I think this is a smart move. It works for a few reasons:
- it says that the ACC will renegotiate the contract with ESPN
- it ties Notre Dame to the ACC for the future. There will be no B1G or Big XII for Notre Dame due to the large exit fee
- it will improve the bowl tie ins
- it certainly sets the stage for closer tie-ins with Notre Dame. For example adding games by having teams like Syracuse move their home game to Met Life Stadium to get into the New York market. Perhaps getting Maryland or Virginia Tech to move their games to Fed Ex field. With promises like that they may get Notre Dame to get full membership. By the way Syracuse made $5 million for its game at MetLife with Southern Cal.
- I agree with others that the real draw is the football team for Notre Dame and not the other sports.
- it does help Notre Dame in that their other sports have a home against like minded schools
- academically it helps Notre Dame to be associated in a conference with similar schools
- it helps Notre Dame recruit the east coast, if players know that they are going to be on TV both at home games for Notre Dame as well as away games if they are in the ACC region
- it should help the ACC teams having home games to introduce tiered pricing for the Notre Dame game.

(09-12-2012 01:30 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:04 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:01 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  I certainly hope that Presidents Barker and Barron have submitted a proposal for partial membership for Clemson and FSU with a 5 game football agreement as well.

+10000. If there isn't a road to full membership, this needs to happen right now. Especially if ND can pick and choose their 5 opponents. Why should they get to house all their other teams and get this preferential treatment if other members can't do the same?

ND press release says:

1) ND sees this as a way to remain a football independent (tends to diminish the chance there is a current agreement/commitment for later full membership);

2) ND keeps NBC contract;

3) This move is "revenue neutral" for ND.



The text is below:






Notre Dame to join Atlantic Coast Conference; football stays independent but brings 5 games annually to ACC

Dennis Brown • Date: September 12, 2012


Atlantic Coast Conference

The University of Notre Dame accepted an invitation today (Sept. 12) to become a member of the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) in all sports except football.

Most Notre Dame athletics programs have been members of the Big East Conference since 1995 after previously competing in the Midwestern Collegiate Conference, North Star Conference and as independents. Jack Swarbrick, vice president and director of athletics at Notre Dame, said the University will work with the Big East and ACC on a timetable to transfer athletic membership.

“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” Swarbrick said. “This will enable us to maintain our historic independence in football, join in the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package, and provide a new and extremely competitive home for our other sports.

“We are immensely grateful to the members of the Big East, which has been a wonderful home for us the past 17 years. We also think that the conference has a strong future under the leadership of its new commissioner, Mike Aresco.”

“The ACC was founded on the cornerstones of balancing academics, athletics and integrity,” said Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford. “Our partnership with Notre Dame only strengthens this long-standing commitment. Notre Dame enhances the league’s unique blend of public and private institutions that are international in scope. The collective alumni and fan bases cover the entire country with exceptionally strong roots up and down the Atlantic Coast. This is a terrific milestone in the evolution of the ACC and showcases tremendous solidarity and vision by our Council of Presidents.”

In addition to the athletic component, Notre Dame’s president, Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C., said the ACC offers other advantages.

“The ACC is composed of some of the most highly respected universities in the country, and we at Notre Dame look forward to joining them,” Father Jenkins said. “With a mix of institutions – many of which are also private, similar to Notre Dame in size, and committed to excellence in research and undergraduate education – the ACC is an exceptionally good fit for us academically, as well as athletically.”

Father Jenkins added: “It is our hope that, over time, we will be able to explore the possibility of academic collaboration as well as athletic competition with these outstanding universities.”

“We are committed to keeping the Atlantic Coast Conference a vibrant and competitive league dedicated to ensuring the appropriate balance of academics, athletics and integrity,” the ACC Council of Presidents said in a joint statement. “The addition of Notre Dame further strengthens the rich tradition and culture of the ACC as well as allowing for future academic collaboration and we enthusiastically welcome them into the league.”

As part of the partnership with the ACC, Notre Dame has agreed to annually play five ACC opponents in football and each conference member at least once every three years.

“This approach allows us to help promote ACC football while maintaining our traditional rivalries and a national schedule,” said Swarbrick, who added that Notre Dame will be a part of the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package.

