(01-15-2016 06:15 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 06:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  One down three to go. Any other schools who would like to leave the conference?

1,634.5 miles away played only 4 times in football and not since 2010. Marshall and UTEP might as well not be in the same conference.
Make more spend less in a regionally tight conference with old friends. Its worth looking into with UMass leaving.

I completely understand every university has to look out for their best interest. It's crazy that we haven't played each other in football for six years now.

I think a lot of fans are overreacting. The average attendance for football is around 20,000 give or take. There are six home games. Charge an extra $5 per ticket and any school can easily make up the difference in tv revenue. It's not official yet we could end up with a little more money closer to the 750-800k range. It's not forever. In a few years we can renegotiate the deal and hopefully by then we eclipse the one million mark.

Until then I'll continue doing my small part to help out. I always have a CUSA game on tv even if I'm not watching it just to give a little extra ratings boost. If we all do it for each other we might get better tv ratings and get a better tv deal.

(01-15-2016 06:21 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 05:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 04:32 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 02:18 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  This thread is HILARIOUS! Does the OP poster speak for most Marshall fans or just the ones at the asylum? Trust me, having been to WV, CUSA-West teams in Texas and LA have a more difficult time traveling to "CUSA Bellcow Marshall" than the other way around.

Gosh, if you aspire to be in the MAC, who are we to stop you. lol

He's in the very extreme minority.....trust me, we are not taking a step back to a conference that is not "forward thinking"....

That being said....if there is ever a CUSA split and a few select Mac schools want to be part of a new Eastern Conference then I could see that possibly happening down the road.

that's plausible....so many options I could see happening....

regardless how this plays out, I only see another round of dog-eat-dog coming to our neighborhood.....I would like to hear something out of our AD's mouth 'stat' along with the commissioner.....

"silent but deadly" has taken on a new meaning from what I remember in the third grade

Agreed. Here in a couple weeks when CUSA meet for their annual spring meetings multiple scenarios will be laid out for consideration. Dont be surprised if CUSA considers doing what some would consider unconventional......expanding to 16.

that's ironically funny inside my brain....I've thought about that and creating two different 'businesses' within a single construct and beg the ncaa to come after my arse....

the lawyer wannabee side of me is what I want hear about in short fashion from the leadership...

we are going to find out quickly how big our commish' balls are...

all I see in silence is fail at the g5 level....

I hope I am so wrong about 'her'....

(01-15-2016 06:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 06:21 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 05:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 04:32 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 02:18 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  This thread is HILARIOUS! Does the OP poster speak for most Marshall fans or just the ones at the asylum? Trust me, having been to WV, CUSA-West teams in Texas and LA have a more difficult time traveling to "CUSA Bellcow Marshall" than the other way around.

Gosh, if you aspire to be in the MAC, who are we to stop you. lol

He's in the very extreme minority.....trust me, we are not taking a step back to a conference that is not "forward thinking"....

That being said....if there is ever a CUSA split and a few select Mac schools want to be part of a new Eastern Conference then I could see that possibly happening down the road.

that's plausible....so many options I could see happening....

regardless how this plays out, I only see another round of dog-eat-dog coming to our neighborhood.....I would like to hear something out of our AD's mouth 'stat' along with the commissioner.....

"silent but deadly" has taken on a new meaning from what I remember in the third grade

Agreed. Here in a couple weeks when CUSA meet for their annual spring meetings multiple scenarios will be laid out for consideration. Dont be surprised if CUSA considers doing what some would consider unconventional......expanding to 16.

that's ironically funny inside my brain....I've thought about that and creating two different 'businesses' within a single construct and beg the ncaa to come after my arse....

the lawyer wannabee side of me is what I want hear about in short fashion from the leadership...

we are going to find out quickly how big our commish' balls are...

all I see in silence is fail at the g5 level....

I hope I am so wrong about 'her'....

The idea of going to 16 centers around reduced travel. If the cost savings are there and the numbers lineup, it would not surprise me to see us go to a 16 team league.

(01-15-2016 07:07 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 06:32 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 06:21 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 05:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 04:32 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  He's in the very extreme minority.....trust me, we are not taking a step back to a conference that is not "forward thinking"....

That being said....if there is ever a CUSA split and a few select Mac schools want to be part of a new Eastern Conference then I could see that possibly happening down the road.

that's plausible....so many options I could see happening....

regardless how this plays out, I only see another round of dog-eat-dog coming to our neighborhood.....I would like to hear something out of our AD's mouth 'stat' along with the commissioner.....

