion.

(04-09-2024 08:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

Fact is, the only denominations holding their own are the conservative evangelical ones and the non-denominational mega churches.

Nope. Fact is church membership across all denominations has been on the decline for years. 2020 saw it drop below 50% of the population for the first time since the 1930s. And many who still identify as members are attending less frequently.

Thats a lie

(04-09-2024 09:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-09-2024 08:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

Fact is, the only denominations holding their own are the conservative evangelical ones and the non-denominational mega churches.

Nope. Fact is church membership across all denominations has been on the decline for years. 2020 saw it drop below 50% of the population for the first time since the 1930s. And many who still identify as members are attending less frequently.

Thats a lie

The Truth

(04-09-2024 01:34 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(04-09-2024 09:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-09-2024 08:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

Fact is, the only denominations holding their own are the conservative evangelical ones and the non-denominational mega churches.

Nope. Fact is church membership across all denominations has been on the decline for years. 2020 saw it drop below 50% of the population for the first time since the 1930s. And many who still identify as members are attending less frequently.

Thats a lie

The Truth

Blind link to gallup
Doesnt say what you said

Lie

(04-09-2024 08:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I don't think Trump plays any role in the decline in people participating in organized religion. The single biggest reason organized religions are in decline across denominations, as well as across generations is primarily due to more information being readily available. That's pretty much it.

I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

Fact is, the only denominations holding their own are the conservative evangelical ones and the non-denominational mega churches.

Nope. Fact is church membership across all denominations has been on the decline for years. 2020 saw it drop below 50% of the population for the first time since the 1930s. And many who still identify as members are attending less frequently.

Just because you tell a lie doesn't make it true. Check the Pew studies. Catholics and mainline protestant denominations have dropped dramatically. Even the Baptists have slightly declined in the last 5-10 years after decades of growth. But the evangelical churches and non-denominational mega churches are doing quite well.

(04-09-2024 02:23 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-09-2024 08:42 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 07:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-08-2024 04:44 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I can only speak to how politics has impacted church attendance in our family & it’s been devastating. Of my 12 cousins, all children of evangelical households, only 1 attends church regularly & almost all moved away from the church because of hypocrisy & politics. Did Trump have any impact on their decision? No, they left a decade or two prior, but I have to believe the hypocritical embrace of such a flawed human has pushed many more out the door… and the numbers back it up.

Prog filth infiltrated the major denominations and are destroying them. New denominations are forming. The filth cant maintain the churchs they have taken because the money is leaving with the non filth.

I unjoined a church,turned in my letter because the filth preacher politicized every sermon. It is also happening to universities.

Toughsky shitsky

Fact is, the only denominations holding their own are the conservative evangelical ones and the non-denominational mega churches.

Nope. Fact is church membership across all denominations has been on the decline for years. 2020 saw it drop below 50% of the population for the first time since the 1930s. And many who still identify as members are attending less frequently.

Just because you tell a lie doesn't make it true. Check the Pew studies. Catholics and mainline protestant denominations have dropped dramatically. Even the Baptists have slightly declined in the last 5-10 years after decades of growth. But the evangelical churches and non-denominational mega churches are doing quite well.

I find it amusing 2020 was picked as a data point.