The move to the ACC does not affect Notre Dame’s longstanding partnership with NBC Sports. The change in affiliation is “essentially revenue neutral,” Swarbrick said. “Financial implications were not a motivation.”

Current ACC members are Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest. Pittsburgh and Syracuse will join the ACC on July 1, 2013.

Among the 12 current ACC institutions, seven rank among the top 38 universities in the U.S. News & World Report survey “America’s Best Colleges” and five are members of the Association of American Universities.

ACC institutions are located in four of the top 10 most populated metropolitan areas in the country and, once Pittsburgh and Syracuse become members, will be in nine states up and down the eastern third of the United States.

Since the conference’s inception in 1953, ACC schools have captured 127 NCAA championships, including 67 in women’s competition and 60 in men’s. In addition, NCAA individual titles have gone to ACC student-athletes 145 times in men’s competition and 104 times in women’s action. Four conference schools won NCAA championships in 2011-12, and two finished in the top 10 in last year’s Learfield Sports Directors’ Cup standings.

The Notre Dame football team is among the most storied in college sports, with 11 consensus national championships, seven Heisman Trophy winners, and more All-Americans and Hall of Famers than any other program in the country.

Notre Dame’s NCAA Graduation Success Rate (GSR) figure for all student-athletes has ranked No. 1 among FBS institutions each of the last four years, and the Irish football team’s GSR has ranked No. 1 for three straight years.

Within the Big East Conference, Notre Dame has won 116 titles, more than any other school since the University’s entry in 1995-96, including 14 in women’s swimming and diving, 11 in women’s soccer, 11 in women’s tennis, nine in rowing, nine in volleyball, eight in men’s golf, and eight in men’s outdoor track and field.

Nationally, the Irish women’s soccer team and combined fencing teams won national championships in the 2010-11 academic year, the women’s basketball team has played for the national title the last two years, men’s basketball has earned three consecutive NCAA Tournament berths, and the men’s lacrosse team has played in the final four in two of the last three years.

The Notre Dame hockey team will move to Hockey East after a final season in 2012-13 in the Central Collegiate Hockey Association.

Contact: Dennis Brown, assistant vice president for public information and communications, dbrown7@nd.edu

Hail Terry and all other ACC posters.

Been away from the boards for the most this past month partly due to dealing with a family medical issue that also prevented me from going to see the SU-USC game.

Glad to see this deal get done and, of course, I will toot my own horn for thinking and posting at the end of July that the compromise to the 4-6 stand-off between the two parties would be 5 games.

I'll continue to read the boards as I get the chance, but probably will not contribute for a while still.

Best to all... and as always.


Neil

even if there was some language for future membership in football do you think they would put that out there before talking to donors/etc?

(09-12-2012 08:13 PM)JustAnotherName Wrote:  This also helps ND way more than it helps the ACC. They get guaranteed bowl games which they did NOT have before. They get to steal an ACC team's slot. They get to split ACC football revenue in games they play in at ACC schools but keep revenue in which they play at home (clarification on this?)? They keep their own SEPARATE tv deal. There is apparently no mandatory full-member date. A $50M exit fee that grows over time. What a terrific deal for the ACC.

If you really think that ND wasn't going to be able to negotiate bowls for themselves starting in 2014, then I'm not sure exactly what to say. To suggest they did this to get a chance to play in the Belk Bowl is ridiculous.

ND did this because it's stabilized their schedule and allowed them to associate with teams that they want to associate with. In other words, they didnt want to have to go to UCF or SMU or Houston or Memphis.... Bowls were well down the list of priorities.

(09-12-2012 09:22 PM)ej6687 Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 08:13 PM)JustAnotherName Wrote:  This also helps ND way more than it helps the ACC. They get guaranteed bowl games which they did NOT have before. They get to steal an ACC team's slot. They get to split ACC football revenue in games they play in at ACC schools but keep revenue in which they play at home (clarification on this?)? They keep their own SEPARATE tv deal. There is apparently no mandatory full-member date. A $50M exit fee that grows over time. What a terrific deal for the ACC.

If you really think that ND wasn't going to be able to negotiate bowls for themselves starting in 2014, then I'm not sure exactly what to say. To suggest they did this to get a chance to play in the Belk Bowl is ridiculous.