"silent but deadly" has taken on a new meaning from what I remember in the third grade

Agreed. Here in a couple weeks when CUSA meet for their annual spring meetings multiple scenarios will be laid out for consideration. Dont be surprised if CUSA considers doing what some would consider unconventional......expanding to 16.

that's ironically funny inside my brain....I've thought about that and creating two different 'businesses' within a single construct and beg the ncaa to come after my arse....

the lawyer wannabee side of me is what I want hear about in short fashion from the leadership...

we are going to find out quickly how big our commish' balls are...

all I see in silence is fail at the g5 level....

I hope I am so wrong about 'her'....

The idea of going to 16 centers around reduced travel. If the cost savings are there and the numbers lineup, it would not surprise me to see us go to a 16 team league.

you just tapped into the reason I still like the mwc merger....

once again......sooooooooooooo many options just became available....

After taking a significant loss in TV revenue expanding to 16 and taking on more mouths to feed would be the CUSA thing to do. Maybe WVUP can start up some sports teams. Expand into the Parkersburg-Marietta market and add a close regional rival...ok that was unconstructive trash talk.

OK people look before you leap and start a dumb argument with "IDIOT WVU FAN --- polkhigh". Just take a look at who he roots for. The WVU IDIOT has been on here since July 15 and Ive never seen him say anything good about Marshall, the coaches, etc. He and his rhetoric are so obvious its not funny.

IGNORE HIM... He craves attention.

(01-15-2016 04:33 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 04:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 02:11 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 10:45 AM)Niner National Wrote:  And what are you going to do with the rest of your sports? Marshall's performance in non-revenue sports is abysmal.

Really, what school made the CUSA soccer championship in both men and Women. VBall hasn't had a losing record since Mitch Jacobs has been in Huntington (Jacobs hired in 2003). Marshall tennis is always strong and in the last 2 years John Mercer has signed 2 4 star and 2 5 star girls. They also start the season this year ranked 42nd in the nation. Marshall just hired a new Swimming and Diving coach a year and half ago and well all he has done is have them break 12 school records last year and 3 national records.

Try again....

A question how many conference championships does Marshall have in the 11 years you played in CUSA?

I bet that number will be less than you have fingers for on one hand. Hell leave out the thumb and you might still have a finger left.

TOTAL for all Marshall sports programs?

You don't get it. Our basketball team is in Texas this week as we speak playing in front of maybe 1,000 people. Why spend money flying around the country being gone multiple days for less money and less exposure to play teams we have no history with when there's more money to be had, less expenses, and more exposure in a bus league playing teams we have a history with.

You've won 2 bowl games and 1 conference championship and beat Marshall twice. We get it, good job, proud of ya.

A move makes sense for MU. Maybe not the rest of the conference but for Marshall I think it's worth thinking about.

You are the one not getting it...your answer has zero to do with the question I asked. A question based off the reply you quoted.

So what is it? And no where did I bring Western into this but it's good to know you must have Western on your mind

(01-15-2016 07:58 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  OK people look before you leap and start a dumb argument with "IDIOT WVU FAN --- polkhigh". Just take a look at who he roots for. The WVU IDIOT has been on here since July 15 and Ive never seen him say anything good about Marshall, the coaches, etc. He and his rhetoric are so obvious its not funny.

IGNORE HIM... He craves attention.

I have in the past....but some of his arguments are valid.....

nobody knows how the dominoes are going to eventually fall....

and if there is one thing I've learned in my 50 yrs of crazy, is that there is something to learn from both sides of the coin regardless of who, how, when or where....focusing on a singularity wears/wore me out moons ago....

I completely agree with, "patience"

btw, everyone craves attention.....some need training wheels....some need someone to help remove them....

just my fodder as I slumber with the golf muted on the boob tube , hockey via internet radio is active, and I pine away on this board.....

old foggie multitasking is what I call it.....

(01-15-2016 03:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Marshall is definitely the biggest brand in the c-usa. Maybe the compromise would be giving them $1 million share of tv money. Kind of like Boise State with mwc?

LOL. That's a good joke, man. Er. You were joking right?

With all due respect to the good Marshall posters, USM has owned many of the schools that left CUSA for the American conference. I have accepted the reality of the situation and moved on. To read a post by a Marshall fan whining about wanting to be back in the MAC, the only response I have is just f'n go so I don't have to read your whining posts anymore. It really is garbage to whine on this board. So leave or STFU.

(01-15-2016 07:58 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  OK people look before you leap and start a dumb argument with "IDIOT WVU FAN --- polkhigh". Just take a look at who he roots for. The WVU IDIOT has been on here since July 15 and Ive never seen him say anything good about Marshall, the coaches, etc. He and his rhetoric are so obvious its not funny.

IGNORE HIM... He craves attention.

I'm an idiot WVU fan? Been here since August? Been watching the Herd since the 1AA years, family has ties to the building of the University its self. I got on here to have something to do durring down time at work.
Tell me where I'm wrong and what I've said bad about Doc. You can't. You super fans want to play MAC teams for every ooc game anyways get bowl eligible and say everything is dandy.
More Revenue less expenses and don't have to waste OOC games on them every year
Tell me the MAC won't pay more now, travel cost won't be less, there won't be old rivalries, you can't drive to all the games.
Every body talks about how G5's need to be more regional. Here it is, UMASS is leaving and if MU slides back in they can be in a regional G5 they have history witb and cut cost and increase revenue and exposure. Am I'm wrong? tell me. Cause that's my understanding. Straighten me out on this. Show me the folly of my ways. Offer your point of view on the subject. Do you have one or just get on your alumni high horse and name call. Do you look down on Ohio U, Toledo, Bowling Green, NIU, Miami OH,...? We came here for the money and the teams in it at the time. I was happy as hell about it. Tell me the Money is still here and the teams haven't left. I have alot of respect for USM and some of the programs but don't we need more money not less in these times? We're losing all our assistants, hell just lost the equipment manager. Has the SOS not been hammered on by everyone? Tell me your perspective how to generate more money, exposure, and increase sos, and free up ooc opportunities. It may not be the right either but it's worth discussion in the Marshall camp.
I bet when Mark Snyder was running the team in the ground you were just as happy to be tailgating. I came up durring the glory years, I want more for the Herd than you I guess.
Hey guys is my rhetoric obvious? You seen what the original poster had to say. You knew what would be talked about in here. Don't like it don't read it. Nobody forced you to take part in these off season ramblings. Marshall isn't going to the MAC. This is it. Win some games and go to a bowl in Florida every year and lose staff to schools who pay more cause MU wants to earn less and spend more in CUSA. Its what the superfans want. And because I backed the OP up with my thoughts I'm Idiot WVU fan.

(01-15-2016 09:36 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Not going back to the MAC. This is the first time i have ever said it, for rhe record. I am not a MAC troll. I have been the staunchest defender of the cusa move you will ever see and when we made much more frm TV, it made sense.

But now? MAC has better tv exposure with espn. No more worrying about finding the channel with espn3 for EVERY GAME. And the MAC will pay better.

Competition - The mac was better than cusa last year. Has schools that are established. No difference in competition.

Travel - about every MAC game is a pretty easy drive. Awesme for our fans. Not to mention the history we have with those teams. Plus we save a ton on travel that is no longer offset with greater tv revenue.

Access bowl - MAC gives us better exposure and just as good or better competition. Undefeated there or here, and we are in, or a serious contender, just the same.

Now, I know many are going to talk about tuesday night games. But really? We don't have night games hardly ever now and they are awesome to have at the joan. Attendance will not suffer as much as many would think. We play on thursday occasionally and every black friday at noon now, and thats a terrible time slot.

I am not seeing any reason to stay in CUSA. The MAC now offers more, than CUSA does, and that may be tough to hear and accept, but it is true.

Uhhhh.... No.

(01-15-2016 10:38 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:53 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:36 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Not going back to the MAC. This is the first time i have ever said it, for rhe record. I am not a MAC troll. I have been the staunchest defender of the cusa move you will ever see and when we made much more frm TV, it made sense.

But now? MAC has better tv exposure with espn. No more worrying about finding the channel with espn3 for EVERY GAME. And the MAC will pay better.

Competition - The mac was better than cusa last year. Has schools that are established. No difference in competition.

Travel - about every MAC game is a pretty easy drive. Awesme for our fans. Not to mention the history we have with those teams. Plus we save a ton on travel that is no longer offset with greater tv revenue.

Access bowl - MAC gives us better exposure and just as good or better competition. Undefeated there or here, and we are in, or a serious contender, just the same.

Now, I know many are going to talk about tuesday night games. But really? We don't have night games hardly ever now and they are awesome to have at the joan. Attendance will not suffer as much as many would think. We play on thursday occasionally and every black friday at noon now, and thats a terrible time slot.

I am not seeing any reason to stay in CUSA. The MAC now offers more, than CUSA does, and that may be tough to hear and accept, but it is true.

Damn dude....you need to chill out. CUSA is still a much better option over the Mac. Lets just wait and see what unfolds over the next couple years. Considering going back to the Mac is a bonehead move on many levels. The last thing we need to do is take a step backwards. Hell just the previous year we were the best G5 football conference in America. Just let it go and lets see how it plays out.

If Marshall doesnt go back to the MAC, or can't go to AAC, then Indy is better. CUSA can keep the money and give us a bowl tie in and the Herd can schedule Louisiana Tech and USM and see if if it could count as a conference game for them. Marshall can schedule who they want and the fans would be more interested. It was discussed on another thread Marshall probably makes $300k+ less playing ODU at home compared to Ohio U coming here, that adds up. A better schedule can make that money back. $500k isn't the end of the world but hopefully it's the final straw. Marshall loses in every way being here, from SOS to travel costs. CUSA east teams can't even give the Herd a good crowd when they play.