ND did this because it's stabilized their schedule and allowed them to associate with teams that they want to associate with. In other words, they didnt want to have to go to UCF or SMU or Houston or Memphis.... Bowls were well down the list of priorities.

Please tell me how ND would've just had gobs and gobs of quality bowls lining up for them.

1. The vast majority of the good bowls will be filled exclusively by the major conferences.
2. The major conferences would've never allowed ND to piggyback off their bowls.
3. ND would be able to play in the expanded "BCS" bowls but only if they qualify.

Where do they play if they don't qualify and #1 and #2 are true? I'm sure they could've lined up a few mid-tier bowls to accept them if they didn't qualify for the BCS, but I'm not at all sure they would've been NYD-worthy games or matchups. If that's the case they'd be playing in a Belk Bowl equivalent nearly annually. Having the ACC's bowl slate already lined up for them and already tiered is MUCH EASIER and MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE than their alternative.

(09-12-2012 08:51 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 01:30 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:04 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:01 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  I certainly hope that Presidents Barker and Barron have submitted a proposal for partial membership for Clemson and FSU with a 5 game football agreement as well.

+10000. If there isn't a road to full membership, this needs to happen right now. Especially if ND can pick and choose their 5 opponents. Why should they get to house all their other teams and get this preferential treatment if other members can't do the same?

ND press release says:

1) ND sees this as a way to remain a football independent (tends to diminish the chance there is a current agreement/commitment for later full membership);

2) ND keeps NBC contract;

3) This move is "revenue neutral" for ND.



The text is below:






Notre Dame to join Atlantic Coast Conference; football stays independent but brings 5 games annually to ACC

Dennis Brown • Date: September 12, 2012


Atlantic Coast Conference

The University of Notre Dame accepted an invitation today (Sept. 12) to become a member of the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) in all sports except football.

Most Notre Dame athletics programs have been members of the Big East Conference since 1995 after previously competing in the Midwestern Collegiate Conference, North Star Conference and as independents. Jack Swarbrick, vice president and director of athletics at Notre Dame, said the University will work with the Big East and ACC on a timetable to transfer athletic membership.

“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” Swarbrick said. “This will enable us to maintain our historic independence in football, join in the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package, and provide a new and extremely competitive home for our other sports.

“We are immensely grateful to the members of the Big East, which has been a wonderful home for us the past 17 years. We also think that the conference has a strong future under the leadership of its new commissioner, Mike Aresco.”

“The ACC was founded on the cornerstones of balancing academics, athletics and integrity,” said Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford. “Our partnership with Notre Dame only strengthens this long-standing commitment. Notre Dame enhances the league’s unique blend of public and private institutions that are international in scope. The collective alumni and fan bases cover the entire country with exceptionally strong roots up and down the Atlantic Coast. This is a terrific milestone in the evolution of the ACC and showcases tremendous solidarity and vision by our Council of Presidents.”

In addition to the athletic component, Notre Dame’s president, Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C., said the ACC offers other advantages.

“The ACC is composed of some of the most highly respected universities in the country, and we at Notre Dame look forward to joining them,” Father Jenkins said. “With a mix of institutions – many of which are also private, similar to Notre Dame in size, and committed to excellence in research and undergraduate education – the ACC is an exceptionally good fit for us academically, as well as athletically.”

Father Jenkins added: “It is our hope that, over time, we will be able to explore the possibility of academic collaboration as well as athletic competition with these outstanding universities.”

“We are committed to keeping the Atlantic Coast Conference a vibrant and competitive league dedicated to ensuring the appropriate balance of academics, athletics and integrity,” the ACC Council of Presidents said in a joint statement. “The addition of Notre Dame further strengthens the rich tradition and culture of the ACC as well as allowing for future academic collaboration and we enthusiastically welcome them into the league.”

As part of the partnership with the ACC, Notre Dame has agreed to annually play five ACC opponents in football and each conference member at least once every three years.

“This approach allows us to help promote ACC football while maintaining our traditional rivalries and a national schedule,” said Swarbrick, who added that Notre Dame will be a part of the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package.

The move to the ACC does not affect Notre Dame’s longstanding partnership with NBC Sports. The change in affiliation is “essentially revenue neutral,” Swarbrick said. “Financial implications were not a motivation.”

Current ACC members are Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest. Pittsburgh and Syracuse will join the ACC on July 1, 2013.

Among the 12 current ACC institutions, seven rank among the top 38 universities in the U.S. News & World Report survey “America’s Best Colleges” and five are members of the Association of American Universities.

ACC institutions are located in four of the top 10 most populated metropolitan areas in the country and, once Pittsburgh and Syracuse become members, will be in nine states up and down the eastern third of the United States.

Since the conference’s inception in 1953, ACC schools have captured 127 NCAA championships, including 67 in women’s competition and 60 in men’s. In addition, NCAA individual titles have gone to ACC student-athletes 145 times in men’s competition and 104 times in women’s action. Four conference schools won NCAA championships in 2011-12, and two finished in the top 10 in last year’s Learfield Sports Directors’ Cup standings.

The Notre Dame football team is among the most storied in college sports, with 11 consensus national championships, seven Heisman Trophy winners, and more All-Americans and Hall of Famers than any other program in the country.

Notre Dame’s NCAA Graduation Success Rate (GSR) figure for all student-athletes has ranked No. 1 among FBS institutions each of the last four years, and the Irish football team’s GSR has ranked No. 1 for three straight years.

Within the Big East Conference, Notre Dame has won 116 titles, more than any other school since the University’s entry in 1995-96, including 14 in women’s swimming and diving, 11 in women’s soccer, 11 in women’s tennis, nine in rowing, nine in volleyball, eight in men’s golf, and eight in men’s outdoor track and field.

Nationally, the Irish women’s soccer team and combined fencing teams won national championships in the 2010-11 academic year, the women’s basketball team has played for the national title the last two years, men’s basketball has earned three consecutive NCAA Tournament berths, and the men’s lacrosse team has played in the final four in two of the last three years.

The Notre Dame hockey team will move to Hockey East after a final season in 2012-13 in the Central Collegiate Hockey Association.

Contact: Dennis Brown, assistant vice president for public information and communications, dbrown7@nd.edu

Hail Terry and all other ACC posters.

Been away from the boards for the most this past month partly due to dealing with a family medical issue that also prevented me from going to see the SU-USC game.

Glad to see this deal get done and, of course, I will toot my own horn for thinking and posting at the end of July that the compromise to the 4-6 stand-off between the two parties would be 5 games.

I'll continue to read the boards as I get the chance, but probably will not contribute for a while still.

Best to all... and as always.


Neil

Thanks Neil, you have been missed.
I hope your issue is resolved soon.

Lance

(09-12-2012 08:51 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 01:30 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:04 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:01 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  I certainly hope that Presidents Barker and Barron have submitted a proposal for partial membership for Clemson and FSU with a 5 game football agreement as well.

+10000. If there isn't a road to full membership, this needs to happen right now. Especially if ND can pick and choose their 5 opponents. Why should they get to house all their other teams and get this preferential treatment if other members can't do the same?

ND press release says:

1) ND sees this as a way to remain a football independent (tends to diminish the chance there is a current agreement/commitment for later full membership);

2) ND keeps NBC contract;

3) This move is "revenue neutral" for ND.



The text is below:






Notre Dame to join Atlantic Coast Conference; football stays independent but brings 5 games annually to ACC

Dennis Brown • Date: September 12, 2012


Atlantic Coast Conference

The University of Notre Dame accepted an invitation today (Sept. 12) to become a member of the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) in all sports except football.

Most Notre Dame athletics programs have been members of the Big East Conference since 1995 after previously competing in the Midwestern Collegiate Conference, North Star Conference and as independents. Jack Swarbrick, vice president and director of athletics at Notre Dame, said the University will work with the Big East and ACC on a timetable to transfer athletic membership.

“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” Swarbrick said. “This will enable us to maintain our historic independence in football, join in the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package, and provide a new and extremely competitive home for our other sports.

“We are immensely grateful to the members of the Big East, which has been a wonderful home for us the past 17 years. We also think that the conference has a strong future under the leadership of its new commissioner, Mike Aresco.”