"I like WVU, Marshall plays easy teams." -10 year old nephew

"UAB? Who the F*** is that" -sister in law

"They got their perfect season ruined by some trash team Ive never even heard of."- co worker (and alot of others)

I liked the move to CUSA but CUSA is gone. Lets go.

So because a little kid likes WVU & a relative & some co-worker are obviously clueless wonders therefore Marshall should go back to the MAC.

So far I've read 2 pages and I've read so much nonsense my head hurts. I'll read the rest of this garbage tomo if at all. Back to the MAC??? LOL.

Wasted thread. Sorry I read...some of it

(01-16-2016 12:56 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

So because a little kid likes WVU & a relative & some co-worker are obviously clueless wonders therefore Marshall should go back to the MAC.

Make less money in a spread out conference with less exposure and use ooc games up scheduling MAC teams and go to Florida and play a bowl against yet again another MAC team while spending more money with the cost of travel just to play teams the people in the area aren't interested in.



No rebuttals yet from any of the super fans.

I know the MAC is far from great but if the new TV deal is significantly less my argument is Make more, spend less, quit wasting ooc games, play old rivals. That's what the view point is. What's yours? We've talked positive and negatives about MU in the MAC what are positives and negatives about MU in CUSA and how does the comparison weigh out?

(01-15-2016 08:19 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  With all due respect to the good Marshall posters, USM has owned many of the schools that left CUSA for the American conference. I have accepted the reality of the situation and moved on. To read a post by a Marshall fan whining about wanting to be back in the MAC, the only response I have is just f'n go so I don't have to read your whining posts anymore. It really is garbage to whine on this board. So leave or STFU.

Good post. Reading these whinny posts reminds me of LA Tech's days in the WAC. Every week some fans of WAC schools were on the WAC board telling us how much the WAC sucked, and how they were looking for a way out. Now, in this off season, we've already seen similar posts from some (but not all) fans of Marshall, Rice and UTEP whining about CUSA, and reminding us that they have other options. THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO BUILD A BRAND for the conference.

(01-16-2016 09:42 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 08:19 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  With all due respect to the good Marshall posters, USM has owned many of the schools that left CUSA for the American conference. I have accepted the reality of the situation and moved on. To read a post by a Marshall fan whining about wanting to be back in the MAC, the only response I have is just f'n go so I don't have to read your whining posts anymore. It really is garbage to whine on this board. So leave or STFU.

Good post. Reading these whinny posts reminds me of LA Tech's days in the WAC. Every week some fans of WAC schools were on the WAC board telling us how much the WAC sucked, and how they were looking for a way out. Now, in this off season, we've already seen similar posts from some (but not all) fans of Marshall, Rice and UTEP whining about CUSA, and reminding us that they have other options. THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO BUILD A BRAND for the conference.

I don't know if that's the best example to use. The WAC did suck and because of that its non existent now. So maybe the schools that complained about it were onto something. I read this board every day and I don't recall hearing UTEP fans whine about being here. There was a report that UTEP and RICE presidents wanted into the MW but I don't think it came out of nowhere from the fans on this board. We all had some small hope we would finally be going back home to our former rivals. As such we stated our support to move to the MW. Once the MW shot that idea down we all dropped it. We know we haven't had the best football team and shouldn't be demanding any moves. If we did say something that you took as whining we apologize for it.

(01-16-2016 09:08 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 12:56 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

So because a little kid likes WVU & a relative & some co-worker are obviously clueless wonders therefore Marshall should go back to the MAC.

Make less money in a spread out conference with less exposure and use ooc games up scheduling MAC teams and go to Florida and play a bowl against yet again another MAC team while spending more money with the cost of travel just to play teams the people in the area aren't interested in.



No rebuttals yet from any of the super fans.

I know the MAC is far from great but if the new TV deal is significantly less my argument is Make more, spend less, quit wasting ooc games, play old rivals. That's what the view point is. What's yours? We've talked positive and negatives about MU in the MAC what are positives and negatives about MU in CUSA and how does the comparison weigh out?

WVU fan coming on here complaining about spread out conference

Here's an idea, you don't like the conference your #2 team is in? Stick with your favorite.

Nowhere in your diatribe did you say you ACTUALLY ATTENDED Marshall. I'm from Indiana, I don't root for IU. I went to WKU, don't root for sUcK or Loserville. I live in NYC, I don't pull for Syracuse or Rutgers. You really hurt your case when you got a giant yellow and blue mountee logo next to your name.

Lol, if your sister in law doesn't know who UAB is after Marshall being in the conference for 10 years then your sister in law doesn't follow sports or follow Marshall. Who cares.