“The ACC was founded on the cornerstones of balancing academics, athletics and integrity,” said Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford. “Our partnership with Notre Dame only strengthens this long-standing commitment. Notre Dame enhances the league’s unique blend of public and private institutions that are international in scope. The collective alumni and fan bases cover the entire country with exceptionally strong roots up and down the Atlantic Coast. This is a terrific milestone in the evolution of the ACC and showcases tremendous solidarity and vision by our Council of Presidents.”

In addition to the athletic component, Notre Dame’s president, Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C., said the ACC offers other advantages.

“The ACC is composed of some of the most highly respected universities in the country, and we at Notre Dame look forward to joining them,” Father Jenkins said. “With a mix of institutions – many of which are also private, similar to Notre Dame in size, and committed to excellence in research and undergraduate education – the ACC is an exceptionally good fit for us academically, as well as athletically.”

Father Jenkins added: “It is our hope that, over time, we will be able to explore the possibility of academic collaboration as well as athletic competition with these outstanding universities.”

“We are committed to keeping the Atlantic Coast Conference a vibrant and competitive league dedicated to ensuring the appropriate balance of academics, athletics and integrity,” the ACC Council of Presidents said in a joint statement. “The addition of Notre Dame further strengthens the rich tradition and culture of the ACC as well as allowing for future academic collaboration and we enthusiastically welcome them into the league.”

As part of the partnership with the ACC, Notre Dame has agreed to annually play five ACC opponents in football and each conference member at least once every three years.

“This approach allows us to help promote ACC football while maintaining our traditional rivalries and a national schedule,” said Swarbrick, who added that Notre Dame will be a part of the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package.

The move to the ACC does not affect Notre Dame’s longstanding partnership with NBC Sports. The change in affiliation is “essentially revenue neutral,” Swarbrick said. “Financial implications were not a motivation.”

Current ACC members are Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest. Pittsburgh and Syracuse will join the ACC on July 1, 2013.

Among the 12 current ACC institutions, seven rank among the top 38 universities in the U.S. News & World Report survey “America’s Best Colleges” and five are members of the Association of American Universities.

ACC institutions are located in four of the top 10 most populated metropolitan areas in the country and, once Pittsburgh and Syracuse become members, will be in nine states up and down the eastern third of the United States.

Since the conference’s inception in 1953, ACC schools have captured 127 NCAA championships, including 67 in women’s competition and 60 in men’s. In addition, NCAA individual titles have gone to ACC student-athletes 145 times in men’s competition and 104 times in women’s action. Four conference schools won NCAA championships in 2011-12, and two finished in the top 10 in last year’s Learfield Sports Directors’ Cup standings.

The Notre Dame football team is among the most storied in college sports, with 11 consensus national championships, seven Heisman Trophy winners, and more All-Americans and Hall of Famers than any other program in the country.

Notre Dame’s NCAA Graduation Success Rate (GSR) figure for all student-athletes has ranked No. 1 among FBS institutions each of the last four years, and the Irish football team’s GSR has ranked No. 1 for three straight years.

Within the Big East Conference, Notre Dame has won 116 titles, more than any other school since the University’s entry in 1995-96, including 14 in women’s swimming and diving, 11 in women’s soccer, 11 in women’s tennis, nine in rowing, nine in volleyball, eight in men’s golf, and eight in men’s outdoor track and field.

Nationally, the Irish women’s soccer team and combined fencing teams won national championships in the 2010-11 academic year, the women’s basketball team has played for the national title the last two years, men’s basketball has earned three consecutive NCAA Tournament berths, and the men’s lacrosse team has played in the final four in two of the last three years.

The Notre Dame hockey team will move to Hockey East after a final season in 2012-13 in the Central Collegiate Hockey Association.

Contact: Dennis Brown, assistant vice president for public information and communications, dbrown7@nd.edu

Hail Terry and all other ACC posters.

Been away from the boards for the most this past month partly due to dealing with a family medical issue that also prevented me from going to see the SU-USC game.

Glad to see this deal get done and, of course, I will toot my own horn for thinking and posting at the end of July that the compromise to the 4-6 stand-off between the two parties would be 5 games.

I'll continue to read the boards as I get the chance, but probably will not contribute for a while still.

Best to all... and as always.


Neil

Neil, I hope everything works out with your family medical issues. I was just wondering a few days ago why we have not heard from you in a while.

Me too. I was going to post something asking about you as well.

I hope things turn out well with the family medical issue .